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Old 08-13-2004, 04:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

Anyone have an opinion or advice on these? Will they work, are they just more marketing hype from Verisign, are they worth anything, great investment, waste of money, will/won't work with email servers, etc.

I have a few and I'm wondering if it's a great investment, or great waste.

http://www.idnnow.com/index.jsp
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Old 08-13-2004, 09:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

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Anyone have an opinion or advice on these? Will they work, are they just more marketing hype from Verisign, are they worth anything, great investment, waste of money, will/won't work with email servers, etc.

I have a few and I'm wondering if it's a great investment, or great waste.

http://www.idnnow.com/index.jsp
Strange. This is my first time hearing about it and from my understanding
"Internet Users >>
Download the free i-Navâ„¢ plug-in. The i-Nav plug-in enables users to navigate the Internet..."
Users need the plug in to navigate to these new "internationalized domain names". Hmmmm.
I'll take the " Just more marketing hype from Verisign " for 300 Alex....(sorry I just watched Jeopardy)
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Old 08-13-2004, 10:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

Well, that's one of my thoughts on this, but there is a legitimate consortium that is promoting the interest of these names throughout world - without the plug-in, and actually configured at the server level. Some say it has legs; others say it will never happen. Just wondering from some of the more knowledgable tech folks here at DNF if this is possible (involves 7-bit, 8-bit, and 16-bit encoding).
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Old 08-14-2004, 04:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

Currently, most browsers except for IE, support IDNs natively (no plugin needed).
Next version of IE is supposed to supports IDN natively as well.
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

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Currently, most browsers except for IE, support IDNs natively (no plugin needed).
Next version of IE is supposed to supports IDN natively as well.

I was going to mention that too.In countries where they're actually used,browsers are already optimized.I think IDN's will remain intresting curiosities in the US for at least another year or so,while overseas they'll continue to quietly flourish.Then we'll start seeing larger and larger reported IDN sales on DNJournal (like the two this week) and eventually the rest of America will pay attention.
In a fantastic bit of news for myself and IDN exposure in general,I recieved an email this morning from Sedo saying my domain Diseño.com will be listed in thier Top Domains section.It will be in constant rotation on the Sedo homepage.It's the first domain I've ever owned to be invited into the Top Names section.
I'm not sure,but as far as I know,it's the first IDN to be listed there (not the paid featured column).I think it will begin appearing in rotation next week.I'm thrilled for my domain,I'm thrilled for IDN's.It's been a great week for them.
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

Hello,

Well we have over 1500 domains, and couple hundred of them are non-dot-COMs such as .us, .info, (and about 25 are .net, .org, and .biz together).

We have been acquiring domains since about late 1997/early 1998.

Frankly, even though we own about 200 non-dot-COMs, but in my view they will never match the King i.e. the .COM

So getting back to the orignal question in this post, I personally don't think any other kind of domain will ever be able to catch up to the .COM

But if you can get your hands on a great IDN or any other extension (except new.net type extensions), go ahead and get few.

With time they may eventually be worth something.

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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

so it seems likely that there will be browser support for websites based on IDN's, but what about email servers - will they also be able to route email based on IDN's? If not, what will it take to get IDN's up to speed with email servers?
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

I think at the moment as the plug in support is not that spread, it is a waste of investment. Stick with the COM and other popular extensions.
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

IDN's are available in .COM.
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Old 08-15-2004, 10:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

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IDN's are available in .COM.
What he said.
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Old 08-16-2004, 04:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

If anybody has any German generic IDN domains with the tlds .com, .net, .de, .at, .ch please send them to me and include your asking prices.

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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

I have loads of IDN's. They will kick in next year, or a little later when MS release the compatible browser.

I also have one on Sedo's Top List

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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

would you mind sending me a list to nicorav (at) yahoo.com with your asking prices?

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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

Nico;

I'll send you a list but pricing I'm not 100% sure of, as thier true value will be next year. But see how you go!

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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

I prefer Chinese IDNs... Although the Chinese people currently prefer pinyin domains (using the English language) because they have been using them since the creation of domains, I believe characters will catch on. They are better for advertising, and are easier for non english speakers to relate to.
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

Its the same for any foreign language really, will be good for their local advertising to have their company name in their language.
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www.ẫ.net http://xn--xkg.net to check it out, you can use the xn--xkg.net. I made it a free http://yourname.ẫ.net site!
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www.ẫ.net Single character domain is real cool.. ..
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Re: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN's)

I think the 1 word .com's in all language's using IDN will be the most valuable. The german spelling of 'Books' sold for quite a packet earlier this year.

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I'm not sure what lanuage www.ẫ.net is. I think China, but dillpupp has www.ẫ.com. He sold 2 - 1letter .coms to China for 3K each.
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