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[kendychen]

thread closed.

[denny007]

I bought last year from this seller domain wordlib.org for $800
Alleged traffic was 350/day.
However the traffic practically dismissed within 1 month.
Here is the proof: http://startseek.com/kendychen-scum.jpg
Seller later told me, I can not blame him for my bad business (bad business = buying from him). Also he told me I should do research before buying, so is my ignorance I bought domain which lost traffic so quickly.

[kendychen]

To denny007,

Did you ask about the traffic before purchase? No
Did you tell me the traffic drop after purchase? No
Did you know what's different between link traffic and typo traffic? No

You just post sold even without knowing it was link traffic.

And you want to put other buyers in this dispute but unfortunately they dont support you. I am sure you get PM from other buyers to blame for your activities. Please stop making show of yourself.

[denny007]

1.
I did not need to ask about traffic, because it was part of the thread:
http://www.dnforum.com/f116/high-traffic-domain-sale-worldlib-org-thread-74935.html
"High Traffic Domain For Sale (worldlib.org)
Domain: worldlib.org
Traffic: 350 uniques daily"

2.
You dimsissed afte the sale.

3.
I know what is different between typo traffic and link traffic. I know also what is the different between naturally evolved link traffic and artifiial link traffic (all links comming from YOUR other scrap pages).

4.
You lie, traffic was stated in the sales thread.

5.
You are wrong again, I did not get any single email from another buyers. I do not make a show, I am trying hardly avoid anyone else to loose money. I WILL follow you anywherefor sake of scam-free domain business.

[kendychen]

Dont put anything not specific to the sales in this thread. Any complaints against a seller should be directed to the mods unless you have clear evidence of a fraud taking place. You're destorying the forum. I will report your bad activities to mods.

[denny007]

Thief screaming "catch the thief !"

[kendychen]

1. Did I tell it was typo traffic and will be stable? No

2. I dismissed? I didn't get any Emails from you after your last Email on Jan 2nd.

3. The traffic stats was copied from awstats.

4. I got a PM from one of other buyer complaining about your behavior to involve him in this dispute and he didn't support your view. You got a message from him too so you remove him from this thread.

[denny007]

1.
Yes I accept that fact. I am just telling people, that for your domains is not unusual, the traffic dismiss after 1 month. Thats all - am I lying ?

2.
You dismissed from DNforum. As I got emails from other user, which bought aanother domain from you with same problem (traffic dismissed), what was the point to contacting you ? I do not like when scum laugh at me. I better write the money off. Anyway you would not give the money back, with this I am as sure as I breathe.

3.
You somehow forgot, at the start of this thread you told me "Did you ask for traffic before buy ? No". Now as I cought you lying, you are changing the subject. Point is, the traffic was artifficial from all your scrapper sites you muck up internet with. Later when you sell all the scrap sites as a domains without content, traffic dismisses. And after search engines delete the no more exisitng content from their indexes, the traffic stops totally.

4.
This user wrote me in the past several emails i.e. "... I wasted the $1300. Unfortunate there were no warnings on dnf about this at the time", I am not naming him as he wishes, but I am disappointed, he is backing out.

You are LYING again, I did not get any message from him, it was ADMINS who removed all that.

[kendychen]

1. You agree you are ignorant which made your loss.

2. You are always saying you have been scammed but the fact is you never contact me about this. You are afraid of being laughed at?? What ridiculous reason!!

3. I dont think it's the rules to specified the types of link traffic.

4. You always tried to be spokemans of other people. You guy always trying to make nosense suspicion. The actually reason that the previous thread was removed is that I put some domains with less than 30 uniques/day in the thread.

I still can be reached by Email. I dont think it's need to visit this forum when I have no domains for sale.

[denny007]

1.
Yes, I totally agree, that I wasignorant buying anything from you.
So we are just letting people know todo NOT be ignorant and do NOT buy anything from you. Otherwise they would be ignorant as I was. Thats all point, glad we can agree on that.

2.
Depends on definition on "scam". In my view it was scam, in your it was my ignorance.

3.
Well - the rules can not take care about everything. What every domainer expect, the traffic is not artificcial from links on your other scrap sites, but natural, i.e. from expired domains. But thats OK, I am ignorant that I did not expect that, I am over it for long time by now and I took my lesson. Just I am teching other people to NOT be ignorant. Thats all.

4.
You always try to change the subject. I just mentioned that another user, because in the past he wrote me several almost deperate emails. He unexpectedly backed out now - so I stopped to name him.

Well - if loosing traffic on a domain within 1 month is nonsense suspiscion, what is your definition of sense suspicion ? No traffic on second day I suppose...

5.
There is no point to email you. My purpose here is to protect other buyers from you. I have proof, You actually helped me calling me ignorant for the traffic on your domains dismissing after one month. Unless you are ready to return me lets say 6,000 RMB (I paid 6,600), email contact is pointless.

[kendychen]

3. "the traffic is not artificcial from links on your other scrap sites"? I agree worldlib.org was a scraper site before but the traffic was not from other site of mine when I sold it to you. You may do a search at Google and there are still a lot of links to this domain.

4. He doesn't support you. That's all.

5. Sure, you can choose to contact me about this or not. But it is not a good manner to put bad things not specific to the sales in a thread. You should learn the forum rules first before you shouting out like a *****. You are a rude guy to work with.

[denny007]

3.
Google some time ago took pages from old indexes back to have those zillions of pages in index. Thats all. From February until july or so there was not any single page in the Google index anymore.

4.
I have all his emails, which supports me.

5.
Thats the problem of recent "humanistic" society - a scum ignore any rules, yet the scum when it is in pain calling for "the rules" which it did not follow by itselves at first place. My motto is: no protection by rules for major rule breakers !

I just found some email I sent you, so do NOT TELL I did not complain, I did and never got any answer:

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21.1. 2005
Now I found, how you made the traffic, so either
give me complete original content of the worldlib.org
or I will hunt you down you will be ever sorry you
met me ! I will spoil all your auctions, I will let know
all admins of all boards, I will track you here in China,
Your choice. The traffic is now almost zero, I did not
have the parking on my server before so I did not
have stats (referrers etc.). Now I know you make a lot
of domains like this, including the "adlerenterprises",
I will also remind google adsense, they will NOT like
your activities, oh boy, you cheated VERY WRONG
person, trust me on that !
Denny
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So yesterday you LIED AGAIN, claiming my last email to you was about difficulty with the transfer of the domain. I know one saying: "who lies also steals".

[DomainDealer]

Dont put anything not specific to the sales in this thread. Any complaints against a seller should be directed to the mods unless you have clear evidence of a fraud taking place. You're destorying the forum. I will report your bad activities to mods.

Protecting others is bad activities ? You have a -1 rating btw !




*** Speaking of bad activities someone on this forum promised to pay me back on August / September for fraud also .... ***

[denny007]

You can make him -2 He will make You maybe neg. in exchange as he did to me (unless he is giving up and changing identity), but admins will later make it neutral as groundless. I already applied...