China vaults past USA in Internet users

[bwhhisc]

Originally Posted by Domagon

Means non-latin character IDNs, such as Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc, are worth having in a portfolio...

Most all the good IDNs are taken, but many of them are available on the resale market in all price ranges.

Traditional (as in A-Z; 0-9 chars) domains will continue to endure and grow in value, but the international element, as in IDNs, can't be ignored any longer - non-U.S. internet users now far exceeds the number of U.S. users.

Ron

Very good advice. Worth grabbing at least a few good generic ones while prices are reasonable.
DCG suggested members here to add some IDNs to their portfolios back in 2006. I think very few took the advice.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Jeffreyw

According to Guiness, Japan is second to the US with the number of millionaires. But that was in the mid 1990s.

A million dollars isn't worth much when a watermelon costs $15.

Originally Posted by james2002

It is no wonder considering China's population.

Population isn't everything, especially in a trade like domaining.

The number one chinese domain forum already got twice the membership base on DNF, and Dnf.com is for the entire english speaking population in the world, which is like 1billion people if you consider english as second language.

http://domain.cn

Threads: 424,536
Posts: 3,681,921
Members: 105,123

[bwhhisc]

Originally Posted by touchring

The number one chinese domain forum already got twice the membership base on DNF, and Dnf.com is for the entire english speaking population in the world, which is like 1billion people if you consider english as second language.

http://domain.cn

Threads: 424,536
Posts: 3,681,921
Members: 105,123

Wow, that is a bunch. What do the Chinese domainers think of International Domains Names, as well as the ICANN rollout of idn.idn that is happening later this year?

[touchring]

Originally Posted by bwhhisc

Wow, that is a bunch. What do the Chinese domainers think of International Domains Names, as well as the ICANN rollout of idn.idn that is happening later this year?

Here's the direct link to the forum:
http://domain.cn/club/

[invincible]

so, now nobody will say that Q is the non premium letter

[bwhhisc]

Originally Posted by touchring

Here's the direct link to the forum:
http://domain.cn/club/

How about a little help with translation, or maybe a quick summary.

A good number of idn.com, idn.cn, etc. up for sale in their marketplace forum?

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by bwhhisc

How about a little help with translation, or maybe a quick summary.

A good number of idn.com, idn.cn, etc. up for sale in their marketplace forum?

Well, I would have thought you at least would have mastered dumping URLs into Google Translate!

[Banned: domain newbie]

half of the Internet is not viewable from China, they are probably curious so and browsing all the time

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by domain newbie

half of the Internet is not viewable from China, they are probably curious so and browsing all the time

Frankly, I am not sure they would be that interested. The BBC make a big fuss about this, but I have had a good look at most of their offerings in foreign languages and most of it is a lot of condescending self-centred crap that I really could imagine the locals being even vaguely interested in. Yes, there are issues but I wouldn't imagine that most Chinese have problems accessing the majority of stuff they would be interested in other than perhaps Porn, which after buying Chinese goods a Walmart seems to be the main stay of the US economy at the moment.

[Banned: domain newbie]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Frankly, I am not sure they would be that interested.

really? if you would see this shot half the time you browsing tru pages, wouldn't you be interested and just keep going until you find out whats there and why is this blocked, if you have any intelligence and natural human curiosity sense left

they don't just block porn, but informative content too, which they classify as "security threat"


they also block any sites related to Tibet, Olympics protests around the world, crime is rarely publicized - i have no idea what they can see there from the screen- probably directories of wholesalers only allowed

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by domain newbie

really? if you would see this shot half the time you browsing tru pages, wouldn't you be interested and just keep going until you find out whats there and why is this blocked, if you have any intelligence and natural human curiosity sense left

they don't block just porn, but informative content too, which they classify as "security threat"

they also block any sites related to Tibet, Olympics protests around the world, crime is rarely publicized - i have no idea what they can see there from the screen- probably directories of wholesalers only allowed

The BBC foreign news service is mainly about what is going on in London. And that has nothing to do with censorship, because it applies to all other languages as well. The bottom line is the BBC cannot be arsed to do any really interesting research. Most of there stories these days seem to be Reuters syndications.

Claiming censorship is probably a lot easier than explaining indifference.

[nameslave]

Originally Posted by domain newbie

really? if you would see this shot half the time you browsing tru pages, wouldn't you be interested and just keep going until you find out whats there and why is this blocked, if you have any intelligence and natural human curiosity sense left

they don't just block porn, but informative content too, which they classify as "security threat"


they also block any sites related to Tibet, Olympics protests around the world, crime is rarely publicized - i have no idea what they can see there from the screen- probably directories of wholesalers only allowed

First off, VERY FEW Chinese people are comfortable with English, even the well-educated and Internet-savvy younger generation. That so-called "half of the Internet" (which by the way is probably in English) is of little relevance in terms of content and interest.

And if you are not aware of it, hundreds of thousands (if not millions) from China have stayed or are still living, working or studying abroad; so if you think the Chinese are ignorant of the outside world, think again.

I do agree that the Chinese government was stupid in kicking even the Hong Kong (now part of China) reporters out of Tibet; they are now suffering from the consequences of BIASED news coverage in the West. They asked for it. HOWEVER, large scale demonstrations IN SUPPORT of the Beijing Olympics e.g. the one with at least 5,000 participants if not more in Ottawa (that's the capital of Canada, for those who are curious) received little attention; on the other hand, those quasi-Tibetan protests with less than 500 (most of them just a few dozens, if not less) ALWAYS got their headlines.

By the way, if you think "crime is rarely publicized" in China, welcome to 1990s. I mean crime reporting has NOT been a taboo for more than a decade or two. HELLO!

[Rubber Duck]

When it comes to pumping twisted inaccurate information into the heads of its populous few nations can compete with the US.

When the "Slowdown" really starts to bite, perhaps people will start to wake up to the brainwashing that the Republicans have been propagating.

[BestBizDomain]

Originally Posted by domain newbie

really? if you would see this shot half the time you browsing tru pages, wouldn't you be interested and just keep going until you find out whats there and why is this blocked, if you have any intelligence and natural human curiosity sense left

they don't just block porn, but informative content too, which they classify as "security threat"


they also block any sites related to Tibet, Olympics protests around the world, crime is rarely publicized - i have no idea what they can see there from the screen- probably directories of wholesalers only allowed

Really?it seems that you are more familiar with our condition,are you living in China too?Just see this screenshot,I get no troubles to visit that site.

There is an old Chinese saying that goes like this "家丑不可外扬" which means "do not wash your dirty linen in public",Tibet has been part of China for hundreds of years,so this is inner issue.There exist the cultural differences between eastern and western societies,cultural varieties make the world more beautiful.Currently,We are aiming at economic development and do not want others to disturb.But some western media,for example BBC,CNN,etc,they make a lot of biased news,which lead you westerns to think in a wrong way.That's why Chinese government have to control the reporters.As we all know,media have guidance function.You get the news in their sight,and maybe you will think in their way.That's why some Chinese build anti-cnn.com.

Actually,Great Firewall does block some sites related with porn,politics,violence,sensitive contents.Like what I said above,social stability is what we persuit now.Those contents may mislead some people who will do something harmful to the society-that's we do not want to see,so there comes the GFW.But on the other hand,GFW sometime is really annoying.For example,Wikipedia had been blocked for nearly 3 years for some politics related entris.(Now the block to Wiki is removed)
But to sophisticated
surfers,proxy servers can solve these problems.

And there is also another Chinese sayings which goes like "隔岸观火","look on at other's trouble with indifference",if there were 1.4 billion people in your contry,just consider the food supply,employment,medical treatment,education,insurance,etc,maybe you would have the feeling that it's not so easy,because you have to remove prejudices from outers and resolve complains from inners,the only way is to develop yourselves.

BTW,as more and more Chinese touch the Internet,I think the domain market will make some differences,.cn domains are used more,many international companies use .cn domains in China's market.Chinese Pinyin .coms are welcomed and accepted by Chinese,not generic English words.But IDNs still remain uncertain,type 美女.com in address bar instead of meinv.com or beauty.com is inconvenient...LOL

[bwhhisc]

Originally Posted by BestBizDomain

But IDNs still remain uncertain,type 美女.com in address bar instead of meinv.com or beauty.com is inconvenient...LOL

Yeah, but which would you rather see on a huge roadside billboard in China?

美女.com
or
beauty.com

99%+ of the people in China can read and probably remember the TOP one.

Guessing that 90% of the people in China most likely can NOT read (let alone remember) the BOTTOM one.

IDNs are a bit of a no-brainer for the advertising agencies and marketing companies trying to reach the 80% of the world that does NOT speak or read any English.

People will see recognizable "words" attached to .com, or .idn and be able to remember them to go on the internet later and visit those sites.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by BestBizDomain

"家丑不可外扬" , "隔岸观火"

You gave me an idea. It is possible to build meaningful and easy to recall multi-word domains using chinese, but not in english.

These 2 idioms could well be domain names in chinese, but it would be impossible in english.

Take for example, 家丑不可外扬.com is ok while DoNotWashYourDirtyLinenInPublic.com sucks. The pinyin version also would not make it - JiaChouBuKeWaiYang.com.

[dnol]

China has some districts are richer than Korea ,Singapore.
Creditcards will like .cn domains,do you want to open a creditcard?

I have banxinyongka com means open a creditcard account

It will be valueble..right?

[Ebiz4india]

China, already the world leader in cellphone use, has surpassed the USA as the No. 1 nation in Internet users.

THIS IS AN GREAT NEWS. we all should be happy that countries/states other than USA are growing.


And by the way every country/state has some plus and minus points, and this thread is not about this at all.


Happy Domaining.

[nameslave]

Originally Posted by dnol

I have banxinyongka com means open a creditcard account

It will be valueble..right?

LOL! xinyongka.com will be great, but the word "ban" is not exactly a keyword you want as there are quite a lot of alternatives, like "banli". And the full term for that would be to "shengqing banli xinyongka zhanghu", not really something you would want for a domain, eh?