Moniker Affiliate program that pays on on their "margin" ??

[James]

I belong to quite of few different affiliate programs and while checking sales

on a particular site I saw numbers that didn't "jive"

After 3 weeks their reply finally was

you are getting commission on the margin that we make on a

transaction.

example:

domain sale $60 domain cost $40 bottom line $20 commission $2 ??

Though on their site there is no mention of this just:

Domain Registrations/Transfers/Renewals - 10% (For all gTLD Pricing $7.95 and above)
Forwarding Services / Domain Privacy - 30%
Web Hosting and Email Solutions - 30% (For initial order only)
Domain Appraisals – 20%

Is this a normal practice ??

jim

[2gajgops]

Very misleading - I wouldn't deal with a company like that. That is not the norm. All of the specifics should be laid out in advance. Percentage of "margin" is ridiculous.

[James]

and from their tech support

I checked his account and his commission is right on the money. Please tell him that he is getting commission on the margin that we make on a transaction and not on the total order placed by his referred customers.

What gets me is a sale like this

Transaction Total: $481.20
Total Paid: $481.20

And getting a $3.21 commission

jim

[2gajgops]

If it is an in-house affiliate program, and you are generating significant sales, the percentage or terms could be negotiable. I've had success in the past with some smaller sites at renegotiating the terms based upon the amount of sales I produced for them.

$3 for a $500 sale is terrible. Are they really saying they only made $32.10 in margin on $500? You should find a different program.

[James]

well I changed my affiliates but the program was through moniker.com and it seems no one there will decipher the transaction

Date Type Reference Amount

2009-07-11 C 32474180 3.21

Transaction Date: 2009-07-11
Transaction ID: 32474180
Transaction Total: $481.20
Total Paid: $481.20
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-07-11 Payment Moniker - 697.87 1 481.20 $481.20
Total charges: $481.20
2009-07-11 Payment Moniker - 697.87 - $481.20


Balance: $0.00

[MonikerMan]

There is nothing misleading here. The commission is of margin, not of the total of course. That is how affiliate programs work James and I told you that in several emails. Also, purchasing prepaid funds does not earn commission until the person checks out and buys a product that is commissionable.

No one is taking your money, stealing it and we certainly are not holding it. In addition, you are not supposed to earn affiliate commissions on your own purchases....yet you seem to have done that for some time.

I thought we addressed this some time ago.

thanks

[James]

Originally Posted by MonikerMan

There is nothing misleading here. The commission is of margin, not of the total of course. That is how affiliate programs work James and I told you that in several emails.

Sorry Monte but Idotz and dotster pays commission on the sale total..thats how their affiliate programs works

Originally Posted by MonikerMan

Also, purchasing prepaid funds does not earn commission until the person checks out and buys a product that is commissionable.

So I'll earn a commisson on all those prepaid "sales" in my account when they get used GREAT !!

Originally Posted by MonikerMan

No one is taking your money, stealing it and we certainly are not holding it. In addition, you are not supposed to earn affiliate commissions on your own purchases....yet you seem to have done that for some time.

I've spent thousands of dollars with moniker and even if a few got credited

through my affiliate account it was probably because I was working on some

sites..And if not i see nothing in your affiliate program rules that precludes

me from doing so..If there was intent I would use my affiliate links for all transactions

note: one $50 payment is the only payment ever received from monikers affiliate program..which went right into my moniker account and was used for renewals

Originally Posted by MonikerMan

I thought we addressed this some time ago.

thanks

no you said

I said I would look into it

anything else to be addressed ??

jim


BTW can anyone from moniker explain the 2 different figues given in my example ?

2009-07-11 Payment Moniker - 697.87 - $481.20

[James]

2 months later update

Originally Posted by James

So I'll earn a commisson on all those prepaid "sales" in my account when they get used GREAT !!

Since I've taken my Moniker/oversee links down these are my "prepaid transactions"

Transaction Date: 2009-09-22
Transaction ID: 32698944
Transaction Total: $27.98
Total Paid: $27.98
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-09-22 Payment Moniker - 453.81 1 27.98 $27.98
Total charges: $27.98
2009-09-22 Payment Moniker - 453.81 - $27.98
Balance: $0.00

Transaction Date: 2009-09-29
Transaction ID: 32721027
Transaction Total: $31.00
Total Paid: $31.00
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-09-29 Payment Moniker - 505.88 1 31.00 $31.00
Total charges: $31.00
2009-09-29 Payment Moniker - 505.88 - $31.00

Transaction Date: 2009-09-29
Transaction ID: 32720879
Transaction Total: $139.90
Total Paid: $139.90
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds

Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-09-29 Payment Moniker - 645.78 1 139.90 $139.90
Total charges: $139.90
2009-09-29 Payment Moniker - 645.78 - $139.90
Balance: $0.00

Balance: $0.00

Transaction Date: 2009-10-01
Transaction ID: 32725236
Transaction Total: $6.90
Total Paid: $6.90
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-01 Payment Moniker - 428.40 1 6.90 $6.90
Total charges: $6.90
2009-10-01 Payment Moniker - 428.40 - $6.90
Balance: $0.00

Transaction Date: 2009-10-02
Transaction ID: 32729221
Transaction Total: $7.75
Total Paid: $7.75
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-02 Payment Moniker - 381.66 1 7.75 $7.75
2009-10-02 Pre-Paid Funds Credit 1 7.75 $7.75
2009-10-02 Domain Renewal (WWWTACOBELL.COM) 1 7.75 $7.75
Total charges: $23.25
2009-10-02 Payment Moniker - 381.66 - $7.75
Balance: $15.50

Transaction Date: 2009-10-02
Transaction ID: 32729288
Transaction Total: $267.32
Total Paid: $267.32
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-02 Payment Moniker - 381.66 1 267.32 $267.32
Total charges: $267.32
2009-10-02 Payment Moniker - 381.66 - $267.32
Balance: $0.00

Transaction Date: 2009-10-08
Transaction ID: 32743638
Transaction Total: $7.75
Total Paid: $7.75
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-08 Payment Moniker - 200.66 1 7.75 $7.75
Total charges: $7.75
2009-10-08 Payment Moniker - 200.66 - $7.75
Balance: $0.00

Transaction Date: 2009-10-13
Transaction ID: 32754419
Transaction Total: $13.99
Total Paid: $13.99
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-13 Payment Moniker - 144.51 1 13.99 $13.99
Total charges: $13.99
2009-10-13 Payment Moniker - 144.51 - $13.99
Balance: $0.00

Transaction Date: 2009-10-13
Transaction ID: 32754457
Transaction Total: $279.80
Total Paid: $279.80
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-13 Payment Moniker - 330.52 1 279.80 $279.80
Total charges: $279.80
2009-10-13 Payment Moniker - 330.52 - $279.80

Transaction Date: 2009-10-14
Transaction ID: 32757969
Transaction Total: $224.76
Total Paid: $224.76
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-14 Payment Moniker - 550.72 1 224.76 $224.76
Total charges: $224.76
2009-10-14 Payment Moniker - 550.72 - $224.76
Balance: $0.00

Transaction Date: 2009-10-20
Transaction ID: 32778131
Transaction Total: $31.00
Total Paid: $31.00
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-20 Payment Moniker - 325.96 1 31.00 $31.00
Total charges: $31.00
2009-10-20 Payment Moniker - 325.96 - $31.00
Balance: $0.00

Transaction Date: 2009-10-21
Transaction ID: 32785306
Transaction Total: $118.82
Total Paid: $118.82
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-21 Payment Moniker - 294.96 1 118.82 $118.82
Total charges: $118.82
2009-10-21 Payment Moniker - 294.96 - $118.82
Balance: $0.00

Transaction Date: 2009-10-21
Transaction ID: 32785336
Transaction Total: $15.50
Total Paid: $15.50
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-10-21 Payment Moniker - 676.14 1 15.50 $15.50
Total charges: $15.50
2009-10-21 Payment Moniker - 676.14 - $15.50
Balance: $0.00

Maybe I'm stupid but why do my commissions for these say $0 ??

These were prepaid funds that were used so I should be getting a commision on these sales...another answer I'd like to see as my affiliate links were taken down..perhaps time to turn it over to "someone else" and have the *** audit these transactions along with the snapnames transactions..

jim

Originally Posted by MonikerMan

There is nothing misleading here. The commission is of margin, not of the total of course. That is how affiliate programs work James and I told you that in several emails.

heres my idotz one sale transaction

Page Banner was Clicked From: http://nic.vc/ BannerID Clicked: 278 View

USD 10/26/2009 05:12:21 PM [23595905] 446.7 $67.00
OrderID
Sale - 600910261680
Affiliate Defined Sub-Tracking: Processing
Lock Date: 11/20/2009

Thats 15% of the total sale...not "margin" as you stated ... and again ..dotster the same as the rest..why are your "terms" different than the others??perhaps you should state this in your terms of service.. "thousands $$$$ of sales/prefunding and 1 $50 payment..duhhhh....

[trader]

As far as I know have never receieved any commissions from their affiliate program and I have had a number of their links on my websites for several years in well placed obvious page locations which should get a fair number of clicks.

[James]

Originally Posted by trader

As far as I know have never receieved any commissions from their affiliate program and I have had a number of their links on my websites for several years in well placed obvious page locations which should get a fair number of clicks.

All I can say is what's already documented..

I see no reason to use their program just based on the "margin" factor.

My primary direction are CCTLDs. which now I am using idotz.net at

shareasale.com 15% of the total sale and dotster.com at cj.com with a tier

program 10.00% equal to or greater than $51.00 USD increase commission

to 15.00% per action equal to or greater than $101.00 USD increase

commission to 20.00% per action. Again on the total sales..not margin.

There is also none of this prefunding crap that you don't see commisions on

and nobody at moniker will/can explain exactly what these numbers mean

Date Type Reference Amount

2009-07-11 C 32474180 3.21

Transaction Date: 2009-07-11
Transaction ID: 32474180
Transaction Total: $481.20
Total Paid: $481.20
Comment: Pre-Paid Funds


Transaction Details
Posted Date Description Qty Unit Price Amount
2009-07-11 Payment Moniker - 697.87 1 481.20 $481.20
Total charges: $481.20
2009-07-11 Payment Moniker - 697.87 - $481.20


Balance: $0.00

jim