ICANN: New gTLDs to launch Q1 2010

**gpmgroup** · 05-08-2009, 12:02 PM

http://www.icann.org/en/announcement...07may09-en.htm

The comment analysis and redlined Guidebook sections will be published in time for discussion at the Sydney meeting. The third version of the Guidebook is scheduled to be published in early September; the comment period for that version will close after the ICANN meeting in Seoul (25-30 October 2009). This timing enables the publication of the final Guidebook and following a communications period, the acceptance of applications in the first quarter of 2010.

**.h2o.** · 05-09-2009, 08:25 PM

The two domain extensions worth investing in, in my honest opinion, are .sco for Scotland and .web. For all those who think .web is a poor man's .net well, that's your opinion. However, we live in WEB 2.0 not NET 2.0 We hire WEB designers to make our sites pretty not NET designers.

**Banned: broe-foe** · 05-09-2009, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by .h2o.

The two domain extensions worth investing in, in my honest opinion, are .sco for Scotland and .web. For all those who think .web is a poor man's .net well, that's your opinion. However, we live in WEB 2.0 not NET 2.0 We hire WEB designers to make our sites pretty not NET designers.

I agree, .web could become important. Do you believe Chris Ambler and IOD should be awarded .web? They have a standing application pending since 2000, having been told back then by Dr. Vint Cerf that they weren't rejected, but rather their application was put "on hold."

**tekz999** · 05-09-2009, 08:50 PM

What gTLD are being proposed?

**carlton** · 05-10-2009, 02:48 AM

It's likely that the tld proposal will have been significantly changed, or delayed, as the complex issues having been raised by the majority have no solutions yet. To move forward without clear, comprehensive solutions would not be acceptable, and will lead to legal challenges.

**Seraphim** · 05-10-2009, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by .h2o.

The two domain extensions worth investing in, in my honest opinion, are .sco for Scotland and .web. For all those who think .web is a poor man's .net well, that's your opinion. However, we live in WEB 2.0 not NET 2.0 We hire WEB designers to make our sites pretty not NET designers.

If the .web pricing structure is on par with .com, it has the potential to be a major game changer in my opinion, especially in the long term. Anyone with significant holdings in .net, .org, and .info, should be highly concerned about this extensions launch.

I didn't touch, .mobi, .eu, .asia, or .tel, I would however feel inclined to drop at least a few grand into .web. I'll catch flack for saying it for sure, but .web makes more sense than .com. Short for website, it should have been one of the first extensions to launch.

**katherine** · 05-10-2009, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Seraphim

I'll catch flack for saying it for sure, but .web makes more sense than .com. Short for website, it should have been one of the first extensions to launch.

I am under the impression that people confuse 'the Web' with 'the Internet'.
Domain names are not just about WEBsites, there is E-mail, FTP, SIP and many other Internet services around them.
Or do you want a .email TLD too ?

I just don't understand the fascination with .web and I think many people will continue to get burnt with new TLDs in the future

**Seraphim** · 05-10-2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by sdsinc

I am under the impression that people confuse 'the Web' with 'the Internet'.
Domain names are not just about WEBsites, there is E-mail, FTP, SIP and many other Internet services around them.
Or do you want a .email TLD too ?

I just don't understand the fascination with .web and I think many people will continue to get burnt with new TLDs in the future

So in your mind, email, FTP, and SIP are more closely associated with the term "commercial", than "World Wide Web" or "website"? That doesn't make any sense at all.

The fascination with .web is that it works. It's more universal and all inclusive than anything out there now. As you yourself pointed out, most online entities are multifaceted. Strip away mind share from niche oriented extensions such as .com, .net, .org, and .info... and suddenly 85% of the world's websites are using an addressing platform outside of it's intended purpose.

I think you were the same person that got on my case the last time I touched this subject. For the record I'm not pumping .web, but I'm sure as hell not going to pump .com either. Millions of people are currently using pina colada garnishes as beach umbrellas, myself included... economics aside, I thought all domainers were well aware of .com's inherent flaws.

**katherine** · 05-10-2009, 12:01 PM

The real issue IMO is whether any these new TLDs are going to be adopted by mainstream businesses and consumers. If not... then they will be the next virtual wastelands, regardless of our own particular preferences.

**Seraphim** · 05-10-2009, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by sdsinc

The real issue IMO is whether any these new TLDs are going to be adopted by mainstream businesses and consumers. If not... then they will be the next virtual wastelands, regardless of our own particular preferences.

Agreed, well out of our hands. With .web it would be a big IF stretched over the long term. Was simply sharing my take on it, which is I've never been able to say "Wow, from a web development or brand perspective, that extension does look golden". To be able to say that is new terrain for me. I still wouldn't put five figures into it, I would treat it as a high risk fringe sort of investment.

Outside of .web, I could see local gTLDs having some low level appeal. I have not heard of or seen anything else that looks promising. .xxx maybe... still looks like an error url / blotted out word to me though.

**seeker** · 05-10-2009, 04:54 PM

.web sounds good, but it will not reach nor touch .net IMHO
C/N/O are ages ahead.

**Acro** · 05-10-2009, 05:54 PM

Hopefully a worldwide swine flu outbreak will prevent the ICANN morons from going forward with this.

**NostraDomainus** · 05-10-2009, 06:24 PM

.flu would be an appropriate new extension atm and for the future imo. Could possible save the Planet (to be overly dramatic).

.sco is a limited self-interested minority extension, as many similar political struggles in the World exist and do not warrant their own extension At Least Until More Globally Productive Extensions are released. How about .abo in recognition of Aboriginals still being marginalized the World over by greedy self-centered righteous capitalists?

.web is like putting 1 + 1 together to = 2
It makes sense and is already intuitive to Web Surfers. .tel is a joke. .mobi is going to go the way of the dodo bird imo, as ubiqtuous computing and seamless technology interaction will make platform specific extensions obsolite in their purpose of only housing one platform.

Always fun to speculate thou!

Best of Luck adn Succss in All Your Endeavours!

**Leading Names** · 05-10-2009, 07:02 PM

I think .sco has legs – assuming they don't go with .scot as their website sort of suggests. .sco sounds and looks decent, .scot looks crap and sounds lame. The only problem with .sco I can see is that with a population of just five million, not sure there would be enough registrations to sustain the fees/costs required to run the registry.

I don't see the potential in .web or the rest – no need or demand for them. Shame bloody ICANN doesn't/won't recognise this but hey, not like ICANN have a good record when it comes to common sense.

- Rob

**damitssam** · 05-11-2009, 02:03 AM

I see a few working:

.movie - if jay heavily regulates it to the studio giants, and only film makers... but thats assuming he is not greedy and doing a "public service" unless he charges the studios an assload of fees

.sco - would act as a de facto cctld, might work... wales could be another place but i dunno what they could use.

The rest i see no need for really...

**ksinclair** · 05-11-2009, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by tekz999

What gTLD are being proposed?

Are there any 'city' TLDs proposed?

**Honan** · 05-11-2009, 03:14 AM

"it is anticipated that applications for new top-level domains will be accepted starting in the first quarter of 2010. "

It is my understanding that anyone who wants to risk the deposit of $50k plus can apply for any 3 plus letters as a new top-level domain ( TLD )
If more than one application is received for the same TLD, then it goes to a panel and the loser loses their deposit
If only one application is received for a certain TLD, and it is rejected on whatever grounds including technical, the applicant loses their deposit.

ICANN should do very nicely from it
Some applicants who get their desired TLD may profit from selling to corporates or Governments

Domainers will probably join landrushes and throw their money away like they have in the past with, .mobi. .info. .ws. .cc and others

It is unclear to me if expletives will be allowed as TLDs
Anyone know?

**katherine** · 05-11-2009, 04:20 AM

Icann opened a can of worms by approving .cat.
If Catalunya can have its own TLD, why Scotland could not ?

Originally Posted by I Sold Grandma

Domainers will probably join landrushes and throw their money away like they have in the past with, .mobi. .info. .ws. .cc and others

I'm already seeing flocks of lemmings jumping off the cliff

**ftaylor** · 05-11-2009, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by Leading Names

I think .sco has legs – assuming they don't go with .scot as their website sort of suggests. .sco sounds and looks decent, .scot looks crap and sounds lame. The only problem with .sco I can see is that with a population of just five million, not sure there would be enough registrations to sustain the fees/costs required to run the registry.
- Rob

Scotland has a population of 5 million, but many millions upon millions more around the world claim a Scottish heritage.

I also disagree, I think .scot is better than .sco. http://www.dotsco.org.

Originally Posted by damitssam

I see a few working:
.sco - would act as a de facto cctld, might work... wales could be another place but i dunno what they could use.

.cym anyone?

**kevmacmeh** · 05-11-2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by NostraDomainus

.sco is a limited self-interested minority extension, as many similar political struggles in the World exist and do not warrant their own extension At Least Until More Globally Productive Extensions are released. How about .abo in recognition of Aboriginals still being marginalized the World over by greedy self-centered righteous capitalists?

Scotland can (and hopefully will) become independent in 2010 so it will need its own extension. Have a look at the dotsco.org website for more details.

There are millions of Scottish people dotted around the world who would love an extension like this. You might be interested to hear that 15% of your country's population are made up of Scots-Canadians

Not to mention the millions of Scots-Americans. Actually, there are more Scots-Americans than native Scots. If your up to speed on your history you will find that 23 American presidents have Scottish descent

So yeah, I think a Scottish tld is fully warranted. Many Scots dont consider themselves British and so wouldnt want to use .co.uk to promote their business. And I think Scottish people and business's will actively use the extension because every Scotsman has a motto

"If it's not Scottish, its crap"