Recent events and domain names

[SedoCoUk]

Hello All,

In the wake of the recent disaster in London we actually received some requests to list domains related to the event. Out of sensitivity of those effected we cannot accept any domains related to the attack.

If you have any questions about this policy please let me know.

Jay
jay@sedo.com

[OnSpec]

A thoughtful gesture in respect of all of those people affected. Not everything in this business is about making a buck.

[dodo1]

Great decision, sedo. People will thank you for not listing the domains of the
domain speculators who want to make money out of disasters like the terrorist
attacks in London.

[Duke]

Good move Jay. There is an old saying that your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. People can certainly act like idiots if they want to (though I don't think most of these folks are acting), but I don't think the rest of the industry should stand idly by and let them tar us with their classless behaviour.

[steven22]

jay,
I am still waiting to hear back from you. Show me the money!

[namestrands]

On the flip side. Watch the share prices of security firms here in the UK and abroad. The share prices will rise in the wake of these events. Most of you may have noticed that the worlds financial markets took a beating yesterday, but quickly swung back into action from people moving their investments from airlines and putting it into security related companies.. This allowed our world financial markets to recover quickly and therefore benefiting us all with reduced interest rates and proved that you can hit us but we will get back.. and move on..

While this was a tragic event, I don’t think it’s on par with recent events such as the natural disasters like the Tsunami in Asia. This act was allegedly caused by an act of terrorism, not an act of god, although some people might see a connection.

Therefore by definition all the people who started buying up security stock would be profiteering, however this caused us all to avert a market crash.

The simple fact is that while we condemn these acts of people profiteering, it is a necessary evil in order to balance the scales.

Now if a domain like this was to sell on sedo then their profit margin would increase therefore contributing to society, the person selling the domain would no doubt use the money earned to buy goods, again further contributing to society financially. The circle of life. The important thing is to carry on as normal and not allow acts like this to stop the normal status quo.

I am not trying to justify people doing this I am only highlighting that positive things can come from this. However by preventing a person’s right to register and sell a domain for whatever these reasons is another way for these alleged terrorists to win as now they have disrupted another route to market.

I suspect now that interest rates will drop by a ¼ % , which will be great for the British consumers and home owners as the cost of living will now decrease and consumer spending will rise. I can not stress enough at the importance of putting this all behind us and moving on. I for one don’t want this to effect my way of life if we let it get to us they win.

We all have to move on from this and not be made to judge and doubt one another.



Devils Advocate

[SedoCoUk]

jay,
I am still waiting to hear back from you. Show me the money!

Hi Steve,

Sent you an email last night.

Let me know if you got it.

Jay
jay@sedo.com

On the flip side. Watch the share prices of security firms here in the UK and abroad. The share prices will rise in the wake of these events. Most of you may have noticed that the worlds financial markets took a beating yesterday, but quickly swung back into action from people moving their investments from airlines and putting it into security related companies.. This allowed our world financial markets to recover quickly and therefore benefiting us all with reduced interest rates and proved that you can hit us but we will get back.. and move on..

While this was a tragic event, I don’t think it’s on par with recent events such as the natural disasters like the Tsunami in Asia. This act was allegedly caused by an act of terrorism, not an act of god, although some people might see a connection.

Therefore by definition all the people who started buying up security stock would be profiteering, however this caused us all to avert a market crash.

The simple fact is that while we condemn these acts of people profiteering, it is a necessary evil in order to balance the scales.

Now if a domain like this was to sell on SEDO then their profit margin would increase therefore contributing to society, the person selling the domain would no doubt use the money earned to buy goods, again further contributing to society financially. The circle of life. The important thing is to carry on as normal and not allow acts like this to stop the normal status quo.

I am not trying to justify people doing this I am only highlighting that positive things can come from this. However by preventing a person’s right to register and sell a domain for whatever these reasons is another way for these alleged terrorists to win as now they have disrupted another route to market.

I suspect now that interest rates will drop by a ¼ % , which will be great for the British consumers and home owners as the cost of living will now decrease and consumer spending will rise. I can not stress enough at the importance of putting this all behind us and moving on. I for one don’t want this to effect my way of life if we let it get to us they win.

We all have to move on from this and not be made to judge and doubt one another.



Devils Advocate

Some of the names like londonassault.com slipped through before we put up a filter and we've had to remove a few, like that one, after the fact.

What you're saying is true. That's the way things work in a market society.

We definitely don't want to alienate anyone who sells with us and we definitely don't want to be percieved as censoring people any more than being callous. Deciding which is the lesser of two evils isn't easy but given the nature of the event we decided restricing such names would be best.

Jay
jay@sedo.com

[croupier]

Great post namestrands.

Us Brits are a hardy folk, no need for kneejerk reactions. Let's get this thing behind us asap and focus on the big picture.

www.makepovertyhistory.org - www.live8live.com

[Wot]

I agree that some would get offended by certain references to terrorism, tsunami etc.

I have personally had terrorism and tsunami names rejected by sedo.

If there is a problem with this type of "offensive" name then make a seperate category under something like " names that may offend enter at your own risk".

It is hypocritical to ban some names and to retain an extensive list of similar names that sedo already has, search - tsunami or terrorism!

Names like Paedophile.de , violentgangrapes.com etc are for sale at Sedo, where do you want to stop /start?

I concur that the london bombings, the tsunami, Sept 11 etc are tragic events but nevertheless newsworthy - just look at the headlines of all the world's newspapers particularly those in the UK with sensational headlines designed to sell more papers and make more money!

This fine line of "listing not listing" could be trod by my earlier recommendation to make a new category, any other ideas?


Similar thread:
http://www.dnforum.com/f129/tsunami-sedo-thread-98830.html

[namestrands]

some great arguments there Wot. sedo playing judge and jury are themselves using this sensationalism advertising, by them standing up and announcing this ban, which in itself can also be construed as a form of marketing, they are using this to say to the world "sedo Cares" of course they may or may not.. the only reason why Tsunami domains were blocked was due to complaints. Where was "SEDO's Morality then?"

Again the Tsunami was a natural disaster, and not on par with recent events.. By banning these new domains SEDO themselves are contributing however indirect to these events... We need to move on. Rebuild and Start the new chapter... I can not stress this enough.. the more we restrict the more these terrorist take a piece of our lives. I for one will not be party to any such organisation.

[Acro]

Since we're on the talk about filters...

I have a domain that contains the female name "Olympia" and sedo is rejecting it because of the Olympic/Olympian trademarks.

You can't be serious about filtering out a word that has been in place 2,500 years prior to the Olympic Games trademark as a location and female name.

[seeker]

sedo should not be censoring anything.
it is too difficult and too unfair to try to play the 'what's fair' game.
sedo is a domain market place, and as such it should remain.
You are at risk of opening Pandora's box by selective filtration.
and once it is open, I can show you even more disgusting names listed at sedo.
its not good to filter, let the market take care of itself.

[namestrands]

I think the majority agrees that sedo are walking on ice here. After much soul searching, I am seriously considering taking my business elsewhere now. sedo are playing on these events and as for the olympic games trademark issue, it really is becoming tiresome and it is double standards..

Disclaimer: Domain owner and Sedo maintain no relationship with third party advertisers. Reference to any specific service or trade mark is not controlled by Sedo or domain owner and does not constitute or imply its association, endorsement or recommendation.

Sedo need to decide.. either censor all domains including the child porn, anti semitism and white supremacy domains, abortion, anti-abortion, pollution, fox hunting, and every other domain that could be construed as to be sexist, racist, treasonist, fascist or because someone doesnt agree with the subject matter.. stop using recent news worthy events to stand up and declare that SEDO CARES.. we all know its a ploy; a ruse (artifice, deception, device, dodge, feint, gimmick, imposture, jig, maneuver, ploy, sleight, stratagem, subterfuge, trick)

of course it seems germanpreteen*****.com is completly acceptable for sedo to sell..

what is this a case of 1 or 2 domains being a tragedy and 1000 domains being a statistic.?

[greggish]

I think the majority agrees that sedo are walking on ice here. After much soul searching, I am seriously considering taking my business elsewhere now. sedo are playing on these events and as for the olympic games trademark issue, it really is becoming tiresome and it is double standards..



Sedo need to decide.. either censor all domains including the child porn, anti semitism and white supremacy domains, abortion, anti-abortion, pollution, fox hunting, and every other domain that could be construed as to be sexist, racist, treasonist, fascist or because someone doesnt agree with the subject matter.. stop using recent news worthy events to stand up and declare that SEDO CARES.. we all know its a ploy; a ruse (artifice, deception, device, dodge, feint, gimmick, imposture, jig, maneuver, ploy, sleight, stratagem, subterfuge, trick)

of course it seems germanpreteen*****.com is completly acceptable for sedo to sell..

what is this a case of 1 or 2 domains being a tragedy and 1000 domains being a statistic.?

I think SEDO has decided. They decided that what is truly offensive is what is currently in the news. Since the London bombings are in the news, and all over the media, this clearly makes domains relating to it much more offensive than child pornography, racism, anti-semitism, etc... While not at all sincere, it certainly makes sense from a marketing point of view. Did you really expect anything more of a business?

[Wot]

I think sedo has decided. They decided that what is truly offensive is what is currently in the news. Since the London bombings are in the news, and all over the media, this clearly makes domains relating to it much more offensive than child pornography, racism, anti-semitism, etc... While not at all sincere, it certainly makes sense from a marketing point of view. Did you really expect anything more of a business?

From sedo search for "terrorism" today 11th July

terrorism.biz Make Offer - -
terrorism.co.in Make Offer - 2
terrorismresearch.com Make Offer - 13
islamicterrorism.com Make Offer 1 -
usaterrorism.com Make Offer - 1
endterrorism.com Make Offer - -
newterrorism.com Make Offer - -
worldterrorism.com Make Offer - 43
aboutterrorism.com Make Offer - -
terrorismtoday.com Make Offer - -
global-terrorism.net Make Offer - -
preventterrorism.com Make Offer - -
terrorismcenter.com Make Offer - -
terrorismlibrary.com Make Offer - -
terrorismstudies.com Make Offer - -
globalterrorism.info Make Offer - -
nuclearterrorism.info Make Offer - -
terrorismupdate.info 2,000 $US - 2
counterterrorism.info Make Offer - -
defeatterrorism.com Make Offer - -
terrorisminsurance.info Make Offer - -
terrorisminsurance.net Make Offer

Just a few of 76


Reply from Nora @Sedo today 11th July

Hello again,
I regret that you do not agree with our policy regarding "london terror" domains.
However, the overwhelming response to our decision has been positive - the majority of people agree with the action we have taken.
At this time, out of sensitivity for those affected we have chosen to entries pertaining to events in London on July 7th.
We have no immediate plans to alter this policy.


Kind Regards,

Nora Cotter
Senior domain broker


It appears that the offensive word is "London" as there are many other country related names including USATerrorism.com - When will they stop the "sensitivity" censoreship, wonder what will be next :huh:

Feelings seem to be split on whether or not this type of censoreship is good or bad for our business but obviously Sedo have decided that they will be our conscience.

No consideration for alternatives, "special category " etc - just, we have decided