1 and 2 letter .de names to be released

**owntag** · 10-23-2009, 01:07 AM

co.de would get nice typein traffic

**Gerry** · 10-23-2009, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by DTalk

I CAN-NOT-BELIEVE sedo hasn't learned from the fiasco of the premium .mobi auction at the end of 2007....!!!!

The core problem, then, was ending all the auctions at the same time, which crashed their systems. They declared, afterwards, that this could NEVER happen again 'cos they had learned from that searing experience.

That little mess got some of us into a 4 month stoush - that was only resolved with some very creative negotiations, involving a lot of bidders from all around the world + sedo + the Registry...

Now, here is Sedo - not only ending this .de auction for thousands of names at the same time - but, also, running multiple other auctions simultaneously...!!!!

It'd be laughable if the consequences for many people were not so potentially serious.

There's a kind of morbid fascination at that kind of stupidity...

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That was a huge mess. This is even messier, I think.

We're not just talking 100 domains. We're talking thousands all ending at precisely the exact same time.

Then Sedo want's to come on here all innocent saying they were the victim of a DDoS attack.

Their system (and wisdom) failed again.

I wonder how many legal filings and injunctions will be handed down this time?

**PokerPie** · 10-23-2009, 02:13 AM

Now that the sedo auction is over can the domains still be bid on through DENIC? I just went to DENIC.de and saw nothing about this. Is it too late now to bid on these?

**Wot** · 10-23-2009, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by PokerPie

Now that the sedo auction is over can the domains still be bid on through DENIC? I just went to DENIC.de and saw nothing about this. Is it too late now to bid on these?

http://www.denic.de/en/denic-in-dial...ash=6b637f147f

**simon** · 10-23-2009, 03:32 AM

http://www.peew.de/domains/denic/kur...009-10-23.html

you can see which names are still available

**Rubber Duck** · 10-23-2009, 05:52 AM

If it were down to ICANN they could, but it ain't down to ICANN because it is a ccTLD.

You would have to check the terms of their license with German Government.

Originally Posted by demaxxus

Pretty sure they can charge whatever they want. Like every other registrar they set their own prices, it's just a matter of whether or not you choose to register/renew with them or not.

As long as they tell you upfront what you're in for, they could charge a million dollars for renewals if they wanted to.

**koba** · 10-23-2009, 07:14 AM

Articles in German:

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0...656926,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzp...656817,00.html

**Leading Names** · 10-23-2009, 07:32 AM

I just checked a few. DD24 got tv.de – congrats sedo, that's close on 300k Euros in your back pocket.

realtime.at got a few of the one letter names I checked like i.de. You'd expect realtime.at to do well, as that's that they do – catch dropping names.

- Rob

**DomainsInc** · 10-23-2009, 07:33 AM

so was anyone able to hand reg anything? every registrar i checked they just said blah.de is not a valid domain...

**demaxxus** · 10-23-2009, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by simon

http://www.peew.de/domains/denic/kur...009-10-23.html

you can see which names are still available

I'm guessing this site isn't realtime? I would think by now that all the 1 and 2 character domains are totally gone, no?

**dnbknowledge** · 10-23-2009, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by demaxxus

I'm guessing this site isn't realtime? I would think by now that all the 1 and 2 character domains are totally gone, no?

All of 'em have been registered except a few (e.de, f.de, g.de, x.de, y.de, z.de and a few LLs) but no, they're not up for grabs

They've haven't been made available due to legal issues:

http://www.denic.de/fileadmin/Hinter...deLGUrteil.pdf

**kevmacmeh** · 10-23-2009, 09:21 AM

how much did realtime.at charge for pre-orders?

they got names like pc.de aswell

**think** · 10-23-2009, 01:10 PM

Anyone got notification that they won any of the sedo auction names?

**Leading Names** · 10-23-2009, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by kevmacmeh

how much did realtime.at charge for pre-orders?

they got names like pc.de aswell

They were catching for themselves I think, can't blame them. Bet all the .de registrars will be down the pub getting pissed by now. It certainly has been a profitable day for them, what with certain registrars ending up with about a million Euros worth of names, give or take a few hundred k.

- Rob

**Dale Hubbard** · 10-23-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Leading Names

They were catching for themselves I think, can't blame them. Bet all the .de registrars will be down the pub getting pissed by now. It certainly has been a profitable day for them, what with certain registrars ending up with about a million Euros worth of names, give or take a few hundred k.

- Rob

Amen to that....

**DomainsInc** · 10-23-2009, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Leading Names

They were catching for themselves I think, can't blame them. Bet all the .de registrars will be down the pub getting pissed by now. It certainly has been a profitable day for them, what with certain registrars ending up with about a million Euros worth of names, give or take a few hundred k.

- Rob

i think its a load of crap. can you imagine networlk solutions keeping all of the good names for themselves back in the day. i need to get my own registrar so i can have a constant unfair advantage.

**Dale Hubbard** · 10-23-2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by DomainsInc

i think its a load of crap. can you imagine networlk solutions keeping all of the good names for themselves back in the day. i need to get my own registrar so i can have a constant unfair advantage.

Have you ever seen the first 100 lines of a .com zone file?

**1john2004** · 10-23-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by think

Anyone got notification that they won any of the sedo auction names?

I received some(was bidding on 3 digits .de)

**Dale Hubbard** · 10-23-2009, 03:10 PM

To wit:

server1:/home/dale/zones/com# whois A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET

Whois server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Server Name: A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET
IP Address: 2001:503:A83E:0:0:0:2:30
IP Address: 192.5.6.30
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com

Then:

Domain Name: A.COM
Registrar: RESERVED-INTERNET ASSIGNED NUMBERS AUTHORITY
Whois Server: whois.iana.org
Referral URL: http://res-dom.iana.org
Name Server: No nameserver
Status: serverDeleteProhibited
Status: serverTransferProhibited
Status: serverUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 09-dec-2008
Creation Date: 01-dec-1993
Expiration Date: 08-dec-2009

**Wot** · 10-23-2009, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Leading Names

I just checked a few. DD24 got tv.de – congrats sedo, that's close on 300k Euros in your back pocket.

realtime.at got a few of the one letter names I checked like i.de. You'd expect realtime.at to do well, as that's that they do – catch dropping names.

- Rob

I think DD24 were catching it for themselves? 25K euro reg fee but now sedo broker can buy for $xxx,xxx on behalf of winning bidder and just get commission?