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04-08-2008, 09:55 PM
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DNF$: 313 | Network Solutions Hijacking Unassigned Sub-Domains Interesting article on TechCrunch. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/04/08...d-sub-domains/
This happen to anyone here? I learned a long time ago to avoid Network Solutions like the plague.  |
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04-08-2008, 10:00 PM
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Name: John Last Online: Today 04:51 PM Join Date: Jun 2006
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Country: | Wow. Until the frontrunning thing, I didn't know Network Solutions was so unethical. If I owned a Netsol name, I would be sending a Cease and Desist immediately. Quote:
Originally Posted by Beast |
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04-08-2008, 10:02 PM
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Name: Michael Last Online: Today 05:06 PM Join Date: Aug 2007
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DNF$: 600 Location: Maryland
Country: | Wow, NetSol never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for the link.
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04-08-2008, 10:16 PM
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DNF$: 1,718 Location: Bay Area
Country: | whoever at netsol had that evil idea should be banned from the biz for life |
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04-09-2008, 12:24 AM
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Country: | Hmm, is there anything written in their TOS saying that customers will abide by their advertisements on unassigned subdomains? |
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04-09-2008, 12:59 AM
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DNF$: 3,269 Location: my home is where my bank account is
Country: | is there anyone still uses netsol  |
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04-09-2008, 04:07 AM
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Name: Monica Last Online: Today 10:05 AM Join Date: Mar 2008
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DNF$: 65 Location: Dublin, Ireland
Country: | I didn't know that was unethical. Doesn't GoDaddy do it too? I thought it was just the way all the registrars worked. Well, Register.com doesn't do it, going on some of the names I have with them. |
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04-09-2008, 04:35 AM
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Name: Daniel Last Online: Today 03:49 PM Join Date: Apr 2004
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DNF$: 5,170 Location: .ro
Country: | this is simply amazing.
everybody else noticed how many "innovations" NetSol brought lately?
they seem never to be out of bright ideas. |
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04-09-2008, 04:55 AM
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Country: | Not a good idea to host with your registrar. In particular with netsol.
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04-09-2008, 05:31 AM
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Name: Goran Last Online: Today 03:43 PM Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by MAllie I didn't know that was unethical. Doesn't GoDaddy do it too? I thought it was just the way all the registrars worked. Well, Register.com doesn't do it, going on some of the names I have with them. | Others do it if you don't use the domain at all, but not when you use the domain.
This way, if a user happens to type "ww.yourdomain.com" instead of "www.yourname.com" they end up on a netsol advertising page instead of your site.
THAT is extremely unethical.
(In normal cases the browser would show a page saying that you may have mistyped the domain name, and check your spelling... now they think that they're on your site, and this is how it looks.)
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Last edited by gorlov; 04-09-2008 at 06:04 AM.
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04-09-2008, 05:56 AM
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Name: Samit Last Online: Today 04:02 PM Join Date: Nov 2006
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Country: | I think they need someone to rewire their ethics circuit.
And these are the people that are being counted on to stop the Snoweball's road to hell.
Sheeeesh.
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04-09-2008, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MAllie I didn't know that was unethical. Doesn't GoDaddy do it too? I thought it was just the way all the registrars worked. Well, Register.com doesn't do it, going on some of the names I have with them. | godaddy doesn't do-i just checked |
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04-09-2008, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tekz999 Hmm, is there anything written in their TOS saying that customers will abide by their advertisements on unassigned subdomains? | http://www.networksolutions.com/lega...-agreement.jsp Quote: |
You also agree that any domain name directory, sub-directory, file name or path (e.g. ) that does not resolve to an active web page on your Web site being hosted by Network Solutions, may be used by Network Solutions to place a "parking" page, "under construction" page, or other temporary page that may include promotions and advertisements for, and links to, Network Solutions' Web site, Network Solutions product and service offerings, third-party Web sites, third-party product and service offerings, and/or Internet search engines. You agree that Network Solutions may change the content and/or appearance of, or disable any of these temporary pages at any time, in its sole discretion, and without prior notice.
| OTOH, that TechCrunch link says someone from Network Solutions is checking
it out. Let's see.
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04-09-2008, 09:18 PM
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DNF$: 3,269 Location: my home is where my bank account is
Country: | ^^ they probably updated their TOS on a news break ^^, same as they did with domain holding scam,
by the way how did their suecase went? does anyone hav info |
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04-09-2008, 10:30 PM
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Name: Cory Kennedy Last Online: Today 12:42 AM Join Date: Sep 2005
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Country: | hosting with netsol? cough cough ewwwww |
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04-09-2008, 10:37 PM
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Name: Ed Last Online: Today 04:33 PM Join Date: Dec 2007
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DNF$: 60 Location: South Florida
Country: | I have two domains w/ NetSol. One has a separate DNS and the other is a 301 redirect. Neither have this issue (just checked).
But still, it is appalling. My hosing company will just give you a 404 or site not responding when you type in a subdomain that doesn't exist.
Has anyopne tried this with a page that doesn't exist (for example, maybe an imdex.htm?)
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04-09-2008, 10:37 PM
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DNF$: 6,147 | How exactly are they doing this? |
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04-10-2008, 03:41 AM
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Name: Monica Last Online: Today 10:05 AM Join Date: Mar 2008
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Country: | Domain Newbie, if you mean that a name kept on GoDaddy and not parked elsewhere doesn't have ads on its page when you type it in, you're wrong. All of mine had ads on them until I parked them at Sedo. I saved the pages. But perhaps we are really talking about something else and I haven't realised it. I'm quite prepared to admit that sometimes domaining stuff goes over my head.  |
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04-10-2008, 04:50 AM
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Name: Goran Last Online: Today 03:43 PM Join Date: Feb 2007
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DNF$: 4,486 Location: Sweden
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Originally Posted by MAllie Domain Newbie, if you mean that a name kept on GoDaddy and not parked elsewhere doesn't have ads on its page when you type it in, you're wrong. All of mine had ads on them until I parked them at Sedo. I saved the pages. But perhaps we are really talking about something else and I haven't realised it. I'm quite prepared to admit that sometimes domaining stuff goes over my head.  |
We're talking about subdomains here.
Most registrars put up an advertising page if you don't use the domain at all, but if you have your site at Netsol, (and we're talking DEVELOPED site here), and it shows up correctly when people type www.yourdomain.com or just yourdomain.com, BUT, it the user for example (mis)type in ww.yourdomain.com, then they end up on an advertising page. not your site, and not, (as it should be), getting an error that you should check the address you typed because the domain doesn't exist.
So basically Netsol steals any traffic who happen to for some reason mistype the subdomain. (Not domain, subdomain.)
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04-10-2008, 07:05 AM
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Name: Guillaume Last Online: Today 05:41 AM Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by wmloz How exactly are they doing this? | DNS wildcard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcard_DNS_record
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