I've finally decided to attempt developing. BUT need help with something!

[Andrew Shaw]

I've finally decided to attempt developing.

I just registered with an account at Jumpline.com, its easier to use then I thought it would be. However, after having my "test site" up for a few days that I developed in a program that I am working with called "BlueVoda" I am seeing this error... "http://www.shawswholesale.com" (trust me there is nothing to be advertised here )

I am brand new to this as I have already said.. and have been toying around with everything as I am trying to figure it all out on my own, since not many have used jumpline before, and im not sure if anything is similar to other hosing complanies.

I accidently deleted a folder under var/www/url called "manager" Everything was working fine untill I deleted that. I am assuming that its a major file that is important in the whole works of things... is there any way that anyone can help me? I have already contacted jumpline, but need help as soon as possible, and was hoping someone here could help in the mean time.

Let me know what you can do...

Also, when uploading with a program such as frontpage or bluevoda, where do you upload that to? besides using your ftp? ip and password, since I have looked everywhere for these and cant find them anywhere...

I may sound clueless with this entire thing, but thats only because I am..

Any help at all would be great.

Thanks,
Andrew Shaw

[Honan]

my manager folder is located in var/www/html/

I am sure their help desk will respond quickly
They are very helpful to an idiot like me

I ftp to var/www/html/ if it is for the main domain or var/www/domainname if it is for other domains

In a mail message from no-reply at jumpline .com they gave me my ftp info along with other stuff
You should have a similar message

It was
FTP server hostname: ftp. my main domain name .com

IP Address:

FTP Username:

FTP Password:

FTP Root directory: /var/www/html/

You don't need the ip address to upload

[dcristo]

If you have setup virtual hosts (for different websites on the same account) I have been uploading to /ftp/pub/useraccount/ which is probably a mirror of a different directory. If your still having issues shoot me a PM and I'll try and help out, I just started using Jumpline myself.

[Andrew Shaw]

Thanks a lot for your help both of you... It was much help, and very useful. I think im actually getting the hang of all this... its tough starting out, but once you figure things out its not half bad. Im trying to do it without any help from threads on the forum... Just want to see how hard it will be developing without any help. It might be stupid, but its somewhat of a personal achievement. Thanks again, and I will be sure to post if I get stumped again

[mmkrulz]

Thanks a lot for your help both of you... It was much help, and very useful. I think im actually getting the hang of all this... its tough starting out, but once you figure things out its not half bad. Im trying to do it without any help from threads on the forum... Just want to see how hard it will be developing without any help. It might be stupid, but its somewhat of a personal achievement. Thanks again, and I will be sure to post if I get stumped again

Go for it, best way to learn, but you don't necessarily have to deter help, you can learn from it to expedite the process of actually learning what you need.

[H2FC]

Wouldn't it be great if you could buy a plug-in chip that would automatically build your websites? That is, with very little help from you after you gave it an example of what you wanted. Why isn't this possible and why hasn't somebody done it?

[Andrew Shaw]

Thanks guys.

One thing I have been stumped on the last few days is where to upload the pictures... It seems basic html within var/www/html doesnt work. Is there a specific folder to upload the pictures to the server?

[Honan]

Thanks guys.

One thing I have been stumped on the last few days is where to upload the pictures... It seems basic html within var/www/html doesnt work. Is there a specific folder to upload the pictures to the server?

Do you mean images for your main domain or other domains?
Basically you put the images where the code on your web pages says they should be.
Often it is under a folder named images in the relevant directory.
For example, I have used the one click wordpress blog installation that jumpline provide for the main domain
My images are in /usr/webapps/weblog/images/
However if I had upoaded a default home page to var/www/html and that page had code that pointed to images in /images, then my images would need to go in var/www/html/images
Hope this helps
The help desk at jumpline could probably explain it a little better so that it is clearer to you

[Area52]

Thanks guys.

One thing I have been stumped on the last few days is where to upload the pictures... It seems basic html within var/www/html doesnt work. Is there a specific folder to upload the pictures to the server?

Web hosts setups vary, but you should be able to create a folder and name it "images" (w/o quotes) or whatever you prefer, then just upload your image files (.jpeg, .gif, etc.) to that folder using ftp. Folder permissions must be set correctly to access if the host is using Apache server. A basic web page is nothing more than images and hyperlinks. It gets more complicated when you add a server side script with a database to make a site dynamic, but the basics of displaying images and links is the same. So, if you want to display an image, the html would be something like this.

<img src="yourdomain.com/images/yourphoto.jpeg" border="0">

The code is directing the browser to find an image found at this location on your server ("yourdomain.com/images/yourphoto.jpeg") and display it at this point on the web page at the size it was created with no border. There are other refinements that may be necessary to add, such as height and width of the image, alt and title tags, etc, which would take a while to explain. Here's an excellent resource to learn more about html: http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp

Here's a working example. Go to view on your browser while viewing this page, then click view source. A new window will open. This is the html code for this thread. Click edit, then click find. Enter "Ashaw's Avatar" in the field, then click find next. You should see this:

<a href="member.php?u=65808">
<img src="http://www.dnforum.com/customavatars/avatar65808_1.gif" width="49" height="70" alt="Ashaw's Avatar" border="0" /></a>

This snippet is for displaying your avatar image. Also this code, <a href="member.php?u=65808"> creates a link for the photo to your user profile. The </a> is required to close the anchor tag.

[Andrew Shaw]

Very helpful guys. I think my problem was that I was naming my photos with a .html extention, which was most likely causing them to get screwed up.

Thanks for the help again!

Anyone with experience, and knowing mine... Is building an online store not a good first move for someone just learning this?

[patroiz]

Could just also buy a script, atleast until you have gained a solid knowledge in web development,

[meetmydomains]

Hi -

I am kinda late to the game on this one - but I will chime in.

What is the end result of what you are doing going to be? Do you want it to be something similar to an ecommerce site that you can list, promote and sell direct to the public, or just a product/business information site which will be used for public information.

On initial glance - it looks like ecommerce is the way you want to go.

There are MANY fairly easy to use ecommerce applications on the market right now that make product additions, SEO, order management etc, a fairly easy process. Even for someone with little to no html coding experience! We all started somewhere - dont sweat the small stuff with it, it will come around in time and be second nature...

Most of the applications are driven by one main file, the Inc_template file. It is the only one you make changes to and everything else is done within the application with point/click forms.

I have been using a cart application from CandyPress for several years. I have not updated the cart in 3 years because the version I had prior to that was a good starting point that I slowly took apart and redeveloped into the "animal of my needs" that it is today, so I cannot provide feedback on their newest products...

I have 6 ecommerce sites I use the same application with - all six are able to handle 100% of their own updates, 100% of order processing etc... I do however make sure they cant do EVERYTHING - then they wouldnt need me anymore!

Hosting requirements for different applications vary - I prefer windows or asp vbscript driven sites. Its just my own preference since I know access and mssql, and what I am familiar with. many others prefer php and mysql... due to the low cost and what they are familiar with!

The CP frontend I talked about above is actually free - if you want the ability to run live orders and collect money, I think there was a $49.00 charge for the backend of the ecommerce engine when i got mine - I dont know if that has changed or not.

Here are two sites running the same candypress ecommerce engine:

www.maverick-music <dot> com
www.madisonavenuecloseouts <dot> com

The entire layout is changed with one file... everything else just kinda falls into place!

Mark