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Old 02-29-2008, 08:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Keep hope alive!

As constituents, we need to put together our collective voice in strong opposition to certain aspects of this bill.

Hopefully verbage/docs will be drafted soon that we can send to Congress.
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Old 03-01-2008, 03:51 AM   #22 (permalink)
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This gets passed, parking is going to be a thing of the past. I imagine more liability is going to be put on the companies that provide PPC services, which they won't want to mess with. I also think that development will in some way protect our generic domains.

As was mentioned before, something like Vegasloans.com, which perfectly describes the services of thousands of businesses, would be too generic to hand over to just one business. Unless of course, Vegasloans.com was not being utilized by the current owner (as most on the outside would define "utilized") or happened to be parked. Then I would imagine, you would be a prime candidate to be a victim of this bill.

Worse case scenario, and this does pass with no change to the wording, development will become a safer haven for all of us. Anyone willing to still park domains would be crazy (...and I currently park quite a few of my domains).

I'm definitely behind the ICA, as we all should be.
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:14 AM   #23 (permalink)
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How on earth can you let an American legislature decide where domains, and in a way, the internet heads next?

This is utter bullcrap. The internet doesn't "belong" to any one country to be held hostage by some defunct bill.

Makes me mad
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It looks like they're working toward laws where even a generic domain can be taken away from its rightful owner without compensation by any business that is later established with the same or similar name. In other words if you register MobiWidgets and a few weeks later someone opens a business and calls it MobiWidgets they can legally take the name from you. Something like this would destroy the domain speculation business.
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I'm definitely behind the ICA, as we all should be.
The ICA was set up the the iREIT people and they supposidly kicked them out after they sued. Now, one of the major players is SEDO. The ICA is there to protect the likes of SEDO so they can keep displaying infringing keywords. Si if you think SEDO and Frank Schilling need your money then go ahead and send it. If you think the ICA is going to care what happens to you ... think again. The guy who made the posting at the iCA wb site is a professional Washington lobbyist attorney.

Fighting the bill is fine but just don't be tricked into thinking the ICA is the answer.
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Old 03-01-2008, 10:51 AM   #26 (permalink)
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This thread deserves a bump!
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Lets search domains who not have tm and register tm and get domain this is what domain bussines are in US.
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I bet CADNA is behind this.
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Old 03-01-2008, 12:11 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Just search the bill to see where CADNA stands on this:

Google Search: Anti-Phishing Consumer Protection Act
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:10 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The guy who made the posting at the iCA wb site is a professional Washington lobbyist attorney.

Fighting the bill is fine but just don't be tricked into thinking the ICA is the answer.
Yes, Phil Corwin is lobbying on behalf of domain owners. I assume you are a domain owner if you are a member of DNF. If not the ICA, who else is going to try to change the legislation to protect our domain assets?

*crickets*

Please read the following ICA article and then Digg it.

http://digg.com/politics/Snowe_Bill_...me_Registrants
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Edit: Let me research my question.. then I'll post again.
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hmmmmmmm...I wonder how these people even sleep at night, they must be clueless as to the real impact this could have on people and their business, incomes, family. What would be the timeframe on something like this getting passed or enacted and would previous domain registrations be considered "grandfathered"?
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I also think that development will in some way protect our generic domains.
I would hope so, but I think at the grubby core of this, development wouldn't matter since the domain itself is the target. (think Eminent Domain where land is the target, not buildings)

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hmmmmmmm...I wonder how these people even sleep at night, they must be clueless as to the real impact this could have on people and their business, incomes, family.
This is a prime example of the human condition: ignorant greed + quest for power = blinded conscience.

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Yes, Phil Corwin is lobbying on behalf of domain owners. [/url]
Wrong. Maybe they will end up helping domain owners, maybe not. Phil Corwin is lobbying on behalf of the likes of SEDO so they can keep displaying infringing keywords on their PPC pages (see myspace.co.uk decision). If you think they care anything about you or your domains then I suggest you look into them a little more closely.

It is your money. If you want to send it to support SEDO's business plan then go ahead.
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Ok, so what DO we do?
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Wrong. Maybe they will end up helping domain owners, maybe not. Phil Corwin is lobbying on behalf of the likes of SEDO so they can keep displaying infringing keywords on their PPC pages (see myspace.co.uk decision). If you think they care anything about you or your domains then I suggest you look into them a little more closely.

It is your money. If you want to send it to support SEDO's business plan then go ahead.
On what are you basing these claims?
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On what are you basing these claims?
You can look on their web site and see their current major supporters. You can search on their history with iREIT.

Plus, I asked them about the code of conduct they listed and the myspace.co.uk case. If you read the case you will see the issues with infringing keywords and links that send you somewhere else. The ICA gave me a huge list of excuses as to why the code of coduct would not apply to SEDO. They did not care about addressing the situation, all they cared about knocking down the complaint agaisnt their major sponsor. Things like what SEDO did in the myspace.co.uk case are one reason why legislation like this gets considered. Of course all PPC providers do it, not just SEDO.
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myspace.co.uk was struck down for a reason.
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:31 PM   #39 (permalink)
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ICA is supposed to be org that protect domain holders.

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The most important thing to me is that the ICA seems to be the only organization who is going to fight for our rights as domain investors. You can either contribute financially and try to get things done, or you can sit on the sideline, complain and hope for the best. If the bill is passed as is, it could spell disaster. I am doing something about it by helping my friends sound the alarm and issue a call to action.

Maybe the perception of domain investors being lazy is true. I sure hope not because I work as much as anyone. I am sitting here on a Saturday afternoon on my vacation, trying to drum up support. For me, the bottom line is that the ICA is our best hope that the bill gets changed.

BTW, I put my money where my mouth is. I am a Professional Member of the ICA, and I also contributed an extra $500 this morning - which is being matched by another friend of mine.
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