LLLL.com's prices going down....?

[VTEC]

Originally Posted by Michael_Goldman

I agree with Acro that better quality LLLL's would give you better chance to find end users and more buyers.

Yes, but the bad quality ones will also grow, and I think that the minimum price of them will go up to ~$100 in 4-6 months. Every day there are more and more people getting into the "domain business", they have heard a lot about the value of LLLL.com's from other people/websites, mostly eBay's auction description, where people are using Reece's website as an example of the value of LLLL.coms' . and at the beginning not everyone has the money to buy a premium " triple quattro " LLLL.com, so they are going for the cheapest ones and are willing to pay this what is/was suggested by someone else, because it can't go lower.

Everyone is talking about NNNNN.com's value, this number is good and this number is bad and everything is compared to Chinese numerology. Ok, so let's look at LLLL from the Chinese site....there internet users grow is mostly visible in China, and the mostly used letter in China is…. "X" (?) so why a name like qxyq.com doesn't have a value, or won't bring the same % profit n 6 months time as a CVCV ?

[Yaadoo]

I've always said LLLL.com will eventually go down, and I think it will for crappy ones at least. It might start going up a bit very slowly though. Enough to pay for reg fee maybe. Meaning like an Increase of $7 a year.

But good ones like Nice prounciables or like like Quad Premium. I think they still got doubling potential in the next year. Heck if they tripled, I wouldn't be shocked.

[rkbdomain]

I have two posts up regarding the development of 100 random LLLL.com's and 100 random NNNNN.com's. It is interesting to see how many LLLL.com's are developed sites (24%) and what a random sample of those sites looks like, and compare it to the NNNNN.com's (46%), which were recently bought out. Assuming the random samples are representative, both types of domains are more developed than I would have thought.

[Compassion]

By end 08 start of 09 I anticipate 90 -100 base for all crap llll.coms

Is this increase in value or inflation of the dollar?

Just today, Alan Greenspan suggested to Arab nations to dump the dollar.

No joke, google news it.


By 2012 llll.coms may be 200 -300 min for crap, but will it be an increase in value or a sign that the US paper money is worth less and less?

In other news. Canadian Dollars back to over 1.02.

[Acro]

On what basis do you anticipate that range, or did you simply pull these numbers the way one would play lotto?

Random - or as others say, "junk" - letter LLLL .com's are expected to drop en masse, after several large portfolio holders fail to flip these hard to monetize names. We just have to wait a few months to a year (several thousand names were registered for 2 years).

Want to invest in LLLL .com's ? Be very picky. Get good letters or old domains (older than 3-4 years at least).

[Compassion]

Originally Posted by Acroplex

On what basis do you anticipate that range, or did you simply pull these numbers the way one would play lotto?

Random - or as others say, "junk" - letter LLLL .com's are expected to drop en masse, after several large portfolio holders fail to flip these hard to monetize names. We just have to wait a few months to a year (several thousand names were registered for 2 years).

Want to invest in LLLL .com's ? Be very picky. Get good letters or old domains (older than 3-4 years at least).

I don't think that many LLLL.coms will drop in the next two years. Many people bought in bulk, but of course several will drop. I do not think any llll will diminish below a 60 dollar drop pick up by 09

The in flux of new domain name enthuisiasts combined with the rest of the world utilizing .coms for their business solidifies my $90 -100/each bottom end in one year statement.

[Acro]

Exactly how do you come up with that "2012" and "$300 for crap" figure?

When I want to cite random stuff, I throw a 12-sided dice.

[OSHQdotCOM]

The guys who scooped up tons of crappy LLLL.coms will not let them drop. It costs $7 to renew them and they can sell them right now for a minimum of $50 each. It makes no sense to let any of them drop.

[Acro]

The guys who scooped up the poop will let it drop, because no-one buys poop except for ignorant domainers who live in llll (la la) land and are in denial(llll). There is an abundance of (tens of thousands) of LLLL .com domains which are being treated as l(llll)olipops. Sorry to bust just another bubbl(llll)e.

[OSHQdotCOM]

You cannot be that ignorant. Who buys 3 letter dot coms? People in LLL(ALA) land? You must be craaaaazy to spend $6,700 on QZX.

Sure, there are 26x as many LLLL.coms, but the market is so enormous - with new investors entering each day - that no one in their right mind will let LLLL.coms drop.

The price has hit a temporary plateau in terms of growth rate, but it will not go back down. Worst case scenario is that junk LLLL.coms hit a 0% growth rate for a month or two, but then they will slowly start to rise in value.

The people who predicted $xxx by 2009 are not puling numbers out of their ***, they are making intuitive speculations in terms of value according to historical trends (but factoring in that exponential growth rates are not going to continue so quickly). If prices rise by just 10% per month, the bottom of the barrel LLLL.coms should hit $100 in roughly 6 months in terms of reseller pricing.

When is the last time a domain's value has gone down? The trend always is upward. The question is not: "When will the market pull a Tom Petty? (Free Fallin')" it is, in fact, "Holy crap, why have you not invested in LLLL.coms?"

[Acro]

Full disclosure is needed: how many LLLL .com's do you own and how long ago did you register them?

If it's more than 50 and less than 1 year, you're a fanboi; hence, biased.

I sold my 1st LLLL .com in 2000.

Speculation is good, but to compare 3 letter .com's with 4 letters, is just plain stupid.

Why are diamonds more expensive than gold? Because they are rare.

The total number of 4 letter combinations is 456976. The 3 letter combinations are 17576 - 30 times less.

$6,700 for QZX .com ? Try $8k and you'd still need to pay the escrow fee.

Apparently you have no idea what constitutes a trend and what is a pump.

[rkbdomain]

Originally Posted by Acroplex

Full disclosure is needed: how many LLLL .com's do you own and how long ago did you register them?

If it's more than 50 and less than 1 year, you're a fanboi; hence, biased.

I sold my 1st LLLL .com in 2000.

Speculation is good, but to compare 3 letter .com's with 4 letters, is just plain stupid.

Why are diamonds more expensive than gold? Because they are rare.

The total number of 4 letter combinations is 456976. The 3 letter combinations are 17576 - 30 times less.

$6,700 for QZX .com ? Try $8k and you'd still need to pay the escrow fee.

Apparently you have no idea what constitutes a trend and what is a pump.

But given that about 25% of LLLL.com's are already developed websites, and more are being developed every day (especially in the Chinese market), it seems to me that the upward pressure on prices should continue, or at least there should not be a major drop in prices. I'm not invested in the LLLL's, I've invested in the NNNNN's, but I don't see a major price drop coming for the LLLL's simply given the fact that many of these are already developed websites and end-user sales continue to bring in very high payouts.

[OSHQdotCOM]

I know the difference spikes and long-term trends, but to think LLLL.coms will go down (at all) in value is ludicrous.

I am a very active LLLL.com trader. Yes, I jumped on the LLLL.com bandwagon right when the market starting spiking and yes that was a very smart maneuver. LLLL.coms have been a blessing for me over these past few months.

I know for certain that historical spikes will not continue, but you cannot say that LLLL.coms will decrease in value. They simply will not.

[gooster]

Originally Posted by rkbdomain

But given that about 25% of LLLL.com's are already developed websites

Bollocks.

I can potentially see the best CVCV.com and premiums continuing to rise due to there being end user potential. But for those of you with ZXQX.com type LLLLs, I'd sell ASAP.

[dcristo]

Originally Posted by OSHQdotCOM

I know the difference spikes and long-term trends, but to think LLLL.coms will go down (at all) in value is ludicrous.

I am a very active LLLL.com trader. Yes, I jumped on the LLLL.com bandwagon right when the market starting spiking and yes that was a very smart maneuver. LLLL.coms have been a blessing for me over these past few months.

I know for certain that historical spikes will not continue, but you cannot say that LLLL.coms will decrease in value. They simply will not.

Perception is everything and over the next year or so if there are not many solid LLLL.coms sales, then why couldn't the value drop as the reseller market tightens up? Look at LLL.info for example, going by your logic all domains increase in value. That's just one example.

[rkbdomain]

Originally Posted by gooster

Bollocks.

I can potentially see the best CVCV.com and premiums continuing to rise due to there being end user potential. But for those of you with ZXQX.com type LLLLs, I'd sell ASAP.

But as I see it (and again, I am not a LLLL investor so I may be completely off) those letter types are actually really good in the Chinese market which is the fastest growing segment and which is already developing a lot of LLLL's that we westerners view as junk letters.

[OSHQdotCOM]

LLL.info sucks because there are only a handful of .info domains worth anything close to their .com/.net/.org counterpart. I only speculate domains in terms of the "top 3" TLDs.

LLLL.com is only going up.

[dcristo]

Originally Posted by OSHQdotCOM

LLL.info sucks because there are only a handful of .info domains worth anything close to their .com/.net/.org counterpart. I only speculate domains in terms of the "top 3" TLDs.

LLLL.com is only going up.

There is probably only a handful of crappy LLLL.com which will be worth anything close to their premium LLLL.com counterparts

[Compassion]

and acro were you serious when you said diamonds are rare?

I hope not.

Diamonds are as common as cow sh$t

Seriously though 90 -100 bottom by end 08

by 2012 200-300 bottom, largely in part to inflation, stagflation and deflation.

[OSHQdotCOM]

Originally Posted by Compassion

and acro were you serious when you said diamonds are rare?

I hope not.

Diamonds are as common as cow sh$t

Seriously though 90 -100 bottom by end 08

by 2012 200-300 bottom, largely in part to inflation, stagflation and deflation.

You are absolutely correct. I think your estimates might even be on the low end .