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**JuniperPark** · 10-07-2004, 10:29 AM

Congrats John!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

**actnow** · 10-07-2004, 11:31 AM

John must have been very busy yesterday and this morning.

There are two add'l articles today about the Cheney mistake in which
John is quoted.

Wall St. Journal, page A4.
USAToday, page 11A.

USA Today was the larger article.

Congratulations, John!!!

**Dave Zan** · 10-07-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by actnow

John must have been very busy yesterday and this morning.

There are two add'l articles today about the Cheney mistake in which
John is quoted.

Wall St. Journal, page A4.
USAToday, page 11A.

USA Today was the larger article.

Congratulations, John!!!

John posted his reply about this in another forum, though I think I can't post
the link to it.

Get a week or more off, John! You earned it!

**GeneralBill** · 10-07-2004, 12:59 PM

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The company decided to redirect traffic to the Soros site after it became inundated with hits -- about 100 a second after the debate, John Berryhill, a Philadelphia lawyer for FactCheck.com, said Wednesday.

Since when is American traffic bad? Most people here would give an arm and a leg to have 100 Americans visiting their PPC page each second. Do they want to get Bush out of office so bad, that they would forego all the money they would have made on PPC clicks?

**jberryhill** · 10-07-2004, 01:51 PM

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Do they want to get Bush out of office so bad, that they would forego all the money they would have made on PPC clicks?

There's making money on PPC clicks, and then there is making money on trash traffic. The advertisers pay for that traffic, and if they are paying too much for too few conversions, then they wonder if they are getting their money's worth. Even with PPC, the point is to deliver value to your customers, the advertisers. There is not an infinite pile of money sitting around somewhere just waiting to be sucked up by clicks.

Traffic was pouring in at DDOS levels, and with the various print media picking this up today, it is going to be at least a couple of days before it tapers off. That kind of traffic could have easily shut down a lot more than just that one domain name. Something had to give.

The Annenberg Center was grateful that it didn't take the hit directly, and today even the Soros servers have been challenged to stand up under the volume.

A couple of different news organizations did their own interviews, aside from the AP wire:

Wall Street Journal
Washington Post
Atlanta Journal Constitution
New York Times
LA Times
NPR All Things Considered
USA Today
Philadelphia Daily News
Air America Radio
Boston Herald

BBC Radio London is later today.

I had a root canal done yesterday morning, so talking all day was... challenging. I doggone near chewed out part of my cheek from the inside.

**Nexus** · 10-07-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jberryhill

I doggone near chewed out part of my cheek from the inside.

Careful, or someone will accuse you of talking out of both sides of your mouth. (I'm sorry, the joke was just there).

~ Nexus

**freestyler** · 10-07-2004, 02:10 PM

Congrats john ...

**GT Web** · 10-07-2004, 03:47 PM

great news John...you are my hero...lol :-D

**DaddyHalbucks** · 10-07-2004, 08:16 PM

CNN wrote:

"But Cheney cited FactCheck.com, a for-profit advertising site based in the Cayman Islands.

The company decided to redirect traffic to the Soros site after it became inundated with hits -- about 100 a second after the debate, John Berryhill, a Philadelphia lawyer for FactCheck.com, said Wednesday.

"This was to relieve stress on the service and to express a political point of view," said Berryhill, who spoke with the site's administrators shortly after the debate ended."
+++++++++++++++++++++++

How do other Americans feel about entities in foreign countries which "express a political point of view" AKA: try to influence the US elections? It looks like a gray area.

**JuniperPark** · 10-07-2004, 08:21 PM

I think the Name Admin folks are American; they used to be based a few miles from here in a San Diego apartment building.

Other than that, I think everyone should be able to express a point of view. That's supposed to be what the US is all about.

Except, of course, for those Americans being arrested at Bush's speeches for nothing more than wearing anti-Bush tshirts....

**StockDoctor** · 10-07-2004, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneralBill

Do they want to get Bush out of office so bad, that they would forego all the money they would have made on PPC clicks?

Sounds like a good thing to me.

**biggedon** · 10-07-2004, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JuniperPark

I think the Name Admin folks are American; they used to be based a few miles from here in a San Diego apartment building.

Other than that, I think everyone should be able to express a point of view. That's supposed to be what the US is all about.

Except, of course, for those Americans being arrested at Bush's speeches for nothing more than wearing anti-Bush tshirts....

Bush has eliminated quite a few rights that we americans used to have.......I would spend all my ppc earnings to remove him from office.

Congrats to you John on your added exposure.......hope it will be good for your future!

**jberryhill** · 10-07-2004, 10:58 PM

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How do other Americans feel about entities in foreign countries which "express a political point of view" AKA: try to influence the US elections?

You mean like Rupert Murdoch and his Fox News network?

Or were you referring to US government funding of opponents of President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela?

Get real. What do you think of the Vice President of the United States telling 40 million people to launch a manual denial-of-service attack on websites operated by people in foreign countries? Did someone make him do that?

If you send traffic to my site, I'll do with it what I darn well please, regardless of what country I am in.

**URLCollection** · 10-08-2004, 12:11 AM

That was pleasant surprise for the folks in the Caymans John - After that last hurricane they deserved a nice surprise for a change. Even though the traffic did not convert well, they still had it to do what ever they wanted with it - Good luck with that root canal - Steve

**DaddyHalbucks** · 10-11-2004, 10:46 AM

JB wrote:

Or were you referring to US government funding of opponents of President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela?

IF I WERE A VENEZUELAN, I MIGHT NOT BE TOO THRILLED WITH THE ABOVE ALLEGED US MANIPULATION.

Get real. What do you think of the Vice President of the United States telling 40 million people to launch a manual denial-of-service attack on websites operated by people in foreign countries? Did someone make him do that?

IT'S CALLED AN ERROR. IT'S A CONDITION OF BEING HUMAN. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT A HIGHLY RESPECTABLE MAN SUCH AS CHENEY INTENDED A DDOS ATTACK.

If you send traffic to my site, I'll do with it what I darn well please, regardless of what country I am in.

A POWERFUL FREE SPEECH ARGUMENT WHICH MAY UNDERMINE THE RATIONALE FOR THE "TRUTH IN DOMAIN NAMES ACT" OF THE AMBER ALERT LEGISLATION. PARENTS NEED TO MONITOR THEIR OWN CHILDREN. WHY ANYONE WOULD ASSUME THAT ALL WEBSITES ON THE INTERNET HAVE TO BE SAFE FOR CHILDREN IS BEYOND ME.

**jberryhill** · 10-11-2004, 11:45 AM

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IT'S CALLED AN ERROR. IT'S A CONDITION OF BEING HUMAN. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT A HIGHLY RESPECTABLE MAN SUCH AS CHENEY INTENDED A DDOS ATTACK.

When someone shoots you in the leg with a gun, it doesn't make your condition any better to learn they were aiming for someone else, and knowing that they had bad aim does not dispose you to think any more kindly of them.

The Truth in Domain Names Act relates to intentional use of domain names known to be attractive to children in a deceptive manner to provide depictions of sexual acts. Now, I have heard that some people understood Mr. Cheney to say "fatchick.com", so maybe there is some relevance there.

The bottom line though, is that this was not an action undertaken to influence an election, so much as it was a quick, and cute, fix to a genuine technical problem caused by Mr. Cheney's error - www.factcheck.com/factcheck.html

--late edit--

On the other hand, though, accidentally launching a DDOS attack is a vast improvement over accidentally invading another country.