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**flybuzz** · 10-08-2006, 12:59 PM

Just noticed couple names got bidded up to few thousands with usernames like POOL_47, POOL_1481, POOL_41859. They bid on all the names and attempt to win them all.

**GeorgeK** · 10-08-2006, 01:53 PM

Watch the WHOIS a few days later, to see if the names change hands to real registrants.

**hollayo** · 10-08-2006, 04:52 PM

those r just generic usernames before customization i think... my id is like that

**octobus** · 10-08-2006, 05:02 PM

How long does Pool give time to pay?

Some domains have been unpaid for almost a month...

**dvdrip** · 10-08-2006, 06:51 PM

You can't really tell from whois.
I had a couple of domains that I was trying for months the change the whois.
I managed to change nameservers but changing whois was impossible.
I finally did it and transfered out of namescout.

**think** · 10-08-2006, 07:25 PM

Pool makes too much money to be involved in shilling.

My account number is also generic like that......

**Bookworm SEO** · 11-15-2006, 11:28 PM

POOL_1481 is a particular account though. it's been complained of at pn (reverse that to get my meaning... damn censors) also

**RazorNF** · 11-16-2006, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bookworm SEO

POOL_1481 is a particular account though. it's been complained of at pn (reverse that to get my meaning... damn censors) also

I've seen this ID quite often - quite a few of the .ca auctions I have participated in at Pool have been against this user.

As for managing domains, it is indeed a pain. I can't personally manage ANY of the .ca names I have won through Pool's "affiliates". I always have to email my requested changes.

**typist** · 11-16-2006, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bookworm SEO

pn (reverse that to get my meaning... damn censors) also

no longer

:

http://www.namepros.com/

**PRED** · 11-16-2006, 04:49 AM

Thought i'd add my two pennies. I trust Pool as far as i can throw them!
Short & to the point.
Predator

**sudesh** · 11-16-2006, 08:42 AM

very suspicios of course and I have had the same feeling about the same username in the thread. However, it gets transfered to an account later and wonder why would someone pay so high for some silly domains. None of my bussiness of course. Very hard to overbid these users and it's only a big win for Pool when I try to overbid them. So now I have decided to bow out, when I see those users.

**Kamloops** · 11-16-2006, 10:55 AM

POOL_1481 is always bidding enormous amounts on all the TBR .ca names. You cant win if POOL_1481 is bidding and they always are. Something wrong there.

I say time to ban POOL if POOL_1481 still bids.

**DropWizard.com** · 11-16-2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamloops

POOL_1481 is always bidding enormous amounts on all the TBR .ca names. You cant win if POOL_1481 is bidding and they always are. Something wrong there.

I say time to ban POOL if POOL_1481 still bids.

Sorry.

Three of the first auctions I checked we bid against 1481 and won.

**nafti** · 11-17-2006, 02:37 PM

I think pool_1481 is a real person who has deep pockets. He has been in quite a few auctions I was in at Pool and when he is in on it, I never win. Most of his bids are WAY over the market value. Maybe he's just in it for the REALLY long term!

**tipsfromthetop** · 11-18-2006, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PREDATOR

Thought i'd add my two pennies. I trust Pool as far as i can throw them!
Short & to the point.
Predator

Yeah i so agree with this Pool in my eyes are the biggest scammers out there. Very dodgy company.

I will never back order there again after being messed around by them quite a few times.

**DropWizard.com** · 11-19-2006, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nafti

Most of his bids are WAY over the market value.

and maybe you just don't get "market value"

On the three auctions I referred to above all of them stopped around what I would consider market value and I'll tell you our reserve bids were frequently 3x higher.

True market value to me is approximately 1/10 the value of the similiar .com.

**DomainsInc** · 02-23-2007, 03:28 PM

interesting. yes, sometimes this game is a rich mans one. i should take a drive by the pool office sometime. apparently its just down the road from me.

**lazyleo** · 02-24-2007, 12:37 AM

Ohh so all you folks believe that poorman and others are not Pool's shill bidders? ..well i *think* that pool is the smartest they shill bid with perfection and fool many people and artificially raise a domains value.

**DomainsInc** · 02-24-2007, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazyleo

Ohh so all you folks believe that poorman and others are not Pool's shill bidders? ..well i *think* that pool is the smartest they shill bid with perfection and fool many people and artificially raise a domains value.

the more i watch these auctions the more i believe you are spot on. bigblackasses.com 16k? hmm. not to say the domain isn't worth that but typically domainers don't want to pay market value.

just thought some people might like to know that out of 10 auctions ending today 1481 is top bidder on 8 of them :(

**FormerDnForumer** · Yesterday, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by think

Pool makes too much money to be involved in shilling.

Hmm, I guess that idea has taken a beating lately.

This thread makes for interesting reading suddenly.

10-08-2006, 12:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
flybuzz Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 12:11 AM iTrader: (8) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 621 DNF$: 565 Location: usa	Does pool do shill bidding? Just noticed couple names got bidded up to few thousands with usernames like POOL_47, POOL_1481, POOL_41859. They bid on all the names and attempt to win them all.

10-08-2006, 01:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
GeorgeK TheBest.com Name: George Kirikos Last Online: Today 01:07 PM iTrader: (2) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,206 DNF$: 866 Location: Toronto, Canada Country:	Re: Does pool shill bidding? Watch the WHOIS a few days later, to see if the names change hands to real registrants. __________________ George Kirikos Home Page

10-08-2006, 04:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
hollayo Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 12-26-2008 09:19 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 430 DNF$: 1,094	Re: Does pool shill bidding? those r just generic usernames before customization i think... my id is like that __________________ http://campus.ws injurylawyer.cc

10-08-2006, 05:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
octobus DNF Regular Last Online: 12-27-2008 09:03 AM iTrader: (25) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 755 DNF$: 841 Location: Domain Wonderland Country:	Re: Does pool shill bidding? How long does Pool give time to pay? Some domains have been unpaid for almost a month...

10-08-2006, 06:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
dvdrip Last Online: Today 02:20 PM iTrader: (10) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,638 DNF$: 13,847 Location: Athens Greece Country:	Re: Does pool shill bidding? You can't really tell from whois. I had a couple of domains that I was trying for months the change the whois. I managed to change nameservers but changing whois was impossible. I finally did it and transfered out of namescout. __________________ www.bluepixel.gr I like .info! Now accepting .gr domain registrations from any foreign company or individual. Contact me for details.

10-08-2006, 07:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
think DNF Addict Last Online: Today 01:34 PM iTrader: (48) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,267 DNF$: 2,762 Location: Aberdeen South Dakota	Re: Does pool shill bidding? Pool makes too much money to be involved in shilling. My account number is also generic like that...... __________________

11-15-2006, 11:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bookworm SEO Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 12-03-2006 05:32 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 126 DNF$: 526 Location: Montreal, Canada	Re: Does pool shill bidding? POOL_1481 is a particular account though. it's been complained of at pn (reverse that to get my meaning... damn censors) also

11-16-2006, 04:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
PRED Last Online: Yesterday 10:34 PM iTrader: (118) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,931 DNF$: 989 Country:	Re: Does pool shill bidding? Thought i'd add my two pennies. I trust Pool as far as i can throw them! Short & to the point. Predator __________________ dental recruitment \| Follow me on Twitter \| dental practices

11-16-2006, 08:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
sudesh Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 05-12-2008 12:19 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 370 DNF$: 731 Location: Toronto Country:	Re: Does pool shill bidding? very suspicios of course and I have had the same feeling about the same username in the thread. However, it gets transfered to an account later and wonder why would someone pay so high for some silly domains. None of my bussiness of course. Very hard to overbid these users and it's only a big win for Pool when I try to overbid them. So now I have decided to bow out, when I see those users.

11-16-2006, 10:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kamloops Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 12:30 PM iTrader: (6) Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 495 DNF$: 1,261 Location: Kamloops	Re: Does pool shill bidding? POOL_1481 is always bidding enormous amounts on all the TBR .ca names. You cant win if POOL_1481 is bidding and they always are. Something wrong there. I say time to ban POOL if POOL_1481 still bids.

11-17-2006, 02:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
nafti Platinum Lifetime Member Name: N/A Last Online: Today 01:09 PM iTrader: (8) Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 274 DNF$: 248 Location: Toronto, Canada Country:	Re: Does pool shill bidding? I think pool_1481 is a real person who has deep pockets. He has been in quite a few auctions I was in at Pool and when he is in on it, I never win. Most of his bids are WAY over the market value. Maybe he's just in it for the REALLY long term! __________________

02-23-2007, 03:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
DomainsInc Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 02:19 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,392 DNF$: 437 Location: Ottawa Country:	Re: Does pool shill bidding? interesting. yes, sometimes this game is a rich mans one. i should take a drive by the pool office sometime. apparently its just down the road from me.

02-24-2007, 12:37 AM	#18 (permalink)
lazyleo Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 05-21-2009 07:33 AM iTrader: (35) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 813 DNF$: 0 Country:	Re: Does pool shill bidding? Ohh so all you folks believe that poorman and others are not Pool's shill bidders? ..well i think that pool is the smartest they shill bid with perfection and fool many people and artificially raise a domains value.

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