Domain Tools being purchased by TrafficZ

[lordbyroniv]

Originally Posted by petrosc

I think they are speculating that if domain tools was purchased based on revenue, 16 million is a quite a good deal for the buyer. Of course I personally have no idea of their revenue so i can't judge. Although they do seem to have a $5M yearly turnaround according to this: http://retireat21.com/top-young-entrepreneurs/

If the revenue was known then we could speculate whether it was a fair price

Without that piece of information - only the seller can know whether he got a fair price

I will have to assume that the FMV is reflected in this sale, buyer is reasonable, seller is reasonable, hence this price is reasonable, otherwise the price wouldnt be what it is

[denny007]

Although they do seem to have a $5M yearly turnaround according to this

There is written NETWORTH $5M not turnover...

[sashas]

this will start another .sc landrush

[lordbyroniv]

Originally Posted by sashas

this will start another .sc landrush

Whats .sc ?

south carolina?

[jaydub]

Seychelles...
Although when DomainTools was whois.sc it often was referred to as "source"

[nitronet]

If Trafficz buys domaintools they can kiss their parking business goodbye.

Nobody I know would park with them with all the private data domaintools divulges to lawyers and TM owners.

Why would anyone pay for just data, to be sure Jay will keep a copy of everything and simply start again once his non compete is over.

Trafficz seems desperate to try to catch up with Domainsponsor, Hitfarm and the other companies with rapid expansion, but buying a business that will make their base parking business extinct is plain stupid.

[Fearless]

Originally Posted by lordbyroniv

If the revenue was known then we could speculate whether it was a fair price

Without that piece of information - only the seller can know whether he got a fair price

Bongo


Do the guys that are saying the price is way under value have inside knowledge or are you just appraising this deal like you appraise domain names?

[gingeman]

reg fee +/-

[NameCharger]

Originally Posted by NavySeals

Google's data mining and tracking is worse and far more advanced than even the US Gov's shot at trying to mine data.

I think that's an apples/oranges comparison. The US Gov has sovereignty to packet sniff. Remember Carnivore - DCS1000? This technology first appeared over a decade ago.

Today, I envision US Gov supercomputers that analyze & decrypt in real time every inbound/outbound packet sent from any computer to a FCC-licensed ISP.

[stewie]

is anyone getting these emails from Domain Tools now????
email subject

Registrant Alert for 2008-07-31‏

listing a few of my domains??? what the heck are these???


how the heck to you contact them?

thx

[DotComGod]

I get the too, sometimes they are alarming as it makes you think your domains have been stolen. They also add every name you register on that particular email address.

-=DCG=-

[aZooZa]

A sale for millions would probably crash at the due diligence phase if the lawyers and accountants acting for the purchaser do their job properly. Repackaging and selling 'whois' data is blatant copyright infringement. I'm surprised Nominet's lawyers haven't been in touch with them before now.

Do you know anyone that would be happy for you to 'scrape' or steal their proprietary data and sell it on?

I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

[sdsinc]

Originally Posted by aZooZa

I'm surprised Nominet's lawyers haven't been in touch with them before now.

Do they scrape and store whois for uk domains ?

[aZooZa]

Originally Posted by sdsinc

Do they scrape and store whois for uk domains ?

Kate, my 'scrape' comment was really an analogy, but they are building their huge database by storing the results of 'our' type-in queries and then offering the cumulative data for resale. If that contains .uk domain information, in my opinion they are breaking copyright law.

[wmloz]

Originally Posted by aZooZa

Kate, my 'scrape' comment was really an analogy, but they are building their huge database by storing the results of 'our' type-in queries and then offering the cumulative data for resale. If that contains .uk domain information, in my opinion they are breaking copyright law.

Why do you think they are breaking copy right law? Isn't it public information much like you can go to hcad.org and see what property I own, my taxes, etc? Anybody can access hcad.org and simply put a name in to see what they own.

Why would it be any different for domains?

[aZooZa]

Originally Posted by wmloz

Why do you think they are breaking copy right law? Isn't it public information much like you can go to hcad.org and see what property I own, my taxes, etc? Anybody can access hcad.org and simply put a name in to see what they own.

Why would it be any different for domains?

Typical whois terms of use:

TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois
database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and
automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or
modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry
Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for
information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information
about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not
guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide
by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only
for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data
to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation,
repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly
prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to
use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or
query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register
domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right
to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensure
operational stability. VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to the
Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign
reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.

In respect of my comment regarding .uk domains and Nominet:

You may not access the .uk WHOIS or use any data from it except as permitted
by the terms of use available in full at http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois, which
includes restrictions on: (A) use of the data for advertising, or its
repackaging, recompilation, redistribution or reuse (B) obscuring, removing
or hiding any or all of this notice and (C) exceeding query rate or volume
limits. The data is provided on an 'as-is' basis and may lag behind the
register. Access may be withdrawn or restricted at any time.