Welcome to Welcome to DNF.com™ - Domain Sales, Domain Forum, Domain Appraisals, Domain Registrars

If you are new to domains and looking to buy, sell and learn about domains then you have come to the right place. DNForum is the largest domain name community on the internet and continues to grow every day. There are over 105,000 domainers on DNForum doing everything from buying domains, selling domains, learning about domains and discussing domains. Take a minute and Register.

Register Today on DNForum IT'S FREE!

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 38
  1. #1
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    EJS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Manhattan, NYC
    Posts
    2,276
    DNF$
    3,366
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    3,366
    Donate  

    Exclamation Spreading The Word

    I can't be the only one losing sleep over the Snowe Bill, can I? It seems that there was much, much more noise on the forums, blogs, and news outlets when Network Solutions was front running domain names than when this bill was introduced by Senator Snowe and publicized by CADNA.

    As far as I can tell, if this bill passes as is, domain names will be much more risky to own - especially if they are parked or otherwise undeveloped. All it will take is one generic domain name being tied up in litigation costing tens of thousands of dollars, and this will be game over. Who can afford to spend tens of thousands of dollars defending domain names, when losing could mean fines up to $6 million? Why aren't the forums buzzing? Why aren't other blogs giving this much attention? Why are many people so blase about this? I know there has been a couple of threads here, but we need to come up with an action plan.

    Personally, I think the ICA is our best shot, which is why I am doing all I can to highlight this on my blog. I know some people disagree, but I have yet to hear a better alternative. Why are we collectively sitting back and not taking action? My most valuable names are (or will be) fully developed into businesses once this bill is passed, so I think I will be more safe than many. However, I am concerned about the long term value of domain names in general.

    In my correspondence with others in the industry, I've heard that some companies are waiting for certain things from the ICA or are waiting to see how things pan out. If you were diagnosed with cancer, would you wait things out to see how things progress or would you visit the closest doctor as quickly as possible? If you knew there was just one doctor in your area (or within traveling distance) who had some experience fighting this cancer, would you spend time researching the doctor's credentials, asking for letters of recommendation, checking his grades in medical school? I don't think so. You would be in his office finding out how you can fight this cancer as best as you can. You know your body better than anyone else, and if he told you something that made you uncomfortable, you would ask for an alternative approach that would work for you and you would contribute to your well being.

    Well folks, now is the time to ante up. We can't afford to wait until this reaches a congressional committee to call out for changes. We need to devise a game plan now. Now is the time to come up with a strategy to spread the word. We need to convince our domain partners to join the ICA. Write to your account representatives and ask why they won't join. The more financial support the organization has, the more they can help you.

    My first recommendation for the ICA is to create a few smaller committees made up of regular domain investors. They need fundraising - so start a fundraising committee. Publicity will be key - so start a publicity committee. What else is needed? Open a private forum for the committees to convene to devise game plans. The more people who are involved in the ICA, the more others will be willing to commit funds and time, and the more this organization will look like a true industry trade group instead of a mouthpiece for the wealthy. Sign me up - I want to help.

    Whether you like the ICA or not, now is the time we need to be our own advocates. You can start by reading the ICA position paper and Digging It. The more Diggs, the more people will read the article and know the facts. This is something we can not afford to lose.

    http://digg.com/politics/Snowe_Bill_...me_Registrants
    Last edited by EJS; 03-03-2008 at 12:19 PM.

  2. #2
    Platinum Lifetime Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Online
    Posts
    234
    DNF$
    168
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    168
    Donate  
    I wanted to read the bill personally and inform myself. Here is a link to the proposed legislation:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:1:./temp/~c110fSc742:b1387:

    *Edit looks like the above link times out. So to get access to the bill do the following:

    1. Visit http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c110query.html
    2. Enter keyword: "phishing"
    3. Should be result #1, click on [S.2661.IS] Link.

    or another way to access the bill:

    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...2661is.txt.pdf

    I hate to read legal stuff but im forcing myself to read and analyze this bill and everyone here should.
    Last edited by intellect; 03-03-2008 at 06:30 PM.

  3. #3
    maroulis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Dallas, TX
    Posts
    2,278
    DNF$
    2,733
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    2,733
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by intellect View Post
    I wanted to read the bill personally and inform myself. Here is a link to the proposed legislation:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:1:./temp/~c110fSc742:b1387:

    *Edit looks like the above link times out. So to get access to the bill do the following:

    1. Visit http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c110query.html
    2. Enter keyword: "phishing"
    3. Should be result #1, click on [S.2661.IS] Link.
    I downloaded the pdf version from same site.. got it on my dedicated server here

  4. #4
    DNF Addict
    sashas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    New Delhi
    Posts
    1,901
    DNF$
    5,456
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    5,456
    Donate  
    I think every serious domainer from this forum should pledge at least $100 to ICA if they're capable of fighting this. There are many of us from around the world, and if ICA can show the support of people from a multitude of backgrounds, it'll lend a lot more credibility to their postition

    This bill is, simply put, wrong. This bill literally says that:
    1. America controls the internet. It does not.
    2. If you buy real estate with the intent of developing it later, you're doing something illegal, just as parking a domain is illegal too
    Building AdSense sites? This theme gives 10% CTR!
    Writers Available:
    PM me for details.

  5. #5
    Exclusive Lifetime Member
    tekz999's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Posts
    6,543
    Blog Entries
    2
    Country

    Hong Kong
    DNF$
    84,354
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    84,354
    Donate  
    Can we pledge $100 to ICA to fire Snowe instead?
    "YOU'RE FIRED! 'CAUSE THE DOMAINERS SAY SO!"

  6. #6
    Exclusive Lifetime Member
    mediawizard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Mumbai, India
    Posts
    988
    Country

    India
    DNF$
    1,035
    Bank
    16,363
    Total DNF$
    17,398
    Donate  
    While I'm all for supporting the ICA in the fight against this... I have a feeling its a losing battle.

    Who's not going to support an anti-phishing bill?

    Am sure most of the small business stats quoted in there were taken without letting them know what the ramifications were.

  7. #7
    Gold Lifetime Member
    Asperger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Derbyshire - UK
    Posts
    169
    DNF$
    939
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    939
    Donate  
    It's yet more sneaky slight-of-hand by the Republics.

  8. #8
    DNF Addict
    sashas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    New Delhi
    Posts
    1,901
    DNF$
    5,456
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    5,456
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by Asperger View Post
    It's yet more sneaky slight-of-hand by the Republics.
    then lets hope the Democrats win before this bill is passed


    I can't imagine this passing through IF the severely anti-democratic nature of this bill is brought into focus properly.

    America is turning ****ing communist, only that the power is with the corporations, rather than the government
    Building AdSense sites? This theme gives 10% CTR!
    Writers Available:
    PM me for details.

  9. #9
    Making Everything Click
    Focus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    9,616
    DNF$
    17,352
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    17,352
    Donate  
    http://www.dnforum.com/f31/whats-ste...ad-282963.html


    We all have to do what we can here to stop this madness!
    I'm buying credit, banking, loan, insurance related generics in .com, .net, .org with high search volumes/traffic. Will consider typos too! - PLEASE PM with name, info, & asking price!

  10. #10
    Exclusive Lifetime Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Audubon, PA
    Posts
    99
    DNF$
    923
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    923
    Donate  
    .
    Last edited by audubon; 01-25-2012 at 06:58 AM.

  11. #11
    Dances With Dogs
    Gerry's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    PortaPotty
    Posts
    17,857
    Country

    Trinidad Tobago
    DNF$
    23,009
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    23,009
    Donate  
    Elliot,

    Has other domain forums, blogs, journals, etc picked up on this story?

    "Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
    Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom

  12. #12
    DNF Addict
    sashas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    New Delhi
    Posts
    1,901
    DNF$
    5,456
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    5,456
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by audubon View Post
    The bill is co-sponsored by Bill Nelson, a democrat (D-FL).
    Then lets just have the Communists take over. They just lost in the Russian elections yesterday, but I'm pretty sure they'll win big in the US IF the commies just change their policies and become pro big-business.

    Seriously, for the past decade, it seems that America is being run by Walmart, Microsoft and Shell
    Building AdSense sites? This theme gives 10% CTR!
    Writers Available:
    PM me for details.

  13. #13
    Making Everything Click
    Focus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    9,616
    DNF$
    17,352
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    17,352
    Donate  
    http://billnelson.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm


    Please let Bill Nelson of Florida know how you feel about this Bill at this direct link...
    I'm buying credit, banking, loan, insurance related generics in .com, .net, .org with high search volumes/traffic. Will consider typos too! - PLEASE PM with name, info, & asking price!

  14. #14
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    Rubber Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    2,851
    DNF$
    3,296
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    3,296
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by sashas View Post
    I think every serious domainer from this forum should pledge at least $100 to ICA if they're capable of fighting this. There are many of us from around the world, and if ICA can show the support of people from a multitude of backgrounds, it'll lend a lot more credibility to their postition

    This bill is, simply put, wrong. This bill literally says that:
    1. America controls the internet. It does not.
    2. If you buy real estate with the intent of developing it later, you're doing something illegal, just as parking a domain is illegal too
    This is precisely why the World must insist that America relinquishes control of the Internet.

    Frankly, because ICA has been fighting ICANN independence, I find them ill-suited to protect my interests.
    Yours, Rubber Duck

    Please note that any historic offers over a month old are null and void.

  15. #15
    Making Everything Click
    Focus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    9,616
    DNF$
    17,352
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    17,352
    Donate  
    So then who will duck?
    I'm buying credit, banking, loan, insurance related generics in .com, .net, .org with high search volumes/traffic. Will consider typos too! - PLEASE PM with name, info, & asking price!

  16. #16
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    Rubber Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    2,851
    DNF$
    3,296
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    3,296
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by Focus View Post
    So then who will duck?
    Well, with them taking their current tack, I would be happier to drift aimlessly under an independent ICANN. Yes, it is that serious!
    Yours, Rubber Duck

    Please note that any historic offers over a month old are null and void.

  17. #17
    Making Everything Click
    Focus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    9,616
    DNF$
    17,352
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    17,352
    Donate  
    So your answer is ICANN? How do they, and can they stop this?
    I'm buying credit, banking, loan, insurance related generics in .com, .net, .org with high search volumes/traffic. Will consider typos too! - PLEASE PM with name, info, & asking price!

  18. #18
    Exclusive Lifetime Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Audubon, PA
    Posts
    99
    DNF$
    923
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    923
    Donate  
    .
    Last edited by audubon; 01-25-2012 at 06:58 AM.

  19. #19
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    Rubber Duck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    2,851
    DNF$
    3,296
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    3,296
    Donate  
    Domains should not be under US jurisdiction in the first place.

    If they are not, then Congress can do its bloody worst as far as I am concerned.

    Don't think any of this really affects me though being non-resident.
    Yours, Rubber Duck

    Please note that any historic offers over a month old are null and void.

  20. #20
    Exclusive Lifetime Member
    mediawizard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Mumbai, India
    Posts
    988
    Country

    India
    DNF$
    1,035
    Bank
    16,363
    Total DNF$
    17,398
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubber Duck View Post
    Don't think any of this really affects me though being non-resident.
    Do you own any .com / .net?

    Then this affects you as verisign is US based.

    Sign the petition - link in my sig!!

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Domain name forum recommended by Domaining.com