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Old 12-06-2007, 02:09 PM   #101 (permalink)
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sorry for posting from another forum mods, but turns out (if this guy's story holds up) that bidders no. 2 and 3 were fake and were just driving up the prices for Alvaro, because they knew that another bidder (the one who won the original auction) had a highest bid of 611k.


Try and explain this one mobi lovers
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:10 PM   #102 (permalink)
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It's speculative so far, sashas. But it gives some insight to the byzantine scenarios at high-stake auctions.
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LOL RG, that'd be the .mobi registry.
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I don't know why I bother wasting my time here.

Good luck to all in the domain industry.

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Old 12-06-2007, 02:32 PM   #106 (permalink)
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I agree with you.

I keep thinking about the business.com deal, I remember people talking bad about the deal many said, "I look for business at Yahoo or Google.. etc.." Then developed they business.com got a great return. Many of the people not in the .MOBI van were probably many people saying "Internet is not going to replace yellow pages, or email is not going to replace fax"...

I am sure my vision is shared by Verizon Wireless, or Nokia or ATT, or even AOL..:

One day people will rather go to bet on NBA games by going to: http://sports.mobi/nba rather than http://sports.com/mobileready/nba.html

How about a live cast via: superbowl.sports.mobi ///??

Or I see someone telling someone over the phone,: Hey get my photo at the beach at: "myname.photos.mobi" and not: flickr.com/mobile/user987K.html

Or I see the big studios purchasing: "thegladiator.movies.mobi" to promote their films over cell phones..

I could go on and on...

.MOBI like it or not will be like a new land where people are going to be building businesses.

I do respect everyones comments, even negative comments. I am sure the big domainers had the vision we all didn't have back in 1995.. Well in 2007 all of us investing in .MOBI should discuss this in 2010 or even before.

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sorry for posting from another forum mods, but turns out (if this guy's story holds up) that bidders no. 2 and 3 were fake and were just driving up the prices for Alvaro, because they knew that another bidder (the one who won the original auction) had a highest bid of 611k.


Try and explain this one mobi lovers
Sedo I have bought numerous domains for tens of thousands of dollars and I refuse to park them and make money off parking (Domain King you can do that and **** the internet up for all of us).


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One day people will rather go to bet on NBA games by going to: http://sports.mobi/nba rather than http://sports.com/mobileready/nba.html

How about a live cast via: superbowl.sports.mobi ///??
How about, when a cellphone visitor accesses sports.com, it redirects to mobi.sports.com ? Why do we need a separate TLD for device-specific content? In fact, most new web-enabled cellphones have browsers that render web pages exactly as a computer-based browser would do.
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I am sure my vision is shared by Verizon Wireless, [/url]
I don't think they are among the backers.
A consortium that includes Microsoft, Nokia and Vodafone is promoting “dotmobi” but others in the technology industry have voiced concerns. A senior lawyer at Verizon Communications, the second-largest US telecommunications group, said there was no “particular business need” for “dotmobi” and the company had only registered verizon.mobi to prevent others taking it.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/709fbdec-4...0779e2340.html
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Good luck to you Alvaro!

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I didn't think I was going to get to 6 pages when I started this thread... Thanks Guys, now I feel cool!
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Ohh..and let's see how many of the auctions actually get paid for
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I wonder what the fallout from this .mobi auction will be - has the potential to become a boondoogle - it's domaining wild west style all over again.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:36 PM   #114 (permalink)
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My thoughts exactly, but as you pointed out:
If you want and need specifics, go back and read the many threads regarding .mobi usage or even the points made previously in this thread.
One of the points I was making was that the TLD itself is going to take a long time before its both known and understood by the majority of people using the Internet.

At the moment something like games.mobi (per the thread going on, on the other forum) is probably worth something as the kiddies want to download java games onto their mobile phone. However, there is going to be lead time in:

a) educating the target market to type in .mobi instead of .com
b) getting them off their favorite .com site for mobile games.

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Just remember, "mobile" is a UK/Euro term; in the US it's "cell/cellphone/cellular". No wonder we don't share your enthusiasm.
In Australia its also mobile. America - its just you guys with your cells. If the TLD was .cell then the microbiologists would be all over it. I wonder who would own the rights to single.cell - is it a dating site?
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sorry for posting from another forum mods, but turns out (if this guy's story holds up) that bidders no. 2 and 3 were fake and were just driving up the prices for Alvaro, because they knew that another bidder (the one who won the original auction) had a highest bid of 611k.


Try and explain this one mobi lovers
You would have to indicate a specific domain. Bidders no 2 and no 3 were not fake if you are referring to Music.mobi and to my knowledge all the auctions.

The question that is coming up is bidders no 12 and 13 who entered the auction when the auction was extended after the black out.


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Try and explain this one mobi lovers
The only way it can be explained is if the mobi lovers reveal their numbers.

But I can assure you, that in any auction, personal financial information is of no one's business but the bidder(s).

And the countless bullshit bid shilling that goes on in every auction? Try and explain this one, domain lovers.
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Good luck to you Alvaro!

I have no use for sports.com. I think the site is awful and it is using the name for betting. It even says over 18s only! Is that what SPORTS is all about? BETTING?

How about all the other people in the world who want something different to sports.com? Is there only room for this 1 crappy sports website?

If I was served with mobi.sports.com I'd never visit the site ever again. JMO
Then I would go to Espn.com

Fact remains, as Acro said, the newer cell phones coming out can render a website in full, like pc browsers. So why would I go to an ugly page without graphics if I could go to a normal website?
Samsung is launching a phone that recognizes voice and turns it into text, and if they can perfect it, the problem of typing in will go away too.
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Good luck to you Alvaro!

I have no use for sports.com. I think the site is awful and it is using the name for betting. It even says over 18s only! Is that what SPORTS is all about? BETTING?

How about all the other people in the world who want something different to sports.com? Is there only room for this 1 crappy sports website?

If I was served with mobi.sports.com I'd never visit the site ever again. JMO
I think you missed the whole point. I only quoted Alvaro's argument that sports.mobi is better over sports.com/mobi/longurl.html

So why not, mobi.sports.com - why is there a need for an entire TLD to point to a simple subfolder/subdomain under .com or other existing TLD?

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In Australia its also mobile. America - its just you guys with your cells. If the TLD was .cell then the microbiologists would be all over it. I wonder who would own the rights to single.cell - is it a dating site?
"Just us" is the largest consumer-driven market in the world - until China takes over. So I see no reason why we should concede to the rest of the world. The Internet is still English-driven and America-centric. And that comes from me, a Greek national.
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Is that what SPORTS is all about? BETTING?
Uhh........ Yeah.
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Originally Posted by sashas
Try and explain this one mobi lovers

I bid on 4 auctions early on. More of less marking them. In many instances I was bidder 2 or 3. In one instance, I was bidder one. This allowed me to check the status of the auctions by simply clicking on Offers You Have Made link without going through the entire lineup.

I did not bid on any of these auctions indicated in this thread. Some I knew would get out of reach, out of hand.

I was not successful on any of my bids. And, yes, after my original proxy amount was reached, I had to enter new bids if I wanted to continue on.

Now, as I mentioned, I had place bids on 4 names, meaning I had x number of dollars to allocate amoung 4 names. As the auction went on, I then had to determine which ones I wanted to continue on with and which to drop out of. It ended up boiling down to chasing one. A strategy that sometimes works. Sometimes not. Because if you have your eye on the prize, then you may loose out on all.

So being that I was bidder 1, 2, or 3 and I ran up to my maximum amount but did not win, does that mean I was a fake bidder?

I just love the allegations made and expressed here. Does that mean every time I bid in a Sedo or Pool auction and win someone is a fake bidder against me? When I figure enough is enough and back out and lose, am I a fake bidder?

All of a sudden you and others are acting like this only goes on in a .mobi auction. What bullshit shallow thinking is that.

As for Sedo, I have had a total of 11 unpaid auctions in 2007, one currently running, one unpaid on Afternic. Each on was, SURPRISE! a .com.

So sashas, the only thing left to explain would be why you would refer to folks as mobi lovers which would infer that you are a mobi hater. That would seem to be the only thing left to explain.
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Doc, by bidders 2 and 3, I was referring to bidders 12 and 13 (or was it 13 and 14?) who entered the auction late and ran up the whole price. These guys entered the auction AFTER it had been closed at $66,000 and the first guy had won the name. When the auction reopened, these bidders, 12 and 13, entered the auction, bid it up to $600k because Sedo knew that the original winner had a highest proxy of 600k.

Doc, you'll agree that all this sounds highly highly fishy.

You might also want to check this out: http://mobi.music.us/

Look at the screenshot. Its bidder no. 12 and 13 were absent in the original bid. And these two bidders came in after the auction, drove up the prices.
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