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**cadillac880** · 04-09-2008, 01:41 PM

In my opinion should this sale not go through the seller has made a huge mistake! The ONLY reason I can see that the bidding has gotten this high is due to the hype and media attention left over from the Pizza.com sale. This hype will not last forever.

The highest reported sales I can find for a dot net are:

Sex.net $454,500 in a 2006 Traffic Auction and Porn.net $400,000 just this year.

The current bid is more than double the $400,000 porn.net sale. The generic word Pizza, premium yes but not in the league of Sex or Porn dot .net

Pizza.info equally would not be where it is at now $18,750 if not for the recent sale and media attention surrounding Pizza.com if this was the true market value without the Pizza.com sale then I should easily be able to get $5,000 plus for Calamari.info which I do not think is realistic at this time.

It is a shame if this ends at say $950,000 and the reserve is not met as it would be a great dot net sale that never happened and will not happen with a keyword such as Pizza for years to come.
The seller has the right to set the reserve where ever he/she pleases but I think it is a huge mistake to pass up on this opportunity at this time on this particular domain.

Again just my thoughts and input.

**dominator** · 04-09-2008, 02:07 PM

There are no formulas for the calculation of the .net value form the respective .com value.

"Pizza" is used in many languages. For example in Germany, the consumers do not care if the domain name is a .com or .net, it does not make a difference, unless it is a .de. Same in many other European countries.

Any non-US pizza chain could use names like pizza.net and pizza.info. Of course, it is quite expensive for resellers. (It could be used even in the U.S., pizza.net, easy to remember and shorter than .info.)

**Restecpa** · 04-09-2008, 02:20 PM

These numbers are nuts... It must be fake?

My scenario: Seller sets up an abnormally high reserve so he and his friends can afford to shill bid high, without actually having to show any money. News eventually hits the media and/or potential buyers, however, since the reserve is so high, sale doesn't go through. After that, another auction is set up, however this time with potential buyers under the influence of the last quasi auction, assuming it's actually worth high $xxx,xxx. "Nice" tactics to bring in some attention and possibly ensure a higher sale than it would be otherwise possible...

**PRED** · 04-09-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Restecpa

These numbers are nuts... It must be fake?

My scenario: Seller sets up an abnormally high reserve so he and his friends can afford to shill bid high, without actually having to show any money. News eventually hits the media and/or potential buyers, however, since the reserve is so high, sale doesn't go through. After that, another auction is set up, however this time with potential buyers under the influence of the last quasi auction, assuming it's actually worth high $xxx,xxx. "Nice" tactics to bring in some attention and possibly ensure a higher sale than it would be otherwise possible...

Bingo
It's a farce
What's scarey are some people are buying it. lol

**denny007** · 04-09-2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Restecpa

These numbers are nuts... It must be fake?

My scenario: Seller sets up an abnormally high reserve so he and his friends can afford to shill bid high, without actually having to show any money. News eventually hits the media and/or potential buyers, however, since the reserve is so high, sale doesn't go through. After that, another auction is set up, however this time with potential buyers under the influence of the last quasi auction, assuming it's actually worth high $xxx,xxx. "Nice" tactics to bring in some attention and possibly ensure a higher sale than it would be otherwise possible...

Anyone has a fake TDNAM account to spare ? Could bid 10 mil and see the artificial reserve

**idevlabs** · 04-09-2008, 02:54 PM

I bet it is a shill bid, that reserve is absurd.

**sashas** · 04-09-2008, 03:01 PM

its TDNAM
what do you expect?

**DomainBELL** · 04-09-2008, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Restecpa

These numbers are nuts... It must be fake?

My scenario: Seller sets up an abnormally high reserve so he and his friends can afford to shill bid high, without actually having to show any money. News eventually hits the media and/or potential buyers, however, since the reserve is so high, sale doesn't go through. After that, another auction is set up, however this time with potential buyers under the influence of the last quasi auction, assuming it's actually worth high $xxx,xxx. "Nice" tactics to bring in some attention and possibly ensure a higher sale than it would be otherwise possible...

interesting....

and I bet you are correct...

~DomainBELL (Patricia)

**Acro** · 04-09-2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Restecpa

"Nice" tactics to bring in some attention and possibly ensure a higher sale than it would be otherwise possible...

It happens every day on DNForum; starting a thread asking for appraisals right before it goes on sale

**Focus** · 04-09-2008, 04:07 PM

maybe I will win this one lol

**DomainBELL** · 04-09-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Focus

maybe I will win this one lol

cool....

what's your current top bid ??

~DomainBELL (Patricia)

**Fearless** · 04-09-2008, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomainBELL

what safeguards are used to protect from fake bids... ??

~DomainBELL (Patricia)

Apparently none.

**EG.domains** · 04-09-2008, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malaysia

i suspect his reserve shud be a million

Current Bid: $1,000,005

Reserve price: Has not been met!

**Fearless** · 04-09-2008, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomainBELL

Pizza is hot.

After seeing this signature, I realized I didn't even check if I own a pizza name.
Turns out I own PizzaStore.com. That should be worth $50K.

**maroulis** · 04-09-2008, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless

Pizza is hot.

After seeing this signature, I realized I didn't even check if I own a pizza name.
Turns out I own PizzaStore.com. That should be worth $50K.

put it up on TDNAM we'll bid it 500K easy for you

**Fearless** · 04-09-2008, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maroulis

put it up on TDNAM we'll bid it 500K easy for you

I don't think Afternic has been hit with pizza shilling yet. Maybe they would be a better choice.

DNP · 04-10-2008, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadillac880

Pizza.info equally would not be where it is at now $18,750 if not for the recent sale and media attention surrounding Pizza.com if this was the true market value without the Pizza.com sale then I should easily be able to get $5,000 plus for Calamari.info which I do not think is realistic at this time.

If Chinese.info and Christian.info hit last summer 37k and 35k accordingly, why do you think Pizza.info should go times lower??

**maroulis** · 04-10-2008, 12:25 AM

on a second note, I Think pizzastore.net should go for $250K LOL

**Fearless** · 04-10-2008, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maroulis

on a second note, I Think pizzastore.net should go for $250K LOL

Only if it comes with a database of all the pizza stores.

**DomainMillionaire** · 04-10-2008, 12:32 AM

subscribed.

04-09-2008, 01:41 PM	#61 (permalink)
cadillac880 Last Online: Yesterday 03:13 PM iTrader: (58) Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,058 DNF$: 323 Location: Parts Unknown Country:	Big mistake..... In my opinion should this sale not go through the seller has made a huge mistake! The ONLY reason I can see that the bidding has gotten this high is due to the hype and media attention left over from the Pizza.com sale. This hype will not last forever. The highest reported sales I can find for a dot net are: Sex.net $454,500 in a 2006 Traffic Auction and Porn.net $400,000 just this year. The current bid is more than double the $400,000 porn.net sale. The generic word Pizza, premium yes but not in the league of Sex or Porn dot .net Pizza.info equally would not be where it is at now $18,750 if not for the recent sale and media attention surrounding Pizza.com if this was the true market value without the Pizza.com sale then I should easily be able to get $5,000 plus for Calamari.info which I do not think is realistic at this time. It is a shame if this ends at say $950,000 and the reserve is not met as it would be a great dot net sale that never happened and will not happen with a keyword such as Pizza for years to come. The seller has the right to set the reserve where ever he/she pleases but I think it is a huge mistake to pass up on this opportunity at this time on this particular domain. Again just my thoughts and input.

04-09-2008, 02:07 PM	#62 (permalink)
dominator Last Online: 11-20-2009 10:48 PM iTrader: (15) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,111 DNF$: 3,731 Location: USA Country:	There are no formulas for the calculation of the .net value form the respective .com value. "Pizza" is used in many languages. For example in Germany, the consumers do not care if the domain name is a .com or .net, it does not make a difference, unless it is a .de. Same in many other European countries. Any non-US pizza chain could use names like pizza.net and pizza.info. Of course, it is quite expensive for resellers. (It could be used even in the U.S., pizza.net, easy to remember and shorter than .info.) __________________ XXE. COM (LLL.com from 1997) OLYM. COM (for sale) DARTING.ORG (1 word generic)

04-09-2008, 02:20 PM	#63 (permalink)
Restecpa Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Z Last Online: 04-22-2009 02:40 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 539 DNF$: 26 Location: EU	These numbers are nuts... It must be fake? My scenario: Seller sets up an abnormally high reserve so he and his friends can afford to shill bid high, without actually having to show any money. News eventually hits the media and/or potential buyers, however, since the reserve is so high, sale doesn't go through. After that, another auction is set up, however this time with potential buyers under the influence of the last quasi auction, assuming it's actually worth high $xxx,xxx. "Nice" tactics to bring in some attention and possibly ensure a higher sale than it would be otherwise possible... __________________ \|\|\| TraceRT \|\|\| \|\|\| Fitness Community \|\|\|

04-09-2008, 02:54 PM	#66 (permalink)
idevlabs Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Michael Last Online: 11-20-2009 11:48 AM iTrader: (29) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 404 DNF$: 600 Location: Maryland Country:	I bet it is a shill bid, that reserve is absurd. __________________ MiniSites.com - Shift your domains out of park!

04-09-2008, 03:01 PM	#67 (permalink)
sashas DNF Addict Name: Puranjay Last Online: 10-15-2009 04:56 AM iTrader: (33) Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,784 DNF$: 4,352 Location: New Delhi Country:	its TDNAM what do you expect? __________________ EcuadorBiz.com - 9.5 Years Old!

04-09-2008, 04:07 PM	#70 (permalink)
Focus Making Everything Click Name: Chris Last Online: Today 01:27 AM iTrader: (111) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 9,403 DNF$: 15,334 Location: Dirty South Country:	maybe I will win this one lol __________________ Selling the tremendous domain name : FLUS dot com must see unbelievable price & opportunity! Hurry!

04-10-2008, 12:25 AM	#78 (permalink)
maroulis Last Online: 03-20-2009 01:51 PM iTrader: (50) Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,307 DNF$: 2,398 Location: Dallas, TX Country:	on a second note, I Think pizzastore.net should go for $250K LOL __________________ FREE XSite Pro v2 Webinar training + LIMITED OFFER PRICING $197 ($100 DISCOUNT!!!)

04-10-2008, 12:32 AM	#80 (permalink)
DomainMillionaire Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 04-28-2009 06:13 PM iTrader: (16) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 278 DNF$: 137	subscribed. __________________ Triple Premuim name RNM.com For sale Any offer I make is valid for no more than 12 hrs.

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