Are expired domains now at the disposal for registrars?

[Rubber Duck]

Yes, and even on this Forum there seems to be great resistance to even permit open debate on the subject!

The only way to improve the situation is for Domainers to migrate registrars that behave properly and put their Client's interests first. This would be highly significant as often End Users end up using the same registrar as the domainer from which they purchased their domains. I certainly prefer to push mine on transfer, which means Domainsite.com pick up a lot of new Client's this way!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

[JMJ]

And it's this sort of negativity that could again give our industry a bad name. We are just now on the horizon of being considered an industry instead of a bunch of "cybersquaters." When those who control the wheel start driving like maniacs eventually they will crash and burn. That is unless someone else takes ahold of the wheel. :-D

[Rubber Duck]

Totally disagree. Its poor service and a lack of any professional code or standards that give the industry a bad name, not informed debate!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

[JMJ]

Totally disagree. Its poor service and a lack of any professional code or standards that give the industry a bad name, not informed debate!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

Thats what I'm referring to Dave.

[Validweb]

Can anybody post their best examples of great domains which expired and were then kept by the registrar (or a company associated with the registrar), instead of going to one of the dropping companies(pool, snap, enom) for auction?

What would be useful to know is which registrars have a policy of offering all their expired domains to a dropping company, like Moniker claims to do in this thread, and which registrars don't have such a policy.

Another question is what the registrar's agreement with the dropping company requires. Is Moniker, for example, by the terms of its agreement with Snapnames, required to offer all of its expired domains to Snapnames, or is this something that Moniker simply chooses to do.

thanks

[katherine]

I have had one issue with Enom on femmefatale.org.
They have renewed the name last month upon expiry and are keeping it to themselves.

The whole story here:
http://www.dnforum.com/f26/my-name-v...light=vanished

[MonikerMan]

Moniker is not required to offer all of its expired domains to any drop service and every one of our customer's have the option of opting out of having their domains picked up by a drop service prior to being deleted.

It is not a requirement, it is complimentary service we offer to our customers so that they have the ability to secure some of the most valuable domains being deleted.

Moniker does not keep expired domains unless there was a payment issue with the previous owner or a domain dispute. All other domains are deleted and released to the public or registered through one of the drop services.

[Domagon]

Ah yes, this thread certainly brings back memories of the NSI Domain Name Policy List ... these issues have been discused ad finitum.

Registrars possess domains, not registrants.

If one has a super-valueable domain, here are some helpful tips:

1. Keep the Whois information current and registration paid - obvious and will forestall most potential domain loss problems.

2. Register it as a name server and associate other domains with those name servers - I'm not sure how well this method works these days, but back in the NSI days, such expired domains persisted for seemingly ever.

3. Register a trademark(s) for the 2nd level portion (or entire thing, if applicable) ... and publicize such a trademark(s), etc on the various pages that the domain points too ... that way if it expires, any prospective registrant with a clue will avoid it; is easier to file UDRP recovery / lawsuit actions

A registrar is basically immune to most issues, such as UDRP, etc ... however, when a registrar, even if only briefly, acts outside the bounds of a registrar, such as selling the "expired" domain to say Snapnames and/or profiting from such sale in some way, their business MAY be potentially liable for some damages in some limited instances ... not sure if this has ever been tested ... registrars are not totally above the law, though they're pretty darn close :(

Ron

[touchring]

I'm starting to realize that the best way is to renew 3-5 years at a go for any domain worth more than $1000.