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**DomainEngineer** · 11-18-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke

That's what they are counting on. I'm sure we all feel the same way, but they aren't leaving us any options but to fight.

Ron,

Please keep up the great work you are doing for all of us.

I am posting again today to STOP the ICANN's crusade against domainers.

Please post daily.

Thanks.

**Duke** · 11-18-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rickkumar

Ron,

Please keep up the great work you are doing for all of us.

I am posting again today to STOP the ICANN's crusade against domainers.

Please post daily.

Thanks.

GeorgeK, who has been watching ICANN carefully for years, deserves the credit for spotting the danger in these contracts and blowing the whistle - as well as for staying on top of the tactics they are using to try to sneak this through. At another forum, George pointed out a post on the ICANN board from another veteran ICANN watcher, Bret Fausett, that noted another reason they are trying to rush this through so fast: http://forum.icann.org/lists/alac/msg02455.html

It is also good to see some of the major domain companies have started funding a non profit group that has taken up the fight on behalf of domain owners, with it's own Washington, D.C. based legal counsel. It will take everyone working together to protect the rights of domain registrants. There are lots of people out there who want to take away what you have earned through your own hard work, research and investment over the years.

**DomainEngineer** · 11-18-2006, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke

GeorgeK, who has been watching ICANN carefully for years, deserves the credit for spotting the danger in these contracts and blowing the whistle - as well as for staying on top of the tactics they are using to try to sneak this through. At another forum, George pointed out a post on the ICANN board from another veteran ICANN watcher, Bret Fausett, that noted another reason they are trying to rush this through so fast: http://forum.icann.org/lists/alac/msg02455.html

It is also good to see some of the major domain companies have started funding a non profit group that has taken up the fight on behalf of domain owners, with it's own Washington, D.C. based legal counsel. It will take everyone working together to protect the rights of domain registrants. There are lots of people out there who want to take away what you have earned through your own hard work, research and investment over the years.

Agree. Very well said.

Thanks.

**BidNo** · 11-18-2006, 02:59 PM

This is starting to looking very bad. There are only a couple days left for effective public comment and only a dozen or so have voiced an objection.

Don't let this go unchallenged!

If you are a member of this forum, you should be sending an email stating you oppose the .BIZ, .INFO, and .ORG contracts as written.

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Domainer response has been abysmal. I can hear ICANN now as they award monopolies and lock in annual price increases, "these contracts were modified in response to public input and are now being approved with only minor public objection."

I would think any inputs would have to be received NLT Monday (or Tuesday at the latest) to have any impact.

* bump*

**Bob** · 11-20-2006, 01:30 PM

stuck - no need to bump now.

**Ian** · 11-20-2006, 02:12 PM

Sent an email as well! We need to stop ICANN!

**Duke** · 11-21-2006, 12:30 AM

Only about 24 hours left to protest these contracts. Made it the lead item in our November newsletter that is going out to over a thousand people tonight. It has also been posted online:

http://www.dnjournal.com/newsletters/2006/november.htm

**taboo** · 11-21-2006, 01:31 AM

ICANN is dispensable! As I consider the Internet a Utopian society, bureaucrats shall be slain.

**tekz999** · 11-21-2006, 02:34 AM

Email sent!

**BidNo** · 11-21-2006, 04:02 PM

Thanks to those who have sent email. However, domainer response appears less than sufficient. Here's the latest from ICANN:

"....[A]a delay in a vote is not justified....A conclusion that differs from council member advice doe not indicate the Board "ignored" the advice."

Any doubt this is being railroaded? The org contract doesn't even expire until 2009! There are now less than five hours for YOU to send one email that may permanently change the face of the internet by awarding essential monopolies with significant increases in fees.

If you haven't done so, get off your duff and send an email to revised-biz-info-org-agreements@icann.org (and then acknowledge as requested).

You can simply state:

"I am opposed to these contracts as written."

or

"I am opposed to approval of these contracts without additional time for public input."

There are no requirements on age or country of origin. If YOU do not act, expect the consequences.

BidNo

**maxo** · 11-21-2006, 04:59 PM

Email sent

**Acro** · 11-21-2006, 05:27 PM

I'm not surprised they squeezed that right before a long Thanksgiving weekend to avoid the immediate backlash.

**BidNo** · 11-21-2006, 11:20 PM

Thanks everybody. Keep them coming (vote is tomorrow).

We've managed to muster around 100 emails in opposition (none in support) in spite of the abbreviated time for comment, ICANN's site being down one of the few allowed days, and a vote scheduled right before a major US holiday.

If (when?) ICANN approves it will be against the explicit request of their own policy committee, in advance of findings from their own "independent" expert, and in the face of unanimous public opposition.

The question will be undeniable: if all these constituencies are opposed, whose interest is ICANN serving?

* note: cross-posted due to the importance and urgency.

**Togoodhlth** · 11-22-2006, 03:00 AM

I tried every hour or so for about 9 hours to get to access the icann boards to no avail.
It's an absolute joke the way they run things.
Oh, wait you already know that.

**mulligan** · 11-22-2006, 03:09 AM

email sent

EDIT
Just to say I emailed these guys from a gmail account about an hoUr ago and am still waiting for a confirmation email.
After about 15 minutes I sent them an email from one of my domain email accounts and got a reply to confirm within 5 minutes.

They not accepting emails from free email accounts?

Just to let you know..

**Acro** · 11-22-2006, 11:08 AM

I do hope that they push the wrong button today. These guys need to step down.

**Acro** · 11-28-2006, 02:58 PM

Any updates on this? Any meeting notes, decisions etc?

**Duke** · 11-28-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Acroplex

Any updates on this? Any meeting notes, decisions etc?

I understand that ICANN board meetings are closed affairs and that matters discussed and decisions made are usually not known until the minutes are published (usually a week or so later) on the ICANN site: http://www.icann.org/minutes/. I sure would hate to see what kind of situation we would have if they weren't so dedicated to transparency.

**Duke** · 11-30-2006, 10:32 AM

It appears that ICANN has delayed a decision on controversial new contracts for the .org, .info and .biz registries until their next meeting Dec. 8 in Sao Paolo, Brazil. The contract proposals were on the agenda for a Nov. 22 meeting, but the ICANN website now has them relisted on the agenda for the Dec. 8 meeting. In addition, a rundown of adopted resolutions from the Nov. 22 meeting makes no mention of the contract proposals which had been almost unanimously opposed in hundreds of public comments posted to the ICANN message board. If approved, the contracts would pave the way for dramatic price increases for domain registrants at a time when the cost of providing registry services is actually falling.

The delay gives people who have not already done so a new opportunity to post your objections to the contracts here: http://www.icann.org/announcements/a...nt-24oct06.htm