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    Grandfathered .CN domains

    From Neulevel:

    GRAND FATHERING OF THIRD LEVEL NAMES

    CNNIC has implemented a Grand Fathering policy to allow existing
    registrants of 3rd-level .CN domain names to secure their 2nd-level .CN
    name equivalent. For example, the registrant of mydomain.com.cn will
    have the opportunity to secure mydomain.cn prior to the March 16th
    launch. THIS POLICY IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO THIRD LEVEL NAMES REGISTERED
    PRIOR TO DEC. 6, 2002. The Grand Fathering process will occur between
    Jan. 6th and Feb. 28th 2003.

    If there is only one version of the third level name e.g..
    mycompany.net.cn this applicant will qualify for the Grand Fathering
    process. If there are two or more third level names with identical
    strings but different 2nd level extension (e.g. mycompany.net.cn ,
    mycompany.org.cn and mycompany.com.cn) the applicant with the earliest
    creation date will qualify for the Grand Fathering process. If two or
    more registrants have the same creation date the selection will be done
    randomly by CNNIC in presence of a Notary Public.

    CNNIC have already sent PIN codes to all three contacts listed for
    particular third level domains. Registrants must contact one of the
    domestic Registrars with their PIN code in order to submit an application
    to CNNIC. Applications for the same registrant with the correct PIN Code
    that are submitted through different registrars will be treated on a first
    come first served basis. A final selection of all grand fathered names
    will be done on Feb. 29th and these names will not be available for
    registration on the March 16th go live date.

    IF ELIGIBLE THIRD-LEVEL OWNERS CHOOSE NOT TO GRAND FATHER INTO THE SECOND
    LEVEL SPACE THE EQUIVALENT SECOND LEVEL NAME WILL BE AVAILABLE ON A FIRST
    COME FIRST SERVED BASIS ON MARCH 16TH.

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    Thanks for the post Mark. Quite a few people have been wondering about this.

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    Yep, we we all wondering about that !
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    Originally posted by chinewang
    If you have .com.cn,you can register .cn now.
    .cn is the best,.cn=.com+.net
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    bidawinner

    chinewang..thats interesting as just yesterday I posed that asa hypothetical..

    Could Icann come March..give a "sunrise" on .CN to those who have the .com.cn !...

    http://dnforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14810

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    The ONLY thing I have been wondering about..what if in March the powers that be have a "sunrise" for owners of .com.cn !

    if you own mysite.com.cn..what if they give those owners say 15 days to grab the mysite.cn ? !

    Not saying they will..just something for consideration.

    Unlikely...but..makes you wonder.."

    Are YOU saying that this is how it IS going to work ?

    And how do you know this? are you able to point us to any verifying links?


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    Mark can we reg them at Dotster ?

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    Will will have our .cn landrush site available next week. I will post here when it is operational.

    Regards,

    Mark......

    P.S. There is also a list of reserved names as follows:

    · Country names, 3-letter and ISO3166
    · Chinese Government organizations and leaders' names
    · Names that are for National Security
    · Province and City names
    · Special telephone numbers. (001), etc.
    · All gTLD's and some 2nd level spaces (biz.cn, kids.cn)
    · Certain famous trademarks (about 350)
    · Names labeled by the UN to promote world culture, heritage.
    · Chinese Universities and Colleges
    · News Media as approved by the National News Office

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    Hey Mark - lets say I have a true .CN name *reserved* aka *pre-ordered* somewhere right now. The .COM.CN version is NOT taken. Are my odds pretty good of getting the true .CN name?

    This is a very important question for me personally - and probably a few others as well.

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    NamePopper: I would think your chances are good as long as all three third level domains are not taken (com.cn, net.cn, and org.cn) and it doesn't turn out to be one of the reserved words.

    Mark......

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    Yeah Mark - all 3 are not taken. Any tips or particular source to check whether it's a 'reserved' word?

    Thanks again for providing the board with your posts!

    By the way - if you want me to send you the domain (pm) I will be happy to.

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    Thanks for the heads up, Mark.
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    If I have abc.net.cn (not abc.com.cn) , can I apply for abc.cn ?
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    Re: Grandfathered .CN domains

    Originally posted by MarkMitford
    THIS POLICY IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO THIRD LEVEL NAMES REGISTERED
    PRIOR TO DEC. 6, 2002.
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    Bummer, isn't it? But maybe the registrant will forget or miss that email on this grandfathering scheme. There is still hope.
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    So, what's the specific policy for claiming your .cn if you have a .com.cn name?

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    Originally posted by URLtrader
    If I have abc.net.cn (not abc.com.cn) , can I apply for abc.cn ?
    Yes, you can but it must be registered before 6 Dec 2002 and you must the first one to registered abc.net.cn if .com.cn and .org.cn are registered too.

    If you want to register abc.cn on 16 March, you don't need to own abc.net.cn or abc.com.cn or abc.org.cn.

    What Mark posted is about priority registration for those who have registered third level .CN and want second level as well.
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    Originally posted by DomainGoon
    So, what's the specific policy for claiming your .cn if you have a .com.cn name?


    Quoting Mark's post above should answer your question.
    CNNIC have already sent PIN codes to all three contacts listed for
    particular third level domains. Registrants must contact one of the
    domestic Registrars with their PIN code in order to submit an application
    to CNNIC. Applications for the same registrant with the correct PIN Code
    that are submitted through different registrars will be treated on a first
    come first served basis. A final selection of all grand fathered names
    will be done on Feb. 29th and these names will not be available for
    registration on the March 16th go live date.
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    People were asking about our landrush site: it has been up for a little over a week but most of the bids will take place this week.

    Bidding ends at 1pm PST on the 14th so don't be late

    www.cnauctions.com

    Also the availability check doesn't currently show names that are reserved or grandfathered. The registry is telling us we will have that functionality some time next week.

    Mark......

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