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**JuniperPark** · 07-27-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider

Pools policy is NOT going to change

They changed it when they got boycotted over the "double blind sealed bid against yourself" fiasco a couple of years ago.

**Doc Com** · 07-27-2009, 09:40 PM

Isn't it great?

Not only are we bidding against legitimate bidders, we are bidding against known bogus bidders - now some believe we should bid against hypothetical bidders or situations.

It is the what if factor -

What if someone wanted to bid more.

I dig the hell out of this thread Richard. You are so busy grasping at straws and want to do your damn best to define the what if scenarios without dealing with the problem that you actually have.

Here is the what if you should be dealing with -

what if domainers on and off this forum are reading this thread and
what if those people are reading the same response you give (a hypothetical scenario in an attempt to define an actual problem) and
what if everyone can read through the cloud of bullshit and pool is going to do nothing to eliminate bogus bidding and
what if everyone gets the message that there is a real trust factor at stake here and that trust factor is losing trust in Pool.

That is a real result to a real problem all the while Pool wants to continue blowing smoke up someones' ass.

**irongloves** · 07-28-2009, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theinvestor

No one likes to pay more than they should have !!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Com

I dumped pool and quit my business with them quite sometime ago.

Well, that's as clear as the sun that TheInvestor is right.

If there's a fraud or shilling or bogus bid or non-paying bidder on an auction, the best choice is to re-auction the domain name.

I've been a user of Pool.com years ago but literally DUMPED them after the .asia affair (http://www.dotasia-complot.org/)

I'm an actual user of SN and NJ (spending US$80k/year) and they are ok even if they have problems sometimes with bidders going to inflate prices (but that happens everywhere, even on eBay).

**sdsinc** · 07-28-2009, 09:53 AM

I say:

restart the auction
reset all bids to minimum values
allow past bidders to drop out of the auction in case they are no longer interested in the name

Now that is fair.

**Doc Com** · 07-28-2009, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsinc

I say:[LIST][*]restart the auction

Chances are that if you, a legitimate bidder, bid on an auction and lost, you most likely re-allocated those funds to something else.

If two weeks later you are made the offer to buy that lost domain or get into a reauction, that changes very little except make for perpetual auctions.

And, it does very little to correct the problem to begin with. Especially when you have knowledge of a bogus bidder and continue to allow that same bogus bidder to bid in other auctions.

Nothing is solved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by irongloves

I've been a user of Pool.com years ago but literally DUMPED them after the .asia affair (http://www.dotasia-complot.org/)

Just another example, like this thread, of a Pool.com policy that benefits Pool.com.

In one case you have the auctioneer knowing precisely what needs to be bid to win premium auction for them(him)self.

And in another case you have Pool.com allowing bogus bids and then trying to pass on the sale to the second bidder or else - we'll re-auction.

**mclovin** · 07-28-2009, 06:20 PM

Interesting Thread!

So, I take it then, that I could go onto Pool and bid up as many names as high as I want and not pay, right? Sounds like a lot of mischief could be done here. Btw, has anyone actually tried it - I mean, to bid up an auction at Pool (or any other auction) and just deadbeat to see what they'll do? Because, seriously, what happens to all the deadbeat bidders who can bid again and again and again?

Because if there's no consequence to deadbeating then what's to stop a small army of pissed off domainers to fake bid everything on Pool and just ruin it?

Just digging for some answers...

**victornumber** · 07-28-2009, 06:24 PM

the answer: nothing unless the terms of service gets changed.

**Raider** · 07-28-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsinc

I say:

restart the auction
reset all bids to minimum values
allow past bidders to drop out of the auction in case they are no longer interested in the name

Now that is fair.

Agree, And ban the deadbeat from ever bidding on Pool again.

**theinvestor** · 09-14-2009, 11:07 AM

Just an update... but i have yet to see an auction yet for the names i was offered to buy previously because of the bogus bidder. Are they re-auctioning the names or not?

**Raider** · 09-14-2009, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theinvestor

Just an update... but i have yet to see an auction yet for the names i was offered to buy previously because of the bogus bidder. Are they re-auctioning the names or not?

All the names that were offered to me and turned down, were owned by Pool and parked at pool, they kept them for years.

**theinvestor** · 09-14-2009, 11:40 AM

Well....they told me i had a week to accept/reject offer and then they would be put back on auction within a week.... i guess not.

**Wzhxvy** · 09-15-2009, 09:33 PM

Hey Pool I was in all these auctions...happy to participate again, they are nice names

I have never had an issue with Pool !

**denny007** · 09-15-2009, 11:25 PM

I am not using Pool anymore because I am tired of losing domains at their "partner" registrars and Pool does not give a crap, once you paid is your problem they tell you.
Enetica
Domainpeople
etc.
(spent there in the past total $246,000 and they still do not give a crap)

**Domainator** · 09-17-2009, 12:47 PM

Me too...

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny007

I am not using Pool anymore because I am tired of losing domains at their "partner" registrars and Pool does not give a crap, once you paid is your problem they tell you.
Enetica
Domainpeople
etc.
(spent there in the past total $246,000 and they still do not give a crap)

**Spex** · 09-18-2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny007

I am not using Pool anymore because I am tired of losing domains at their "partner" registrars and Pool does not give a crap, once you paid is your problem they tell you.
Enetica
Domainpeople
etc.
(spent there in the past total $246,000 and they still do not give a crap)

Same here. And these partners are all located in the same building, yet pass you back and forth trying to play them off as completely separate entities.

here are a few more...

domainsatcost.ca
Zidodomain.ca Inc.
DomainMall.ca Inc.

**denny007** · 09-20-2009, 12:15 AM

^No those are OK those all belong to Pool and are managed via Namescout panel...while this panel is horrible (probably programmed by some moron who never owned a single domain) - no bulk operations - but you never lose domains there

I am talking about partners like ENETICA PTY LTD, M.G. INFOCOM PVT. LTD. DBA MINDGENIES, NETTUNER CORP. DBA WEBMASTERS.COM, OMNIS NETWORK, 123 REGISTRATION, DOMAINPEOPLE etc

**DomainName** · 10-01-2009, 01:49 AM

POOL is terrible! Why is it always difficult to transfer names out of this place. Seems like every time I have a name there, I have to jump through hoops to get the name out. POOL has officially lost my business. No name is worth this amount of hassle!

**theinvestor** · 11-10-2009, 11:03 AM

I am still waiting for the re-auction to the names that were won by a sham bidder.

I was told this auction was going to happen months ago if i did not accept their agreement to buy at the inflated price.

What's the update?

**Pool.com** · 11-10-2009, 01:38 PM

theinvestor... PM the names and I will look into it.

**theinvestor** · 11-10-2009, 01:40 PM

PM sent

07-27-2009, 09:40 PM	#82 (permalink)
Doc Com Dances With Dogs Name: info [@] gerry.mobi Last Online: Today 02:03 AM iTrader: (73) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 10,306 DNF$: 25,529 Country:	Isn't it great? Not only are we bidding against legitimate bidders, we are bidding against known bogus bidders - now some believe we should bid against hypothetical bidders or situations. It is the what if factor - What if someone wanted to bid more. I dig the hell out of this thread Richard. You are so busy grasping at straws and want to do your damn best to define the what if scenarios without dealing with the problem that you actually have. Here is the what if you should be dealing with - what if domainers on and off this forum are reading this thread and what if those people are reading the same response you give (a hypothetical scenario in an attempt to define an actual problem) and what if everyone can read through the cloud of bullshit and pool is going to do nothing to eliminate bogus bidding and what if everyone gets the message that there is a real trust factor at stake here and that trust factor is losing trust in Pool. That is a real result to a real problem all the while Pool wants to continue blowing smoke up someones' ass. __________________ Conservative With A Conscience

07-28-2009, 09:53 AM	#84 (permalink)
sdsinc Missing in action Name: Kate Last Online: Yesterday 05:01 PM iTrader: (41) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,671 DNF$: 28,105 Location: .cz Country:	I say: restart the auction reset all bids to minimum values allow past bidders to drop out of the auction in case they are no longer interested in the name Now that is fair.

07-28-2009, 06:24 PM	#87 (permalink)
victornumber Exclusive Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 12:54 PM iTrader: (24) Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 887 DNF$: 12	the answer: nothing unless the terms of service gets changed. __________________ buying lll.ca and generics. PM list and prices

09-15-2009, 09:33 PM	#92 (permalink)
Wzhxvy Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 11:36 PM iTrader: (15) Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 230 DNF$: 503 Location: Canada	Hey Pool I was in all these auctions...happy to participate again, they are nice names I have never had an issue with Pool ! __________________ Looking for high traffic, low revenue .ca domains. PM me.

09-15-2009, 11:25 PM	#93 (permalink)
denny007 Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 07:00 AM iTrader: (40) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,445 DNF$: 10,356 Country:	I am not using Pool anymore because I am tired of losing domains at their "partner" registrars and Pool does not give a crap, once you paid is your problem they tell you. Enetica Domainpeople etc. (spent there in the past total $246,000 and they still do not give a crap) __________________ I have PM disabled. You can email me: denny startseek com ThankYouDHL.com Last edited by denny007; 09-15-2009 at 11:38 PM..

07-28-2009, 06:20 PM	#86 (permalink)
mclovin Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 09-11-2009 11:57 PM iTrader: (34) Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 565 DNF$: 110 Location: USA Country:	Interesting Thread! So, I take it then, that I could go onto Pool and bid up as many names as high as I want and not pay, right? Sounds like a lot of mischief could be done here. Btw, has anyone actually tried it - I mean, to bid up an auction at Pool (or any other auction) and just deadbeat to see what they'll do? Because, seriously, what happens to all the deadbeat bidders who can bid again and again and again? Because if there's no consequence to deadbeating then what's to stop a small army of pissed off domainers to fake bid everything on Pool and just ruin it? Just digging for some answers...

09-14-2009, 11:07 AM	#89 (permalink)
theinvestor Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 01:29 AM iTrader: (34) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,293 DNF$: 0 Location: Toronto, Canada Country:	Just an update... but i have yet to see an auction yet for the names i was offered to buy previously because of the bogus bidder. Are they re-auctioning the names or not?

09-14-2009, 11:40 AM	#91 (permalink)
theinvestor Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 01:29 AM iTrader: (34) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,293 DNF$: 0 Location: Toronto, Canada Country:	Well....they told me i had a week to accept/reject offer and then they would be put back on auction within a week.... i guess not.

09-20-2009, 12:15 AM	#96 (permalink)
denny007 Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 07:00 AM iTrader: (40) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,445 DNF$: 10,356 Country:	^No those are OK those all belong to Pool and are managed via Namescout panel...while this panel is horrible (probably programmed by some moron who never owned a single domain) - no bulk operations - but you never lose domains there I am talking about partners like ENETICA PTY LTD, M.G. INFOCOM PVT. LTD. DBA MINDGENIES, NETTUNER CORP. DBA WEBMASTERS.COM, OMNIS NETWORK, 123 REGISTRATION, DOMAINPEOPLE etc __________________ I have PM disabled. You can email me: denny startseek com ThankYouDHL.com

10-01-2009, 01:49 AM	#97 (permalink)
DomainName Live, Eat, Breathe Names Last Online: Yesterday 11:40 PM iTrader: (19) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 808 DNF$: 88 Country:	POOL is terrible! Why is it always difficult to transfer names out of this place. Seems like every time I have a name there, I have to jump through hoops to get the name out. POOL has officially lost my business. No name is worth this amount of hassle! __________________ My Countdown Counting down to: Until a new year 37 days 17 hours 59 minutes

11-10-2009, 11:03 AM	#98 (permalink)
theinvestor Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 01:29 AM iTrader: (34) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,293 DNF$: 0 Location: Toronto, Canada Country:	I am still waiting for the re-auction to the names that were won by a sham bidder. I was told this auction was going to happen months ago if i did not accept their agreement to buy at the inflated price. What's the update?

11-10-2009, 01:38 PM	#99 (permalink)
Pool.com Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 05:47 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 78 DNF$: 200 Location: Ottawa	theinvestor... PM the names and I will look into it.

11-10-2009, 01:40 PM	#100 (permalink)
theinvestor Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 01:29 AM iTrader: (34) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,293 DNF$: 0 Location: Toronto, Canada Country:	PM sent

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