Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

[cadillac880]

See here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

[Doc Com]

Old news.

And, sheeeeeeeeeee's back.

Yes, Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) is the co-sponsor of this bill. She has been pushing for several years now to get her name on an internet related bill.

Now, seeing that her previous co-sponsor, Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), was convicted on several varying issues, Ms. Snowe has teamed up with Jay on this thingy.

[namenut]

Originally Posted by Doc Com

Old news.

And, sheeeeeeeeeee's back.

Yes, Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) is the co-sponsor of this bill. She has been pushing for several years now to get her name on an internet related bill.

Now, seeing that her previous co-sponsor, Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), was convicted on several varying issues, Ms. Snowe has teamed up with Jay on this thingy.

Scary thing is .... The current administration ... legislative body ... "trend" seems to be ... push and pass all kinds of "thingies"


NN

[Gregcyber]

I guess he can now close your web site if you have a message like
" I oppose Obama's control over the Internet " or "Obama Is going to distroy the USA first and then the World"

[Doc Com]

This is nothing new. Nothing.

This is perhaps many of you have read this in this verbiage.

The fact that a person is attempting to sponsor/pass a bill providing these powers may be the first time people are seeing this in writting.

Fact is, the US deeming that an attack on the root servers to be "an act of war" has missed many people's attention.

You can read all the boring stuff if you want to:
http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?re...=10968&page=97

Considering all the attempts in the past to gain access, and the thwarted attempts and increased security measures, the harder something becomes to infiltrate - when that moment does happen that our internet is compromised, it will be that much more difficult to regain the control of and the advantage.

Plus, lets not kid ourselves. Anyone who does not believe that the internet has been blocked or taken down by our own government, raise your hand. Not in your house, but in other countries this is certainly so. The most recent overt action of a government doing this was Russia blocking, controlling, and taking down the Republic of Georgia's internet.

[exponent]

In my opinion, Olympia Snowe is a closeted Nazi sympathizer.

[Raider]

Hard to believe we would ever consider giving control of the internet to the President, especially when you consider his history of drug use and pattern of stupidity....

Unbelievable.

[ordersomething]

Forget the politics for a second.
Under what law(s) does ICANN operate?
Does anyone have jurisdiction over them?

[sdsinc]

Originally Posted by Raider

Hard to believe we would ever consider giving control of the internet to the President, especially when you consider his history of drug use and pattern of stupidity....

Unbelievable.

You could be right.

[zurc.net]

Originally Posted by Raider

Hard to believe we would ever consider giving control of the internet to the President, especially when you consider his history of drug use and pattern of stupidity....

Unbelievable.

George Bush is still President?

[Raider]

Originally Posted by zurc.net

George Bush is still President?

The Liberals sure seem to think so, Every time Obama does something stupid or blows through hundreds of Billions of our tax dollars, They always revert back to Bush... Go figure.

[H2FC]

Originally Posted by Raider

Every time Obama does something stupid or blows through hundreds of Billions of our tax dollars, They always revert back to Bush... Go figure.

Exactly...and as it should be. It was Bushs' lack of responsibility that resulted in all of our financial problems in the first place.

If the republicans had acted responsible Obama wouldn't likely be President now. Stupid Bush and his greedy self-serving republican supporters are the reason why it was necessary to spend so many of our tax dollars to keep our economy from a complete collaspe.

I agree its time now to stop the spending but I also understand why it was necessary.....and unlike you, I also understand why the republican party was soundly defeated.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by H2FC

Exactly...and as it should be. It was Bushs' lack of responsibility that resulted in all of our financial problems in the first place.

If the republicans had acted responsible Obama wouldn't likely be President now. Stupid Bush and his greedy self-serving republican supporters are the reason why it was necessary to spend so many of our tax dollars to keep our economy from a complete collaspe.

I agree its time now to stop the spending but I also understand why it was necessary.....and unlike you, I also understand why the republican party was soundly defeated.

This post alone is proof of how amazingly stupid you really are.... Like the mortgage crisis had nothing to do with it, It was all Bush's fault right?.. LMAO.

It's not even worth a rebuttal.... Besides, it's the wrong section to do it in.

[Nexus]

Originally Posted by ordersomething

Forget the politics for a second.

Impossible. Largest grudge match in history. Everyone thinks their "guy" or "gang" is infallible... or at least better than the other side. Yawn. Demonize, Obfuscate, Scandalize, Rinse, Repeat. It would be funny if everyone was in on the joke.

Originally Posted by ordersomething

Under what law(s) does ICANN operate?
Does anyone have jurisdiction over them?

Well. Here's what we should all be aware of I think...

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is a non-profit corporation located in Marina Del Rey, California tasked with managing the logistics of Internet Protocol (IP) addresses and domain names. Created in September 1998, ICANN took over these duties previously served by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA). As recently as September 2006 ICANN renewed its agreement with the U.S. Department of Commerce (DOC) to continue in this capacity.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-icann.htm

The context of ICANN's relationship with the U.S. government was clarified on September 29, 2006 when ICANN signed a new Memorandum of Understanding with the United States Department of Commerce (DOC).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICANN

MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN
THE U.S. DOC & ICANN
http://www.icann.org/en/general/icann-mou-25nov98.htm

A. DOC has authority to participate in the DNS Project with ICANN under the following authorities:

(1) 15 U.S.C. § 1525, the DOC's Joint Project Authority, which provides that the DOC may enter into joint projects with nonprofit, research, or public organizations on matters of mutual interest, the cost of which is equitably apportioned;

(2) 15 U.S.C. § 1512, the DOC's authority to foster, promote, and develop foreign and domestic commerce;

(3) 47 U.S.C. § 902, which specifically authorizes the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) to coordinate the telecommunications activities of the Executive Branch and assist in the formulation of policies and standards for those activities including, but not limited to, considerations of interoperability, privacy, security, spectrum use, and emergency readiness;

(4) Presidential Memorandum on Electronic Commerce, 33 Weekly Comp. Presidential Documents 1006 (July 1, 1997), which directs the Secretary of Commerce to transition DNS management to the private sector; and

(5) Statement of Policy, Management of Internet Names and Addresses, (63 Fed. Reg. 31741(1998) (Attachment A), which describes the manner in which the Department of Commerce will transition DNS management to the private sector.

Interesting articles:
Feds renew contract with Net oversight body
http://news.cnet.com/Feds-renew-cont...3-6106417.html

Verisign, Inc. v. ICANN
http://www.icann.org/en/general/litigation-verisign.htm

Personally, regarding the bill... to me... it seems infantile to attempt to connect a bill in congress to the "desires" of the President, or critique thereof, unless said president actively supports the specifics of a particular bill. Three branches of government. Executive, legislative, and judicial.

I am concerned that we're not doing enough to prepare for an electromagnetic pulse attack on our infrastructure though. It sounds like the warnings on 9/11 all over again. I mean, replace the con artists in Ocean's 11 with terrorists, and "emergency control of the Internet" be damned (cause it won't matter).

~ Nexus

[zurc.net]

Originally Posted by Raider

This post alone is proof of how amazingly stupid you really are.... Like the mortgage crisis had nothing to do with it, It was all Bush's fault right?.. LMAO.

It's not even worth a rebuttal.... Besides, it's the wrong section to do it in.

Lol, nothing can be directly set on one person, but your sig is incredibly ridiculous...

Iraq war was a HUGE mistake and a WASTE trillions of dollars ~ I know it may not seem like it because it came from the Precious Cocaine, Alcoholic "Christian" and anything he does is because of his great "Christian Belief"...

President G.W. Bush - No Domestic Terrorist attack since 911... I ignored my predecessor when he presented me with these threats thinking, "We are America God damn it, nothing can touch us and if they do, all my buddies and I will profit greatly!" And gee whiz, I look like a hero to all these close minded idiots... "Hey Dick, lets go torture some innocent person, get some prostitutes and do lines off of the weapons of mass destruction with our kids... "George you know there are no weapons of mass destructions, you just wanted to kill your daddy's rival, lets just go play golf or go shooting"

Please change your sig asap... because as ridiculous as the above may be to you, its more appropriate then what you currently have there...

[Nexus]

Originally Posted by zurc.net

Lol, nothing can be directly set on one person, but your sig is incredibly ridiculous...
Iraq war was a HUGE mistake and a WASTE trillions of dollars ~ I know it may not seem like it because it came from the Precious Cocaine, Alcoholic "Christian" and anything he does is because of his great "Christian Belief"...

Suggestion: Let's assume both of your perspectives are irreconcilable. I don't think either of you can convince the other, so what say we veer more towards the topic instead? Does emergency powers matter? Is this bill anything other than a distraction, considering it is sponsored by a Democrat & a Republican.

Copy of the bill (Text):
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...-111s773is.htm

Copy of the bill (PDF):
http://www.politechbot.com/docs/rock...aft.082709.pdf

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.773:

Considering it was introduced on April 1st, it just seems like a bad joke. CNET was able to elicit a response from Jena Longo, deputy communications director for the senate commerce committee, saying:

The president of the United States has always had the constitutional authority, and duty, to protect the American people and direct the national response to any emergency that threatens the security and safety of the United States. The Rockefeller-Snowe Cybersecurity bill makes it clear that the president's authority includes securing our national cyber infrastructure from attack. The section of the bill that addresses this issue, applies specifically to the national response to a severe attack or natural disaster. This particular legislative language is based on longstanding statutory authorities for wartime use of communications networks. To be very clear, the Rockefeller-Snowe bill will not empower a "government shutdown or takeover of the Internet" and any suggestion otherwise is misleading and false. The purpose of this language is to clarify how the president directs the public-private response to a crisis, secure our economy and safeguard our financial networks, protect the American people, their privacy and civil liberties, and coordinate the government's response.

~ Nexus

[Raider]

Originally Posted by zurc.net

Please change your sig asap... [/SIZE]

Uh, NO.

I was going to take it down on the anniversary of 911, but I now decided to extend it.

[broe-foe]

Originally Posted by Raider

This post alone is proof of how amazingly stupid you really are.... Like the mortgage crisis had nothing to do with it, It was all Bush's fault right?.. LMAO.

It's not even worth a rebuttal.... Besides, it's the wrong section to do it in.

Your roots are in a third-world country, right?

[Raider]

Originally Posted by zurc.net

I ignored my predecessor when he presented me with these threats

You Libs make me laugh... You throw out vague crap like this, that can mean almost anything, and then when your called on it, you either duck it or run away like a coward. Anytime you want to debate what led up to 911, you go visit the political section and we can have at it, OK fool?

Originally Posted by broe-foe

Your roots are in a third-world country, right?

Yes, what does that have to do with it?

[Gregcyber]

Big Gulp: A group of humans that rely on the words of another.

Obama: A leader that blames his mistakes on others.