nissan-navara.net 17,000 uniques p/m

[ezzer72]

Hi all,

I actually posted this up once before but didn't really get anything from it, so here we go again.

The domain/site is nissan-navara.net

Its a forum/owners club dedicated to one of the Wold's best selling trucks, the Nissan Navara (of course).

Here are the traffic details;

http://www.nissan-navara.net/navara.zip

As you will see it has averaged almost 17,000 uniques per month since September when it was launched (August 31st to be precise) and is now looking like a 20,000+ site.

I have Adsense on there and achieved my record month in January $213 (screenshot can be supplied), it is easily doing over $100 each month anyway ($63 this month so far, only the 11th), probably $120 - $170 would be a fair way to rate it, this said people are joining every day.

Problem is this though - as it is an active forum, I don't want to destroy it and have it converted into a parking page or similar - it works well because the members find something useful in the adsense ads.

I think the best thing would be for me to supply the buyer with both admin rights to the forum, and full FTP access so that your adsense codes can replace mine etc.

I am offering it for sale as I need to raise some cash now, so obviously a few hundred dollars won't really help, I think the minimum I could consider would be $XXXX.

If anyone is interested in coming on board, please let me know, ideally here in the thread.

Thanks,

Eric.

[paulc]

Hi Eric

How much work is involved in the daily up keep, and how much spam do you get daily on the forum?

Thanks..

[dnjackal]

Are these 17K uniques type-ins, or do you have alot of inbound links? Where does the traffic come from?

[ezzer72]

Hi Eric

How much work is involved in the daily up keep, and how much spam do you get daily on the forum?

Thanks..

Hi,

There would be no work required at all - I am happy to continue to moderate the forum as it is a subject that interests me to a degree, and there are two other mods appointed also that do a lot of the stuff on there - all of this said, it could amost run without mods, there is a pretty good 'atmosphere' on the forum.

Regarding spammers, funny you should ask - they have just recently began to make an appearance , however I have now just changed the 'join up' rules slightly so that a code has to be entered, this should of course keep the bots away.

Hope this helps, thanks for your interest,

Eric.

Are these 17K uniques type-ins, or do you have alot of inbound links? Where does the traffic come from?

Hi,

Not 100% sure sorry (I am not a big time domain dealer), however I can say that the site ranks reasonably high on Google (page 2 usually for most relevant search terms 'navara forum' for example), and that there are links on other car and 4x4 clubs (not paid ones, just links that members have put in whilst discussing the forum, i.e. I am also a member of nissan-navara.net etc. etc.)

Also of course, please don't forget the forum has almost 900 members (increasing all of the time) many of whom return regularly, and of course will continue to click on Adsense ads as there seems to be a lot of variety on this subject, not the same old ones day in, day out.

Hope this helps, sorry I can't be more conclusive,

Eric.

[pertosda]

What about bandwidth and disk space?

Also, the new owner will have to move all the phpBB data to a new server, right? Will you support the process?

Finally, do you have a BIN price in mind?

Thanks!

PS: How did you manage it to make the forum work so well since the very first day?

[biggedon]

can you repost the traffic stats link, without it being in a zip file?

Thanks

[ezzer72]

What about bandwidth and disk space?

Also, the new owner will have to move all the phpBB data to a new server, right? Will you support the process?

Finally, do you have a BIN price in mind?

Thanks!

PS: How did you manage it to make the forum work so well since the very first day?

Hi,

It uses up very little disk space, bandwidth can be fairly high but very rarely exceeds my allowance - my plan was to continue Hosting the site, as I have said before it is a genuine interest of mine, what I am selling really is rights to the domain name and the attached adsense revenue, I think that transferring the phpBB stuff would be to big a task and too risky, i.e. if it goes wrong the whole thing may be lost? I may be wrong about this, but I am a believer in keeping things as simple as possible.

I don't have a BIN as I am too inexperienced in domain trading to reach a figure, however, adsense revenue is likely to exceed $2000 per year so I guess it needs to be a fairly decent price.

With regards getting the forum busy straight away, firstly I did use adwords BUT ONLY FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS, and I then used another very cheap advertising method for a few months (costing about $4 per month) but that is no longer neccessary for continued growth - this second method I cannot reveal as I may use it for another site one day and don't want to 'burst the bubble' as it were.

Hope this helps, regards,

Eric.

can you repost the traffic stats link, without it being in a zip file?

Thanks

Hi, no problems, here are the links to the stats;

http://www.nissan-navara.net/stats1.jpg

http://www.nissan-navara.net/stats2.jpg

http://www.nissan-navara.net/stats3.jpg

http://www.nissan-navara.net/stats4.jpg

Its in four parts to demonstrate 2006 & 2007 (upper screenshot and lower screenshot).

Regards,

Eric.

[Abbadox]

Please update current high bid and any bin price? Thanks!

[ezzer72]

Hi,

Incredibly (?!) I have not had any bids at all - as I have already said I am pretty inexperienced in trading domains on here, only done one 'deal' previously, but I look at other threads talking about less busy/lower revenue sites and the bids seem to come flooding in?

Anyway, I am open to offers and would appreciate some, really need to raise some cash.

Thanks for your time,

Eric.

[KMEDIA]

Please PM/post Adsense screenshots, referrer stats and BIN if avaiable.

Im interested...

EDIT: Any TM inquiries?

[dcristo]

If you need a broker for this site, contact me via PM.

[WWW.ALLTHINGS.TV]

Please PM/post Adsense screenshots, referrer stats and BIN if avaiable.

Im interested...

EDIT: Any TM inquiries?

You think??!!

[Acro]

I'm not an Adsense expert, but having a "donate via Paypal" button that close to the Google ads *might* be considered an incentive to click on the ads themselves. Better move it than risk losing the Adsense revenue.

[dcristo]

Nah that's fine Acro. You run into issues where the ads look like navigation so the visitor is fooled into thinking it's just another link on the site

[ezzer72]

Please PM/post Adsense screenshots, referrer stats and BIN if avaiable.

Im interested...

EDIT: Any TM inquiries?

Hi,

Adsense screenshots are here;

http://www.nissan-navara.net/adsense.zip

I only added Adsense to the site on September 10th, this is why the first 10 days or so read $0.

I will get the referrer stats sorted later, in a hurry right now (got to leave home for the 'day job' )

Still no BIN as previously explained, sorry.

No TM issues - IMO manufacturers (Nissan in this instance) are quite happy for owners clubs/forums to exist relating to there products, there is a similar forum to this for just about every type of vehicle in the world.

Hope this helps,

Eric.

I forgot to say, there is also extra adense revenue from the 'Google Search' boxes on the site not included in the stats, not a fortune, but perhaps another $50 or so over the same period.

[b.a]

can you post the referrer stats?

[ezzer72]

Hi all,

Okay, there are two people that have asked me for referrer info now, but despite already supplying unique visitor and adsense revenue info, I am yet to receive a single bid.

I can provide the referrer info no problem at all, however I am feeling a little like everyone just wants to pry into this domain/site without any real interest in buying.

I hope no one takes offence, but I will supply the referrer info to anyone who makes a 'subject to referrer info being satisfactory' (no reason why it shouldn't be, by the way) offer, but not just so that any hobbyists out there can take a look with no intention of buying.

Again, my apologies to anyone that this may offend, but I am sure that any genuine interested parties will understand. May I also say that there is nothing sinister, or nothing being hidden, I just feel its time to get down to business here rather than provide light entertainment

Best wishes,

Eric.

[WWW.ALLTHINGS.TV]

Hi,


No TM issues - IMO manufacturers (Nissan in this instance) are quite happy for owners clubs/forums to exist relating to there products, there is a similar forum to this for just about every type of vehicle in the world.

I may be interested, but the problem is TM....Your IMO makes sense, but relying on an opinion and being left at the mercy of Nissan at any time issuing a C&D cuts deep into your payout potenntial..If you were to get a letter from Nissan that said - sure we have no problem - that would be a different situation altogether......

And then I would be able to make you an offer with confidence

[ezzer72]

I understand and appreciate your comments regarding TM, but its not going to be an issue.

Almost every forum on the net is related to a brand or individual product, whether its cars, camcorders, PDA's, motorcycles whatever - as an example, here is a Google search on 'Volkswagen Golf forum' (Golf is the European name for the Rabbit for anyone who may not have known);

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vol...f&start=0&sa=N

As you will see, there are hundreds (or maybe thousands), all buzzing away happily and not financially draining Volkswagen.

If the very worst happened (but it won't), all users could be e-mailed from the database with a new URL, and within a very short time they would all be discussing the new name for the site all over the web (just as they have done this time). Again I must stress, this is worst case scenario.

The site in no way imitates Nissan's corporate identity (except for maybe the logo, this could be changed easily enough if required), and if anything promotes sales of their trucks, it certainly doesn't prevent them - I think that any manufacturer is likely to be delighted that people are talking about their product as a pastime.

Regards,

Eric.

Hi again,

Many people are asking me for a BIN and as I have said already, I am not really 'qualified' to calculate one.

This said, I feel that if I don't put any figures in the thread, I will remain in the position of receiving no offers

So, for starters, how does this sound?

Starting bid $1500 (minimum one years revenue, $125 per month, very likely to earn a lot more), and a BIN of $5250 (3.5 years revenue, again, a conservative estimate, the site earned $213 in January and is on target for over $170 this month).

I may be way out of line with this, on the other hand, I may be about to give away a true bargain - I sincereley don't know...

Hope to hear from some of you guys soon,

Eric.

HELP!!

I don't know what I can do here guys;

I am offering a busy site that earns pretty good revenue, firstly I asked for any offers, then I was 'pushed' into coming up with a BIN etc. and not one single offer before or after the BIN.

Have I said something wrong?

Please can anyone help me to get a sale?

Thanks,

Eric.

[ezzer72]

Site is still for sale, (high offer $2000 so far).

BIN is $4000, offers over $2000 will be taken seriously.

This site makes pretty serious Adsense revenue - it is an INVESTMENT not a purchase.

I'm sure every day on here people are paying more for domains/sites with lower revenue, please consider this one seriously.

Thanks guys,

Eric.

Oh, perhaps I should have said, the site has (IMO) some pretty impressive figures on Alexa too;

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...san-navara.net

The 128,000 busiest site in the U.S. and the 790,000 in the World - i'm having second thoughts about the low BIN...

(you will also notice elsewhere on the Alexa page that traffic is INCREASING, not on the decline)