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**Rubber Duck** · 12-26-2005, 05:02 AM

Over a quarter of a million subscriptions wiped out yesterday!

Merry Christmas Affilias.

**GFX^^** · 12-26-2005, 12:56 PM

250,000 subscriptions??? wow congratulatins ,info :p

**Leading Names** · 12-26-2005, 01:56 PM

This is old news.

If you give away so many registrations (for free or practically free) obviously the majority will be dropped come renewal time.

Not unexpected and most defiantly not an indication of the extension taking a "dive", as you put it.

- Rob

**dodo1** · 12-26-2005, 02:26 PM

Yes, I really like .info and I think this TLD has a lot of potential. The domains which have been deleted were probably bad keyword domains like c-o-m-p-u-t-e-r.info that were registered when the registrars started to offer .info at lower fees. So I would not say .info has lost its existing popularity.

**Rubber Duck** · 12-26-2005, 02:49 PM

I entirely agree that dot info will maintain some popularity. It is a sound extension, but to suggest that it will seriously challenge the supremacy of the original TLDs in the near future is wishful thinking.

Dot Info would be much stronger now without that crazy give away. All it has done is to create uncertainty and undermine the value of the extension.

Affilias would have been much better advised to focus on the roll-out of IDN. The registery has been blatantly mismanaged to the detriment to all involved.

Those with good dot info should, however, hold tight as the worst in now nearly over!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

**sdsinc** · 12-26-2005, 04:13 PM

Some cleanup is a good thing in order to get rid off the junk.
BTW of course it does not mean .info is declining. We have seen some very nice .info sales recently.

**gpmgroup** · 12-26-2005, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsinc

Some cleanup is a good thing in order to get rid off the junk.
BTW of course it does not mean .info is declining. We have seen some very nice .info sales recently.

Funds.info €18,750 = $22,247 last week

**Gee** · 12-26-2005, 06:23 PM

.info is not a good extension and will get only crazy customers who like to register their domain at all major extensions

I have been in this industry for more than 4 years and

I see .com .net .org only

and I won't register or buy any other ext unless I am very disappointed

**gpmgroup** · 12-26-2005, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotasale

.info is not a good extension and will get only crazy customers who like to register their domain at all major extensions

I have been in this industry for more than 4 years and

I see .com .net .org only

and I won't register or buy any other ext unless I am very disappointed

find.net (sedo) €5,100 = $6,000
find.biz (sedo) €9,000 = $10,630

**Rubber Duck** · 12-26-2005, 06:47 PM

So the seller of find.net sold far too cheaply, it happens.

**gpmgroup** · 12-26-2005, 06:55 PM

DN Journal Weekly sales in 2006 should be interesting I believe there are to be 3 sections

1) .com
2) .info .net .biz & .org
3) ccTLDs

**Rubber Duck** · 12-26-2005, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpmgroup

DN Journal Weekly sales in 2006 should be interesting I believe there are to be 3 sections

1) .com
2) .info .net .biz & .org
3) ccTLDs

That would seem to be a long overdue rationalisation.

Thanks
Dave Wrixon

**StockDoctor** · 12-26-2005, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwrixon

Affilias would have been much better advised to focus on the roll-out of IDN. The registery has been blatantly mismanaged to the detriment to all involved.Best Regards Dave Wrixon

Dave, I wonder how many other people are looking at your posts on whatever unrelated topic and scanning for how you tie in this IDN stuff. Sheesh already.

**gpmgroup** · 12-26-2005, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwrixon

I entirely agree that dot info will maintain some popularity. It is a sound extension, but to suggest that it will seriously challenge the supremacy of the original TLDs in the near future is wishful thinking.

Dot Info would be much stronger now without that crazy give away. All it has done is to create uncertainty and undermine the value of the extension.

Affilias would have been much better advised to focus on the roll-out of IDN. The registery has been blatantly mismanaged to the detriment to all involved.

Those with good dot info should, however, hold tight as the worst in now nearly over!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

Hmmm A tadge harsh

The give aways started in September 2004 at which point there were
1,233,000 .info's even after the latest round of drops there are around 2,350,000 .info's.

The registations have been pretty strong since the start of the free promotion
http://www.chart.info/stats16.htm

A million more registrants and good week on week increases...
So all in all it looks like a good marketting ploy for Afilias afterall.

**actnow** · 12-26-2005, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotasale

.info is not a good extension and will get only crazy customers who like to register their domain at all major extensions I have been in this industry for more than 4 years and I see .com .net .org only -
and I won't register or buy any other ext unless I am very disappointed

I guess that is why there is more than one flavor of ice cream. If an ice cream
company only offered vanilla, they would be out of business.

If you don't like .info's then ignore them.

If you like them then buy them.

Are info's my first choose? No.
Do I register and buy them? Yes.

Will they increase in value? Yes.
Unless, Icann permits a lot of new tlds. In which case, it will injure all of the other
tlds by confusing users (visitors).

**adoptabledomains** · 12-26-2005, 07:54 PM

A fair amount of the free .infos were actually chosen, and many will be dropped as people just experimented to see if the freebies would get any traffic or maybe make a sale. I would guess the bulk of the drops as mentioned in this thread are the stupid ones that enom/sipence register on behalf of people who didn't even want them of existing com/net names, which I think was close to 1 million in just a couple weeks last year.

I myself took advantage of the freebies for some decent names. However, I don't believe I've kept any of the enom/sipence names that I did not pick.

BTW, I sell just about as many (maybe more) .infos as I do .com's. You just have to realize what the market will bear and not ask the same as you would for a .com. The right generic .info domains are as developable as net/org if not better in many cases. Trouble is, people who register and expect to sell non-generic names in anything but .com have an uphill battle.

**mole** · 12-26-2005, 08:00 PM

It's about time the .INFO namespace was cleared of all those low quality .INFO free giveaways.

.INFO is an interesting namespace to work with, especially if you are building a keyword set. Speculators may not see the resale value as readily as .COM, but developers have other objectives like URL relevance to content and solid keywords besides just 'curious type-in'.

**Rubber Duck** · 12-27-2005, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stocdoctor

Dave, I wonder how many other people are looking at your posts on whatever unrelated topic and scanning for how you tie in this IDN stuff. Sheesh already.

Yes, well 6 months ago I was about the only person on here that knew what an IDN was. Take a look at the Domains Wanted Column now. I make no apologies for that.

IDN is a huge issue. It not comparable to the the free give away in dot be, which by comparison is a bit of freek show.

Within 5 year at least 1 domain in 3 will be an IDN and they could even outnumber conventional domains.

None of this means that dot us is going to be adversely affected and neither should any of the establish gTLD registeries, provide they go with the action.

It does not mean that those who felt the projected quadrupling of registrations worldwide would significantly bump up the value of the portfolio of English dot coms are going to be disappointed. This, however, would merely be the deflation of unreasonable expectation, which appears to be already well established.

You may not understand, but there are at least a dozen domainers on this forum that understand very well and stand in awe at what I have managed to register.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon