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Old 08-08-2008, 04:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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it was on dnjournal, so must be real I guess.
definitely a lucky seller there.
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:59 PM   #22 (permalink)
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A combination of keywords may have 100000's of search results on Google but it doesn't mean they all the traffic lands on that very domain.

Monitization an all is a different story either you need typin traffic here, which i am sure is not enough to justify the projected sale price.

I have job/jobs onmobile[dot]com & had couple of offer on them but they were all in mid $xxxx, with one of the offer been from a famous job portal, so instead of being a .com if it fetches that less I logically can't expect an end buyer to pay that big amount for a .info




Please let me share with you where I agree and disagree, and we can agree to disagree....lol!!

Keep in mind the end user need may justify the purchase, especially as I already pointed out they are most likely backed by a VC if they are paying $12g's on info, or just a real dumb person possibly.

I can assure you though the .info was less then the .com ...lol! common sense write.

Maybe some of you aren't aware of what a VC is. VC = Venture Capital = bunch of old guys with excess money to though at projects that make them millions of dollars, and if they don't it is a tax write off.


I understand many of you may be naysayers just because some of the online industry is not tangible to you yet, as well as you may have tunnel vision or blinders for domain parking only. Theirs many ways to skin a cat in this industry, I can certifiably tell you the top of the food chain is not parking a domain name even if it is 30,000 domain names.

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Funny, when I was reading my response back to myself before submitting this thread and decided I needed to erase most of it.
I realized to many of you their are many aspects of online business that are still unknown factors, so even if I explained it you may not be able to understand the hows and whys and it would take this thread in a total different discussion and stray away from the subject. As well as most of this info I deleted are trade secret's that would of inevitably cut my own throat by sharing these secret's not realizing what I was writing as I was doing it.

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A combination of keywords may have 100000's of search results on Google but it doesn't mean they all the traffic lands on that very domain.
I will say you are correct if you look at this with blinders or tunnel vision, once you learn how to pull the blinders off, you may understand why this number is important among other important variables not being mentioned in this thread.

I wish not to impugn you, please understand and I would be willing to share my thought offline just to you only. If your in the USA we could even do it over the phone and you can get your questions out. I'd even call you on my dime, so please don't take offense.


Sometimes written translation is easily misunderstood versus spoken. <-- This actually goes for all of you in this thread. I am not judging or putting anyone down, there's just things being over looked.
I will sign out by saying I personally would never spend $12,000 on this .info unless I had a good business plan to back it up, Im not talking about parking either, but offering a product or service if I was being backed by a VC for help branding.

I am just trying to help you guys understand that this amount is not far fetched, and or doesn't have to be a scheme to bump up the market value of a .info. Things dont always have to be a conspiracy. I personally see validity to this being sold for $12,000

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This is no traded secret and you should already know this, but if you don't there is an ALARMING amount of people with out jobs in America. Helping people find jobs is a very lucrative market currently.


I also have done my fare share of research on this subject since being asked to join the team that is developing http://employeetube.com 3 months ago, You will see some new technology for the next generation of online resume's and online job interviewing, There's two other companies racing with us to see who gets it released first and who's technology is better, I guess only time will tell wish us luck
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
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.com .net owned by the same co and developed.
.us owned by a job agency
.biz for sale not as good as .info in my opinion
.org undeveloped and likely for sale. I also think .info fits better but it might have came down to the .org owner wanted more than $12k? Then again the buyer might have had the same mindset as me and thinks the .info is the better fit out of those available and never even considered the .biz or .org. No offers on the .biz at sedo so that one is safe to assume.
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Old 08-08-2008, 07:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I did no research at all. However, the sale for 12k CASH with no other consideration involved sounds bogus to me (Ron, I am not saying it is bogus and I know DNJ data is extremely accurate most all the time but it just seems like it could be bogus).

I will assure you the transaction was exactly as described.

All the information was verified.

Ron personally verified the data.
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:03 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I got a few better domains and I will be willing to sell at this price .
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Old 08-10-2008, 02:36 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I will assure you the transaction was exactly as described.

All the information was verified.

Ron personally verified the data
Could you please clarify. My concern is that it was an inside job, i.e., someone who has tons of .info wants to jack up the market prices, so he makes an agreement with a friend to make a bogus purchase.
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Could you please clarify. My concern is that it was an inside job, i.e., someone who has tons of .info wants to jack up the market prices, so he makes an agreement with a friend to make a bogus purchase.

Why would someone want to pay Sedo $ 1,200. in commission to artificially and momentarily pump up the market?

I told you that Ron thoroughly investigated this transaction.

And, I'm telling you that I also investigated it.

This transaction is exactly as described.

If you want to look for a conspiracy, please do so.
You have the right to your own opinion.

But, you are wasting your time.
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Old 08-10-2008, 02:58 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Could you please clarify. My concern is that it was an inside job, i.e., someone who has tons of .info wants to jack up the market prices, so he makes an agreement with a friend to make a bogus purchase.
Who really cares, a lot of members on this board are haters of other people I notice and there success.

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Does it hurt the value of your domain portfolio that a .INFO was sold for $12,000? Even if it was a shill bid or purchase how does it directly affect you? I dont understand, maybe I am late for the bus on this one.

Something like this helps the domain name market, who cares about the logistics on the how's and why's. Your not the one that got ripped off for $12,000 for a .INFO, so focus on the negativity and hating, instead of the positive aspects of this purchase.

FYI - For though's of you who are are domain parkers only for PPC. You cant loose with a .INFO $1.99 reg, oodles...oodles of top keyword phrases left for purchase in .info

I think the problem with the negative people here and why this is a hard concept to understand is becuase you have tunnel vission for domain parking only. Once the blinders come off you will see all the other ways this is a valuable name on the interenet even at though a .INFO for $12,000



Side note: Virtually imposible to not make an ROI on a $1.99 domain name, especially if it is one of the top keyword sets. No matter which whay you are using it, parking, landing, or developed.
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Side note: Virtually imposible to not make an ROI on a $1.99 domain name, especially if it is one of the top keyword sets. No matter which whay you are using it, parking, landing, or developed.
It makes a difference with the second hand market mainly, but what if someone starts buying out hundreds of domains based upon these sales.

Look I trust Ron and actNow also, but I'm not the only member here who thinks it's odd.

I'm still not convinced to run off and start buying loads of .info, more than the handful that I already have, so no difference to me.
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what if someone starts buying out hundreds of domains based upon these sales.
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I'm still not convinced to run off and start buying loads of .info, more than the handful that I already have, so no difference to me.
If someone makes a decision to jump the gun and reg or buy .info's based on this
one transaction, they deserve what will happen.

You don't base a business strategy strictly on one or a couple domain sales.
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Old 08-10-2008, 04:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Side note: Virtually impossible to not make an ROI on a $1.99 domain name, especially if it is one of the top keyword sets. No matter which way you are using it, parking, landing, or developed.
I wanted to add to this,

Side note: Thus you guys are really missing the bus if you continue to ignore hand registering or aftermarket .info names.

Worst example of generic .info I have registered recently and I know my worst equals some peoples best in this business, I registered 18-Jul-2008 20:37:36 http://partyjumpers.info , at about 4 days of being live on the net I earned my first $0.47, for the past 11 days I have earned $1+ up to $4+/- each day with an average of $2+/-, virtually 90% + all organic traffic. I was indexed on 1st and 2nd page in Google for most viable keyword phrases in less then 2 weeks. I've been to busy to check the other search engines to see where I am. By the looks of Google Analytic I am indexed in every major search engine.

I also push products on PartyJumpers.INFO and have made some commissions.

Google Analytic Stat's

Me personally .COM's are for development and flipping, all other extensions are traffic nets used to redirect traffic and monetizing.

This is my worst example of a generic .INFO. ,no need to convince you guys further by showing one of my good example generic .INFO domains. It just hurt's my earnings, and gives you guys bright ideas. Continue to look down on the good generic .INFO it's probably better for me and others who understand. I am going to have a $1,000 year off this lame generic this $1.99 domain name KEYWORD - Party Jumpers.

Take a look at "party jumpers" in estibot tools or your favorite overture type tool of your choice.

Compare mine "Party Jumpers" agaist "Jobs Online" with Google Insight. You see how well mine is doing, I can imagine how the "Jobs Online" .INFO will do.

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Old 08-11-2008, 02:46 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Obviously somebody thought it was worth $12,000, .info fits the extension and is highly underrated in the Americas whereas europe/east tends to see the potential.

Many of the comments here seem to smack of simple jealousy- nothing new then!
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Keep in mind the end user need may justify the purchase, especially as I already pointed out they are most likely backed by a VC if they are paying $12g's on info, or just a real dumb person possibly.
No way... a VC firm would never allow a company they funded to purchase a name like this.

However though...no price is unreasonable IMO when an end user buys a name. If the seller played a hard bargain and the buyer wanted the name bad, then it's ok to assume that it climbed to 5 figures.
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Obviously somebody thought it was worth $12,000, .info fits the extension and is highly underrated in the Americas whereas europe/east tends to see the potential.

Many of the comments here seem to smack of simple jealousy- nothing new then!
Hey maybe your right. I wish I could sell my .info's for that price!
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Very high price..but that's the beauty of domain names. It was probably an end-user that bought the domain name.
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Old 08-12-2008, 03:42 AM   #36 (permalink)
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The sale shows that .info is picking up.

Since it sold on sedo and reported on dnjournal.com, we can safely be assured it is a legitimate sale.

Some .infos have been commanding good prices. Last month backpacks.info sold for $4,520.

All I know is that I have been selling my .infos for too cheap.

As for the the buyers out there, we should snap them while they are still cheap.
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Envy, envy, envy...

Why the heck I can't sell that high!?!?! Arrgh...
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Old 08-17-2008, 12:17 PM   #38 (permalink)
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The skepticism here is overdone. Most of you are undervaluing .info and the online jobs market. However, there are other reasons the domain sold for that amount pertaining to the unavailability of higher quality keywords. "Jobs Online", itself, is a pretty powerful keyword combination.

Better quality keyword combo's in other leading extensions will increasingly trump lesser keywords in .com. Not in every case, but in significant numbers.
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Actually, if I wanted online information about any jobs going, I might very well put this info the address bar. To me jobsonline.com would be a larger, less specific site with all kinds of information about jobs - how to get them, the best ones to go for, and so on, but not necessarily a list of actual jobs available that I could apply for.
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Old 08-17-2008, 05:27 PM   #40 (permalink)
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i agree allround i feel the appraisers are killing it for us domainers , i feel that jobsonline.info is a good domain..... and if any appraiser had it they woundnt say it was worth 500.00 , they would of took the money and ran to the bank.....
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