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    bid, can i open this thread again?

    iam getting some good google hits for www.readersheds.co.uk, great UK ones anyway what can i go to improve them?

    is adwords anygood, for me?

    as all of the "products" i have are affliate anyway.

    cheers
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    to be honest i dont think adwords would be worth it as you are not selling a product directly - you are merely advertising other sites which arent neccessary related to your site

    personally id develop a few other small sites and drive traffic towards your shed site
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    fonz i assume by that comment you have not been to the shed shop on readersheds.co.uk

    http://www.readersheds.co.uk/readers...WOSNAMES=Sheds



    oh yes thanks for your valid wossnames.. but you know me stubbon like that last nail in the coffin..

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    doh - didnt even see that - i was looking at the argos ads etc on the home page

    what i would do is try it for 2 weeks or something and see the return you get - if it works out being profitable then keep it going
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    thanks fonz sorry for being a C%nt in my reply... ;D

    i love you really man, (as the americons say)


    ta wilco

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    lol
    no worries
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    maybe i should look at my advert placement, and make it more text based in the news, and features ....

    i don't know, iam in the middle of a spinning shed, thats all i SEE!

    the main keyword that people serach and they end up findinggthe site, changes week on weel, this week they have been mostly typing in....

    google:
    sheds uk
    shed plans uk
    underpants cardiff
    STORAGESHED
    bare bottom


    yahoo:

    naked christine hamilton
    tanya robinson

    but pie safe plans brings me in a few every week

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    Originally posted by unclewilco
    bid, can i open this thread again?

    iam getting some good google hits for www.readersheds.co.uk, great UK ones anyway what can i go to improve them?

    is adwords anygood, for me?

    as all of the "products" i have are affliate anyway.

    cheers
    wilco
    I really like your shed site unclewilco,

    The main reason for this thread was simply to make a point that getting into Google is easy and free..you dont need to pay $65 to be listed.

    Ranking is everyones "problem".. the absolute best thing you can do is first clean up the clutter.. all the insignificant ads all over the place, just do a little house cleaning on the site.. your "sheds" are starting to get lost amoungst your advertisements..

    People smile when they understand that your site is REALLY about "sheds" .. how people need and love those sheds.. they take on personalities.

    I hope you really get back to that part of it.. you'll pick up a lot more traffic simply from word of mouth.

    I would find a couple more keywords that you would like to be found for

    68154 storage shed
    35781 shed
    11915 garden shed
    9429 shed plan
    4699 shed plan free
    4634 tuff shed
    4608 build a shed
    4205 building a shed
    3999 storage shed plan
    3786 shed kit

    ..

    Consider this..google takes into account your domain, your title tag, your content... (when comparing to actaul search term)

    how many of the above keywords I listed above are you being found on? little /none ?

    I would fix your title tag

    "Readersheds.co.uk - where you share your shed - site for sheddies on the web - shedtalk, shedshop, shedfacts"

    For one thing it is too long.. shorten it up and to something that first of all peple are searching for :

    Title= Storage Sheds , Sheds and shed kits

    Then make sure you also use those 3 "keywords/phrases" also in your content/ make a few paragraphs near the top.. close to where the bot first starts "reading" ... you want your customers as well as the bots to understand before anything ewlse..before the cool jokes, before the advertisements before the pictures. your site is about Storage Sheds.. after that is established then you can give the site it's "personality"


    So change your tags and content to represnt what people,are actually searching for ..use a keyword density tool similiar to this..

    http://www.keyworddensity.com/

    I'm not going to go into to much detail, but the general idea is that for the keywords you want to be found on should represent arond 15% or so.. if you keyword stuff..you'll be penalized/.. if you dont include enough keywords (density wise) then you wont rank as well.


    Doing this alone will move you up in ranking.. how high ? depends on your competition.. for "storgage sheds" their are only 143,00 pages of competition.. I think you can rank on first page fairly easy.. I see the first 3 sites have arond 35 back links.... but by the time you get to the bottom of the first page thoise sites only have a few backlinks..

    So that would be your next step.. find 5 other sites that will link to you in addition to cleaning up your title tag , fixing your text content with the proper keywords and density of those keywords.

    Then add a few links..
    in the next update after you finish that you will be listed on the front page under the search keyword "storage sheds"

    Good Luck..

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    thanks for the well thought out reply,

    iam looking at redesigng the site very soon, with new "proper "features, and a lot less ads.. as you say i should get back to the core of the site which is "sharing your shed"..


    thanks for yor time and patience..

    maybe i will take this to plat section when i have made my chnages.

    all the best wilco
    Last edited by unclewilco; 04-04-2003 at 01:24 AM.

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    OK bidawinner. I got one for you. Thanks in advance for your help. How would you improve 50gamesites.com ranking? There is not really any content nor should there be (for this type of site.)

    Razzoid

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    Originally posted by razzoid
    OK bidawinner. I got one for you. Thanks in advance for your help. How would you improve 50gamesites.com ranking? There is not really any content nor should there be (for this type of site.)

    Razzoid

    Your comment that their isnt any content nor should be (for this type of site) ..is what's hurting your ranking more than anything else..

    ...I would even tend to agree with you.. you should be able to puty whatever you want on your website..all images, frame pages , flash, javascript .. whatever

    But the probelm is if you WANT to rank well on google the easiest way is to "feed" googlebot what googlebot is looking for.. content, textual content .

    But I can see you are the stubborn kind.. you can still rank but it will take LINKS.. lots and lots of links.. The single most important thing along with content is links for google ranking...

    Do this for me, your main search term should "game sites"

    Look at the results for "Game sites" on google..the second result is a site called http://www.top100gamesites.com/ very similiar as to what you want to do.

    What is the single largest thing this site has that yours dosent ?

    Now go to http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/

    enter http://www.top100gamesites.com/

    Thats what it will take...



    Again this thread was not started to help everyone with ranking..it was in response to someone trying to sell DNforums members "indexing" in google for $65 ..which most understand is ridiculas ..to be indexed in google requires ONLY one thing.. at least ONE link from another site and google will find you..if they dont simply submit
    http://www.google.com/addurl.html

    As far as ranking Google tells it pretty much the way it is..


    Google Guidlines...
    http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

    http://www.google.com/webmasters/

    Good Luck...

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    I am having trouble getting http://www.ihatedell.net listed.
    Check it and see what I need to do.

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    Originally posted by xecutech
    I am having trouble getting http://www.ihatedell.net listed.
    Check it and see what I need to do.
    ROFLMAO!!!
    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Sir Francis Bacon

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