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**ceint** · 09-24-2006, 08:01 PM

Hello,

Does anyone know how I can check if a domain name has been blacklisted or put in the google sandbox?

**pigman** · 09-24-2006, 08:06 PM

Cant find CEINT

**ceint** · 09-24-2006, 08:12 PM

Yep, that's the domain.

I used to run a different type of business on that domain name. Prior to starting the CEINT.COM Poker Club on that domain name the domain was "dead" during the period between when the other business died and the ceint pc was started. The poker site has been live a few months now, but google has still not yet picked it up.

So I am wondering if I can do something to get it indexed or if I just need to have patience and let things ride by itself.

**pigman** · 09-24-2006, 08:31 PM

One way is to point a domain that is indexed by .htaccess that is has permanently moved to this new one. I think that could work.

**ceint** · 09-25-2006, 08:18 AM

Thank you.

I used the service here ( http://whois.domaintools.com/ceint.com ) to check if ceint.com was blacklisted by google. It say's no.

But the issue is that the whois at domain tools shows this:
Website Title: 400 Bad Behavior

What could it be that is causing this. My guess now is that this is what google also get when crawling the site.

How can I correct this as I see no errors when browsing the website and MSN has not problems indexing the site.

**stockshark** · 09-25-2006, 01:47 PM

I have recently been having serious doubts about google as a search engine due to the inconsistencies. My site routinely disappears, then comes back, then disappears again, sometimes it shows up in the site: command other times it doesn't. How many other sites does this happen to on a daily basis? Lots I assume. Yet nobody can really explain what the issue is. Is google broken? With Yahoo and MSN, my site's position flucuates in the result rankings (as it should), but it never actually disappears, then comes back and disappears again. I can always tell just by looking at my traffic stats when google is acting up again because the traffic just mysteriously drops for no apparent reason.

I am not sure I can give you any advice other than maybe your site will come back again in a few weeks. I had found that just because you can't find it with the site: command doesn't necessarily mean it was dropped from google's index...

**pigman** · 09-25-2006, 04:34 PM

Google updates all the time so ofcourse there should be inconsistencies.

**stockshark** · 09-25-2006, 11:33 PM

Yes but doesn't Yahoo and MSN also update all the time? I have never been dropped from either of those search engines at all, much less for a week or more, only to come back for a few days then drop off, then come back again. And I know I wasn't banned because after disappearing eventually I would come back again. This could be the sandbox effect, but I don't know for sure...

**pigman** · 09-26-2006, 12:43 AM

You have probably been banned or sandboxed.

**SuccessClick** · 09-26-2006, 06:48 AM

Google is constantly checking and rechecking domains/sites against bot traffic, ie. russian spam, bot clicks, for their adword fraud checks. The inconsistencies you see are their "alleged" shutting down certain IP locations temporarily to run stat checks against "normal" traffic.

My law is this: "Rely on Google for your income, better have a day job". You can go crazy AND waste huge amounts of valuable time and effort trying to "figure" them out. The only thing that is true is this: Lots of pages with relevant content and a domain name that is identical to the search term. Get your standard SEO boost ($29.95 at http://www.EasyWebPages.net) and work on building content.

Even if you're blacklisted or sandboxed, if you find out why, make the proper adjustments to adhere to regs, in a few months you will be back in the system again. Don't fret or freak on Google placement. It's a waste of time. Focus on content and relevant keyword domains for your site. Build it, and they will come.

**stockshark** · 09-26-2006, 11:04 AM

Quote:

My law is this: "Rely on Google for your income, better have a day job".

I totally 100% agree.

During my research into the issue I had read a few horror stories of legit sites being mysteriously dropped or banned from google and then having revenues drop 60% or more because they were so dependant on google for traffic and sales. That experience for me certainly reiterated the value of type-in traffic and why such a premium is paid for domains that get it.

**trader** · 09-26-2006, 11:40 AM

The easiest way to see if listed or not is to simply typein the domain with its extension into the Google search box using quotes.

**Momentum** · 10-03-2006, 03:22 PM

Looks like you are listed now:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...=1&q=ceint.com

Your title appears to be correct, but as a suggestion, you should get rid of that huge comment line right above the title.

Best of luck!

Mr.Domains · 10-04-2006, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceint

So I am wondering if I can do something to get it indexed or if I just need to have patience and let things ride by itself.

Well it looks as if you've been spidered now, but for future reference, I run a service for $10 to get your site spidered by Google within a week or your money back. It's a quick way to get your site indexed.

**Sinfully Wicked** · 10-30-2006, 05:12 AM

I notice the majority of Ceint.com is in the supplemental index of Google so if i was you i would change those articles you have on there because there dupe's, if not you will slowly but surely see the pages slip out of Google. It's what blackhatters call "The slow death" - if you need some tips on how to sort out the problem let me know and ill help.

Thank you

Sin

Mr.Domains · 10-30-2006, 08:24 AM

Hi Sinfully Wicked,
I'm intrigued, how can you tell if pages are in Google's "supplimental" index?
This is not something I am familiar with...
Regards,

Neil

**Sinfully Wicked** · 10-30-2006, 08:33 AM

Mr Domains - just use the Google Operator:-

site:www.yourdomain.com

You will see on the sixth result down:-

ceint.com - Business opportunity info. This website is for sale!The first internet search engine for domain offers, which are for sale. We have over 1.500.000 domains in our database. If you have domains/URLs to offer, ...
www.ceint.com/freecounter/ - 51k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

All the pages before that are unique

Thank you

Sin

Mr.Domains · 10-30-2006, 09:21 AM

Okay, never noticed that before, thanks!

**Sinfully Wicked** · 10-30-2006, 09:36 AM

No problem

Sin

**Marval** · 11-13-2006, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceint

Thank you.

I used the service here ( http://whois.domaintools.com/ceint.com ) to check if ceint.com was blacklisted by google. It say's no.

But the issue is that the whois at domain tools shows this:
Website Title: 400 Bad Behavior

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First off - using that tool(whois.domaintools) doesnt show if you are blacklisted by Google - that blacklist is run by a separate organization that mostly is triggered by spam emails and ISP reports - although there is some speculation that Google knows about that blacklist it has never made a site drop out of their index that Ive seen

Second - that Website title is being presented by your host - that is a 400 page generate by your host when either you have used the domain for spamming or in some cases when the domain was reported to them for copyright or DMCA infringements - again nothing to do with Google indexing your site

Last - Google knows about around 850 of your pages on that site - the supplemental index is a backup index Google keeps of pages that it figures are either gone (404s, 301s, 410s etc) or they have determined the pages to be duplicates of other pages - they keep them in the database typically for about a year and then purge them
Your index page is not supplemental so it looks like it was indexed properly - about a week ago was the last indexing of that page