.РФ Public Registration To Start At 10 Million Rubles

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by brian1234

Yes RD, 'tis still "petty cash" to some.. I think the "traffic" question, for .РФ, would have to be a case of intelligent guesswork, since there is no past-performance to go on. Do you agree?

Or, should we look to (russian) idn.com for possible traffic indicators?

One thing is for sure, it will be interesting to see what happens here...

It is a developing market so the cake is getting bigger exponentially.

Dot RU is clearly finished, or a least will be phased out.

The question of who gets what as the size of the cake is open to debate, but there is clearly room for both .РФ and dot Com or its aliases.

Dot Com is here in the here and now and will benefit from the landrush publicity of .РФ. The perceived transparency of dot com ownership will also help. It could go anwhere either way between 50-50 and 90-10 but in by anyones calculations top generics in either extension in cyrillic characters are going to be worth a great deal of money. The current record of $216K will not stand for long.

Originally Posted by dominator

even this small value (not recognized by you) will drop

I take it you must be a dot ME or dot Mobi investor then?

[brian1234]

Originally Posted by dominator

the value of idn.com's will drop

How did this get turned in to an "idn.com will fail" thread?! My comment wasn't whether idn.com was an indicator of 'value', for РФ, but whether it might be useful in determining possible 'traffic' levels for the extension.

[dominator]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Dot RU is clearly finished, or a least will be phased out.

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

top generics in either extension in cyrillic characters are going to be worth a great deal of money.

i doubt

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

I take it you must be a dot ME or dot Mobi investor then?

you are wrong

i am not
maybe you are
(because you are thinking about .mEobi when we are talking about russia)

Originally Posted by brian1234

How did this get turned in to an "idn.com will fail" thread

i did not use the word "fail"
but .rf will replace idn.com

[brian1234]

Originally Posted by dominator

i did not use the word "fail" but .rf will replace idn.com

Dominator, we will have to crown you 'king of the sweeping statements' today!

You are entitled to believe what you want, but I think the truth is that idn.com and idn.idn will (happily or otherwise) co-exist with one another.

[dominator]

Originally Posted by brian1234

You are entitled to believe what you want, but I think the truth is that idn.com and idn.idn will (happily or otherwise) co-exist with one another.

"otherwise" is what i meant
not happily (for idn.com)

[ok10]

One thing holding back russian-idn.com now is that Russians are so used to typing in english-letters.ru. If .РФ really starts replacing .ru in the future, Russians will get used to typing domains in Russian, and idn.com may really benefit from that. .RU is the extension that will probably get hurt the most.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by ok10

One thing holding back russian-idn.com now is that Russians are so used to typing in english-letters.ru. If .РФ really starts replacing .ru in the future, Russians will get used to typing domains in Russian, and idn.com may really benefit from that. .RU is the extension that will probably get hurt the most.

Dot RU = Dodo

The future of the Russian Internet will be decided by Russian Residents quite a few of whom are now hanging out IDNF are investing in Cyrillic dot Com, perhaps to some degree because the only alternative is the Cyrillic version of dot SU.

Anyway, the important think is that it won't be decided by those that if endowed with the description Clueless would simply be being bestowed too much credibility.

And no I don't have anything outside Dot Com, Dot Net, Dot JP and Dot CN, and I have junked all the ASCII that I held in the latter, and only hold a couple of dozen ccTLDs anyway to monitor the traffic. I have found that there really isn't anything to get exited about.

[brian1234]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Dot RU = Dodo

The future of the Russian Internet will be decided by Russian Residents

Couldn't agree more RD, and if you will permit me to append "the media" to that conclusion then I think we will have covered all bases

Russia is a rich and diverse country, and at the risk of repeating myself, I believe there will be opportunities for .РФ and .com. Are existing .ru holders not (automatically) getting the equivalent in .РФ then?.. as happened with the Serbian (.rs) registry recently...

[phio]

Originally Posted by dominator

i doubt

Nothing can replace idn.com It is used worldwide -- from Thailand to the Norway and there are thousands of websites using idn.com. Even the Germans are buying IDN.com IDN.de IDN.org IDN.net IDN.info it's been pretty amazing to watch this year.

As each cctld converts to IDN.IDN, the value of IDN.com will only increase...along with traffic. IMO

The guys/gals I really feel for are the ones who are going to have to upgrade from IE/5 or IE/6 and make their offices' web experience more 21st Century friendly. They've only had about the last 10 years to do it....

[dominator]

Originally Posted by phio

Nothing can replace idn.com It is used worldwide -- from Thailand to the Norway and their are thousands of websites using idn.com. Even the Germans are buying IDN.com IDN.de IDN.org IDN.net IDN.info it's been pretty amazing to watch this year...

germans?

very poor example

you probably have no idea about the value of .de and of german gTLDs (ascii or idn)
.de has 10 times to 1000 times higher value than the same german word(s) in any other tld (including .com)

(and even .de idn's are rarely used - meaning in real business, not only for parking)

and norway?

most words do not have any special characters and gTLDs in most cases are still free to register...

[phio]

Originally Posted by dominator

germans?

very poor example

you probably have no idea about the value of .de and of german gTLDs (ascii or idn)
.de has 10 times to 1000 times higher value than the same german word(s) in any other tld (including .com)

(and even .de idn's are rarely used - meaning in real business, not only for parking)

and norway?

most words do not have any special characters and gTLDs in most cases are still free to register...

You're right, I have no idea what .de's are worth. I think I'll just drop all my German IDN.coms, especially the ones that are getting traffic.

Norway?, where the hell is Norway?

[dominator]

Originally Posted by phio

I think I'll just drop all my German IDN.coms, especially the ones that are getting traffic.

Norway?, where the hell is Norway?

i didn't say you have to drop them
(yes, some of them can be used for parking, i did mention parking)

you mentioned germany and norway, so don't be surprised now

[valeria]

So all hopes and plans of ruIDN.com owners is that their portfolio will have value from traffic that will come from typos of .rf?

Pure fun.

We will stick to generic English/Spanish .com's

It is just not worth it to spend $5k - $200k for a decent ruIDN.com which is still a typo and will be treated like one.

[Explorer]

Originally Posted by ok10

One thing holding back russian-idn.com now is that Russians are so used to typing in english-letters.ru. If .РФ really starts replacing .ru in the future, Russians will get used to typing domains in Russian, and idn.com may really benefit from that. .RU is the extension that will probably get hurt the most.

Let’s not forget that all geos and most of adult terms (and who knows what else) will be reserved by .rf, making idn.com the only idn alternative.

[phio]

Originally Posted by dominator

(yes, some of them can be used for parking, i did mention parking)

for me it's been develop develop develop...

already sold a nice IDN website to an end-user in the middle east. If it wasn't developed -- he may not of even bothered.. I'm certain he was saying to himself. I want that!

[dominator]

Originally Posted by phio

already sold a nice IDN website to an end-user in the middle east.

in russian?

Originally Posted by phio

If it wasn't developed -- he may not of even bothered.. I'm certain he was saying to himself. I want that!

i can agree with that

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by valeria

So all hopes and plans of ruIDN.com owners is that their portfolio will have value from traffic that will come from typos of .rf?

Pure fun.

We will stick to generic English/Spanish .com's

It is just not worth it to spend $5k - $200k for a decent ruIDN.com which is still a typo and will be treated like one.

I wouldn't sweat it. The way things are going you'll be lucky to get an ice cream at the street corner for that.