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Old 08-26-2008, 02:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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(Lee Jay) Bed & Bath was a company in the US that's no longer in business. The brand still has awareness here, although people often confuse it with Bed, Bath, and Beyond which is an entirely different company.

Several people on my father's side of the family were/are in the domestics industry, and my father knows the founder of Bed & Bath (Howard) from many years ago. If I knew the domain name was for sale, I would have bought it myself for $50k - so there are at least two people who would pay $50,000 for BedAndBath.com.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:32 AM   #22 (permalink)
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(Lee Jay) Bed & Bath was a company in the US that's no longer in business. The brand still has awareness here, although people often confuse it with Bed, Bath, and Beyond which is an entirely different company.

Several people on my father's side of the family were/are in the domestics industry, and my father knows the founder of Bed & Bath (Howard) from many years ago. If I knew the domain name was for sale, I would have bought it myself for $50k - so there are at least two people who would pay $50,000 for BedAndBath.com.
This, again, proves that value is something strictly individual: Who wants things, pays what it takes instead of listening to doom thinkers.
$50,000.00? I would not pay anything for it myself if I did not know the full story.
Considering the unveiled information, this domain may well later join the $100,000.00 plus sales party ...
IMHO, appraisals have so little meaning - It is the inside information that does it.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:35 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Are you saying we're just a bunch of grumpy old domainers?
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:36 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Are you saying we're just a bunch of grumpy old domainers?
Heck no, Acro! It is not an insult.
I don't mean to hurt anybody.

I just mean that we must not focus on the success of others, but on our own.
Impatient domainers usually have to take whatever the can get.
Patient domainers remain stuck with their stuff, or they hit the jackpot sooner or later.
Let us be happy for each sale, though we don't understand it.
IMHO the best way to domain success is to set up webs with whatever legal content.
Have them listed on search engines.
There are bread people, there are butter people, there are bread and butter people ... (etc.). (wink).
If they find a place with information that "could" suit them, they likely come back.

And, all developed webs sooner or later get put in archive.org ...
For Free! Ain't that nice?
Adsense? Why should I allow ads from competitors on my web or parked page ...
Parking? Who understands the mechanism definitely does not do it.
No, we are not grumpy old domainers.
But who does what most people do, usually ends where most people end ...

(Any domain can be N° on Google - type in: hohohoho).
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Estibot says $7,000.00 for this domain only ...
Again, we see that people pay what they can afford to get in their hands what they want.
They clearly don't mind that some people are upset.
... why should they?
Regarding your Estibot reference, a couple of comments if I may:

Estibot sucks, I know, I know but some tips to use it:

1) pay attention to entering the domain name - BedAndBath.com (capitalized keywords) so that it will parse the keywords correctly, Estibot says
Domain Appraisal for domain name only :
USD 71,000 (probably a bit closer than many would have guessed)

2) look at the other Estibot stats, get informed, and do your own valuation:

Estibot says:
Domain
bedandbath.com
Overture with extension 771
Wordtracker with extension 23

Keywords: bed and bath
Frequency (Google) 5090000
in Anchor Text 428000
in Title 902000
in URL 314000
Backlinks 23
PageRank 3
Alexa Rank 1038482 **
Traffic (Visits / Day) 130**
PPC Ads # 25
Max PPC Bid $2.3
MAX PPC Income/day $42.17
Overture/mo 702147
Wordtracker/day 593
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Old 08-31-2008, 04:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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This is a high traffic name and I actually was going to outbid the 50k bid with a partner..it's most likely a very good earner as well plus generic, old company domain, will always get traffic naturally IN ADDITION to targetted spill-over traffic as a result of similiar companies names...this was a great deal for everyone all around. Great name.
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i glad for the seller..... that just shows me the power of virtual real estate...
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I would imagine that most of the traffic is from women looking to purchase bed and bathroom items, credit card in hand

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Red face I don't say Estibot sucks - Only: Stats are unscientific arguments.

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Regarding your Estibot reference, a couple of comments if I may:

Estibot sucks, I know, I know but some tips to use it:

1) pay attention to entering the domain name - BedAndBath.com (capitalized keywords) so that it will parse the keywords correctly, Estibot says
Domain Appraisal for domain name only :
USD 71,000 (probably a bit closer than many would have guessed)

2) look at the other Estibot stats, get informed, and do your own valuation:

Estibot says:
Domain
bedandbath.com
Overture with extension 771
Wordtracker with extension 23

Keywords: bed and bath
Frequency (Google) 5090000
in Anchor Text 428000
in Title 902000
in URL 314000
Backlinks 23
PageRank 3
Alexa Rank 1038482 **
Traffic (Visits / Day) 130**
PPC Ads # 25
Max PPC Bid $2.3
MAX PPC Income/day $42.17
Overture/mo 702147
Wordtracker/day 593
Stats are reports about past situations.
Balanced Scorecarding is accepted reflect a most recent situation, thugh it is about a situation minutes ago or before.
Stats are a probability and expectation assumption tool.
Stats are not science, although there are colleges and degrees in the field.

It does not matter how many clicks or visits there are from anybody if there is no return from it.
Advertisers pay because they Hope upon sales resulting from their ads.
It is good for the web developer, if there is more return than reg. fee.
The above numbers don't say how many people Did earn anything, or how many sales were made.
Traffic and visits are relevant for who believes it is relevant.
I can go very far in this.
It is all a mechanism of belief in a system, and wishful thinking.
Although I admit that probability studies do have lead to added productivity, I believe that it is usually very personal reasons that drive people to do things and not what people did before in similar situations.
I say "similar" - not "equal" because no two situations are ever the identical.

Wondering why the owners of BedAndBath.co.uk preferred to pay instead of suing for TM infringment.
Same thing for streetmap.co.uk who bought streetmap.com for 157k

Probably because they wisely prefer to stay popular with their audience.
The purchase price is probably recuperated somehow.

And no, Estibot does not suck.
But IMHO needs, as a comparator tool, some refinements and a user manual.

Whew ...
That's it for today.

If I'm boring, somebody say so, please.
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Estibot says $7,000.00 for this domain only ...
Again, we see that people pay what they can afford to get in their hands what they want.
They clearly don't mind that some people are upset.
... why should they?

Estibot actually says:

http://estibot.com/results.php?domain=BedAndBath.com

$72k with a nice overture score of 702,147.
Great 3-worder sale; congrats to buyer and seller.
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Cool move by the seller, laughing all the way to the bank.
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Stats.....*SNIP*
Thanks for that. I agree mostly with everything you said, and point well taken about the need for a proper user manual.

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I would imagine that most of the traffic is from women looking to purchase bed and bathroom items, credit card in hand
That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw this name....traffic couldn't get much better than that!
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