Online poker players face legal issues- yahoo.com news

[Banned: Preoccupy]

Just an update on what's going on with online gambling. Will it effect or cause problems with Online casino domain?
Will the value of online casino domains:
1) go down
2) stay the same
3) go up


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060805/...NqBHNlYwM3NDk-

[DaddyHalbucks]

Goes down.

The US is the biggest slice of the online gambling pie.

[Onward]

Overall the value will go down...but there are alot of poker sites that are not gambling sites...meaning you do not bet money...like pokerstars.net. Those type of sites seem to be making lots of money.

I think that the bottom line is that you will not be able to make nearly as much money in parking...which will drive the price down. But stillhas development value for (the good names).

Just my opinion.

[Banned: Preoccupy]

Thank for the opinions, I'm just worried,,,,,,,, anything else?
I have more than hundred domains in ppc and those with gambling keywords... Should i remove those domains just in case they come after us... Would there be problems in the future with the law? According to the yahoo news, they are arresting those who own the online gambling sites with USA involved... will they soon be coming to domains in ppc? Do you think it is wiser to change the keywords or remove the domains or what should i do? I should make a decision soon... Please advise me with what you are doing and what I should do best!

[beatz]

It's the first time i've read about this .com/.net distinction - so does that mean a poker *gambling* site will alyways use .com while non-gambling sites will always use .net ?

[Banned: Preoccupy]

I'm not too sure... that part is confusing to me too... but rather it is .com or .net,etc, it still scares me... who knows what the government will go after next!

It's the first time i've read about this .com/.net distinction - so does that mean a poker *gambling* site will alyways use .com while non-gambling sites will always use .net ?

[RazorNF]

I'm not too sure... that part is confusing to me too... but rather it is .com or .net,etc, it still scares me... who knows what the government will go after next!

.net versions of the popular poker sites have been an increasing trend, primarily for advertising purposes in mainstream media - where they might not be able to promote a real-money site. Though they won't say it, but they know there's a good chance you'll type .com in your browser instead, and make your way to play for real $.

[Banned: Preoccupy]

I agree with you. I live in America so I have to follow the laws here... if we don't follow the rules and regulations (Model Penel Code or United States Code), we will be accused and prosecuted.... Too Bad! We should all be careful and follow the rules... don't you think?

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.net versions of the popular poker sites have been an increasing trend, primarily for advertising purposes in mainstream media - where they might not be able to promote a real-money site. Though they won't say it, but they know there's a good chance you'll type .com in your browser instead, and make your way to play for real $.

[italiandragon]

Well...they are just trying to stop people playing online and forcing them to go to the real casinos.....so there has to be some kind of "push action" from some big casinos.

But, as some people know, the world is not only USA and there are plenty of other Countries HAPPY to host gambling websites:

"Of course, with or without a new law from Congress, the Justice Department interprets all online gambling to be illegal. Other countries allow it, so online companies have set up operations outside the U.S. but with easy access to U.S. players and their computers. "

[Banned: Preoccupy]

I thought that USA was the big gambling industry... if they stop that then even though other countries host gambling websites, would the value of the gambling domains go down? What about PPC income? With all these banning and arresting and the complications, the demand for gambling domains will decrease.... Too Bad! Very worried!
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Well...they are just trying to stop people playing online and forcing them to go to the real casinos.....so there has to be some kind of "push action" from some big casinos.

But, as some people know, the world is not only USA and there are plenty of other Countries HAPPY to host gambling websites:

"Of course, with or without a new law from Congress, the Justice Department interprets all online gambling to be illegal. Other countries allow it, so online companies have set up operations outside the U.S. but with easy access to U.S. players and their computers. "

[whitebark]

"Of course, with or without a new law from Congress, the Justice Department interprets all online gambling to be illegal. Other countries allow it, so online companies have set up operations outside the U.S. but with easy access to U.S. players and their computers. "

Same has been true in Canada for a while now. The government can't stop it, so the people have just gone on playing - albeit from companies set up off shore.

Where there is a will there is a way.

[Banned: Preoccupy]

I see... most of the online gambling companies have gone off shore but as long as they have Americans online playing, it seems like the government will be going after the company... Could this be an international problem that might soon arise? Lots of people are saying that they will still play... will the government try to locate the players and punish them? Do you think this can be possible?

Same has been true in Canada for a while now. The government can't stop it, so the people have just gone on playing - albeit from companies set up off shore.

Where there is a will there is a way.

[italiandragon]

I see... most of the online gambling companies have gone off shore but as long as they have Americans online playing, it seems like the government will be going after the company... Could this be an international problem that might soon arise? Lots of people are saying that they will still play... will the government try to locate the players and punish them? Do you think this can be possible?

yes sure, so they will arrest any person playing online poker invading privacy with FBI agents.....

what is the movie called?

If that law goes ahead, there will be simply an emigration of companies from Usa to overseas and they will be very welcome in many places.

If Usa wants to stop gambling worldwide this is the BS of the year.
First they should think at passing the control of the internet to an international org. like the ONU.

[RazorNF]

Actually, a number of gaming companies have set up in Canada... on the Kahnawake Mohawk reserve in Quebec. It's technically illegal, but as you can imagine, the RCMP won't be making any moves on a native reservation any time soon.

But I think many indian bands have these self-governance agreements with the government, so maybe it still a grey-area...

[whitebark]

Actually, a number of gaming companies have set up in Canada... on the Kahnawake Mohawk reserve in Quebec. It's technically illegal, but as you can imagine, the RCMP won't be making any moves on a native reservation any time soon.

But I think many indian bands have these self-governance agreements with the government, so maybe it still a grey-area...

Correct me if I am wrong but I think only the software end is being done from the reserves, but not the actual servers. And you are right - they are not willing to have OKA2.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Actually, a number of gaming companies have set up in Canada... on the Kahnawake Mohawk reserve in Quebec. It's technically illegal, but as you can imagine, the RCMP won't be making any moves on a native reservation any time soon.

But I think many indian bands have these self-governance agreements with the government, so maybe it still a grey-area...

Online casinos have been offshore for some time. Quebec, Gibraltar, Isle of Mann, Costa Rica, and Antigua ---these have all been popular locations for the casino servers and customer service.

The issue now is the CUSTOMERS. The biggest slice of the customer pie is in the US. These new laws make it seem that the authorities may ratchet up enforcement a notch by arresting the online casino patrons as well as the online casino operators.

Ther recent arrest of an online betting web site CEO in Texas on a airline layover is a step in that direction.

[Banned: Preoccupy]

I think you pointed out the perfect issue... CUSTOMERS... It seems like since Las Vegas is contributing quite a lot regarding this problem... just as in Hawaii, they have been trying to allow gambling for quite a while but because Las Vegas is always against this, Hawaii has not been able to bring in casinos. I think since Las Vegas has made a desert into a fabulous city, it is like a miracle of America... If Las Vegas loses their customers to online casino, Nevada's reputation of casino in the desert would be lost... For example, in Hawaii, since gambling is illegal, you get arrested for actually running the gambling site and those who were at the site also get arrested... and you get a criminal record. Weird how one state is allowed and in another state, it is totally against the law... who will win US government?

Online casinos have been offshore for some time. Quebec, Gibraltar, Isle of Mann, Costa Rica, and Antigua ---these have all been popular locations for the casino servers and customer service.

The issue now is the CUSTOMERS. The biggest slice of the customer pie is in the US. These new laws make it seem that the authorities may ratchet up enforcement a notch by arresting the online casino patrons as well as the online casino operators.

Ther recent arrest of an online betting web site CEO in Texas on a airline layover is a step in that direction.

[micky]

I my opinion prohibiting online gambling falls inline with the clampdown of many e-currencies and (legitimate) internet investment schemes since last year which is only done cause more and more people stay at home in order to earn good money.

In fact many people earn a living (and many even a killing!) with playing online casino and poker and that's what the police state in the US just cannot endure anymore as such online ways of earning (easy) money has spread like wildfire.

If anyone really believes the only reason is an ethical one (legal or illegal?) he/she has been nicely fooled. This all is a puzzle piece of something bigger. More laws, more regulations, more control and making things illegal which have been legal before.

I'm not in the US but this tide can also reach the EU and the rest of the world. Such things happen cause nobody really complains and all sh*t in their pants and are too anxious to stand up and voice their opinions.

Who has the right to tell me where I shall spend my earned money and where not?? The sad truth they'll do this it tells us only one thing: Our earned money actually does not belong to us! Exactly as the house I buy in cash still doesn't belong to me. Something which the mankind will have to realize very painfully soon!

Those who know what the monetary system is, how it really works and whom it really belongs know what I mean ;-)

[DaddyHalbucks]

I my opinion prohibiting online gambling falls inline with the clampdown of many e-currencies and (legitimate) internet investment schemes since last year which is only done cause more and more people stay at home in order to earn good money.

In fact many people earn a living (and many even a killing!) with playing online casino and poker and that's what the police state in the US just cannot endure anymore as such online ways of earning (easy) money has spread like wildfire.

If anyone really believes the only reason is an ethical one (legal or illegal?) he/she has been nicely fooled. This all is a puzzle piece of something bigger. More laws, more regulations, more control and making things illegal which have been legal before.

I'm not in the US but this tide can also reach the EU and the rest of the world. Such things happen cause nobody really complains and all sh*t in their pants and are too anxious to stand up and voice their opinions.

Who has the right to tell me where I shall spend my earned money and where not?? The sad truth they'll do this it tells us only one thing: Our earned money actually does not belong to us! Exactly as the house I buy in cash still doesn't belong to me. Something which the mankind will have to realize very painfully soon!

Those who know what the monetary system is, how it really works and whom it really belongs know what I mean ;-)

Online gambling is not investing. And very few players make a living with it.

The US government prohibits it because alot of the online casinos are scam operations. Although, I think the US government has a better chance to make progress through regulation... rather than prohibition.

So maybe we agree.