Sedo Verterans - Is this a typical offer from sedo?

[ZeRohiLL]

Thanks in advance for reading my post.

Pretty simple - I put a domain up for sale at sedo and within hours started getting views. Then I got an email - but not from sedo - simply asking what is my price. I'm sure they got my info from my WHOIS, but thats not my concern here.

My question is - is this typical? Do buyers (this one is obviously a reseller) often go outside of sedo to initiate a transaction?

And a follow up - how should I follow up? Send a reply email with my price? or ask them kindly to make an offer through sedo?

Thanks for helping a sedo noob.

-Zh

[Acro]

It's quite typical to get solicitations (and spam) outside of sedo for domains; some are legitimate, genuine inquiries that aim to find out whether you're selling or what your asking price is. Point them to sedo's page for that domain asking them to place an offer there. What you gain is that they have to register and authenticate themselves, you'll have a geolocation on them and you weed out the spammers.

[ZeRohiLL]

Thanks Arco for the quick reply. Thats what my gut was telling me to do.

-Zh

[BELLC1]

Same for eBay. I received an email this morning asking for a price on a domain I have listed there. I simply pointed to the auction in a reply.

[ZeRohiLL]

Ok, so I got a response. I replied with a simple link to my sedo page with the domain.

The email is from:

Derek Sanderson
Vice President
Elite Capital Investment Group
sanderson@eliteinvestment.net

Suddenly I'd remembered a few threads I'd already read...

Further Reading:

http://www.dnforum.com/f557/hmm-poss...ad-326911.html

http://www.dnforum.com/f557/email-el...ad-322715.html

http://www.dnforum.com/f34/i-got-sca...ad-286558.html

Like some mention, I too have been buying domain names for quite some time, since 2002. Although I'm still quite new to DNF & sedo. The difference may be that I only developed from 2002 until earlier this year.

The email templates remain the same:

Email #1:

Hello,

Your domain name has been found online.

Please let us know your price.

We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain 
business is very attractive.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Derek Sanderson
Vice President
Elite Capital Investment Group
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Email #2:

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain 
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very 
important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation 
company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from 
independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal 
companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:

http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/437219.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price 
accordingly.  It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% 
discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to 
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method:  Escrow.com, International wire 
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

Anyway, be on the lookout for more from eliteinvestment.net, they're not done yet.

-Zh

[allanh]

I got an email from Derek Sanderson as well enquiring about one of my domains.

[DOMAINERIE.EU]

This a simply a dirty trick , they charge you for an 'assessment', you pay a fee and...goood bye.

This is what I got this week:
QUOTE:

Re: Offer for xxxxxxx.com(sent 10/16/2008)

Jeudi 16 Octobre 2008 15h08mn 59s

De:
"Carter" carter@eliteinvestment.net




Can you accept 5,000 USD?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.


Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:


If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.






After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.


UNQUOTE


Dabsi.com

[oppo]

spam, trash, litter .......

[ZeRohiLL]

Yup I got that one too. I'm not receiving any more emails from them. I think they got the point when I told them their scam wasn't working.

-Zh

[longhorn]

Just as point of reference, I prefer to do deals outside of sedo at Escrow.com. (Everyone has their own opinion) So if I see a domain listed for sale at sedo I will try and find out the owner's data from whois and try to initiate a transaction through email/phone etc. Basically, not all offers are spam so just be careful.

[trevor72]

I received a similar email, Googled "Elite Capital Investment Group" and found this post. It's obviously a scam.

The only difference with my email is that it says the VP of Elite Capital Investment Group is "Anthony Carter". They must have some pretty fast turnover in their company!

The email I received...


Hello,

Your domain name has been found online.

Please let us know your price.

We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain
business is very attractive.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Anthony Carter
Vice President
Elite Capital Investment Group

[Nullmind]

Ok, so I got a response. I replied with a simple link to my sedo page with the domain.

The email is from:

Derek Sanderson
Vice President
Elite Capital Investment Group
sanderson@eliteinvestment.net

received same email today... seems they have changed the vice president and the society name

Hello,

Your domain name has been found online.

Please let us know your price.

We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain
business is very attractive.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Eric Jorgensen
Vice President
Elite Invest Network
jorgensen@eliteinvestment.net
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[exxe]

Yes, I've also received an email from Eric Jorgensen.

[Jeffreyw]

That's what appraisal scammers do if they discover a new sedo member. That's also what happen to my officemate who's a new domainer and a new sedo member.

Could it be that Sedo and these scammers connive with each other? Hhhmmm