Welcome to Welcome to DNF.com™ - Domain Sales, Domain Forum, Domain Appraisals, Domain Registrars

If you are new to domains and looking to buy, sell and learn about domains then you have come to the right place. DNForum is the largest domain name community on the internet and continues to grow every day. There are over 105,000 domainers on DNForum doing everything from buying domains, selling domains, learning about domains and discussing domains. Take a minute and Register.

Register Today on DNForum IT'S FREE!

Results 1 to 19 of 19
  1. #1
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    domaingenius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    1,238
    Blog Entries
    1
    DNF$
    1,811
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,811
    Donate  

    GoDaddy question

    Did'nt Icann bring in a rule that 60 days exclusion from transfer
    is not allowed anymore ?.
    I just wondered how that sits with GD rules ?.

    DG

  2. #2
    Moderator
    Johnn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Posts
    15,008
    Country

    United States
    DNF$
    5,431
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    5,431
    Donate  
    As far as I know it is still applied at GD. I know when I tried to transfer some names out to Moniker for the TRAFFIC auction.

    However, you can get it done with the right connection!

  3. #3
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    domaingenius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    1,238
    Blog Entries
    1
    DNF$
    1,811
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,811
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnn View Post
    As far as I know it is still applied at GD. I know when I tried to transfer some names out to Moniker for the TRAFFIC auction.

    However, you can get it done with the right connection!
    Thanks John. Hmm "right connection"...

    DG

  4. #4
    þórr mjǫlnir
    draggar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    12,874
    Country

    Czech Republic
    DNF$
    6,977
    Bank
    116,559
    Total DNF$
    123,536
    Donate  
    I think it applied to when you change your contact information with a registrar, which GoDaddy locked your domain for 60 days with, not new registrations & transfers.
    Save the wolves - join The Wolf Army today!
    Please follow the rules or suffer the wrath of Thor's Hammer.

  5. #5
    DNF Addict

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    4,510
    DNF$
    16,397
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    16,397
    Donate  
    Hundreds of complaints have been filed with ICANN about this over many years. ICANN just ignores all the complaints and never answers why they don't enforce the rules. Their attoney is Christine Jones and one she answered me about this by stating that ICANN knows it as if since they know, they permit it.

    ICANN recently reiterated their rules and made a public announcement that they were going to crack down on registrars who did this. I filed some complaints against GoDaddy and ICANN again did not answer. Godaddy locked it past the expiration date so I had to renew. I would like to get refunds for these forced renewals.
    Network-Tools.com - Network Tools since 1998

  6. #6
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    domaingenius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    1,238
    Blog Entries
    1
    DNF$
    1,811
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,811
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyword Factory View Post
    Hundreds of complaints have been filed with ICANN about this over many years. ICANN just ignores all the complaints and never answers why they don't enforce the rules. Their attoney is Christine Jones and one she answered me about this by stating that ICANN knows it as if since they know, they permit it.

    ICANN recently reiterated their rules and made a public announcement that they were going to crack down on registrars who did this. I filed some complaints against GoDaddy and ICANN again did not answer. Godaddy locked it past the expiration date so I had to renew. I would like to get refunds for these forced renewals.
    Hmm, well since "GoDaddy is now a member of this forum perhaps he would like
    to comment ?. Perhaps there might be an exclusion for domainers ,or
    am I hoping too much ?

    DG

  7. #7
    Domain Maniac
    doc24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    642
    Country

    United States
    DNF$
    5,143
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    5,143
    Donate  
    Get your GD rep to help on that.

  8. #8
    DNF Addict
    jdk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    7,082
    Country

    United States
    DNF$
    1,163
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,163
    Donate  
    I believe they said it was "optional" however it would not allow you to NOT CHECK the box that you agreed for them to hold your name for 60 days when you made the correction.

    I would be curious to see if Adam or the GoDaddy member here cares to comment on the issue as it has been brought up many times without a good excuse. It would be good to hear something other than "talk to your rep"

    MAYBE it is there for those who do not know any better, but for us domainers who actually know can simply ask and have the hold removed. I tried asking before but was given the same cut and paste response in 5 emails before they said politely i was S.O.L.

  9. #9
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    domaingenius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    1,238
    Blog Entries
    1
    DNF$
    1,811
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,811
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by jdk View Post
    I believe they said it was "optional" however it would not allow you to NOT CHECK the box that you agreed for them to hold your name for 60 days when you made the correction.

    I would be curious to see if Adam or the GoDaddy member here cares to comment on the issue as it has been brought up many times without a good excuse. It would be good to hear something other than "talk to your rep"

    MAYBE it is there for those who do not know any better, but for us domainers who actually know can simply ask and have the hold removed. I tried asking before but was given the same cut and paste response in 5 emails before they said politely i was S.O.L.
    Well said. No definitive answer has ever been received and wonder what the
    problem is . Its fine trying to keep customers ,but locking them in
    is a short cut route to that.

    DG

  10. #10
    DNF Addict

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    4,510
    DNF$
    16,397
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    16,397
    Donate  
    You will never get an answer because GoDaddy's attorney, Christine Jones, will tell them not to respond. That is the way that company operates. Your entire portfolio results on the whims of this Christine Jones who is an unstable and unreasable idiot. Just read some of the legal issues surrounding Godaddy and you will see what she is like. Any domain with Godaddy is at risk.
    Network-Tools.com - Network Tools since 1998

  11. #11
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    domaingenius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    1,238
    Blog Entries
    1
    DNF$
    1,811
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,811
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyword Factory View Post
    You will never get an answer because GoDaddy's attorney, Christine Jones, will tell them not to respond. That is the way that company operates. Your entire portfolio results on the whims of this Christine Jones who is an unstable and unreasable idiot. Just read some of the legal issues surrounding Godaddy and you will see what she is like. Any domain with Godaddy is at risk.
    I am surprised therefore that they can show their faces on DNForum if
    they do not even have the balls to speak. What's wrong GoDaddy, do
    you KNOW that you are doing something wrong and too embarrassed to
    talk about it ?. Is that really what Bob Parsons has come down to ?.
    Come on grow some balls and answer at least ,whatever the answer
    is.

    DG

  12. #12
    DNF Addict

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    4,510
    DNF$
    16,397
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    16,397
    Donate  
    Don't forget the time Parsons showed up at a domain conference with bodyguards. I heard they almost started a fight with people trying to use the elevator because his body guards claimed nobody could ride the elevator with him for security.

    They won't answer because they know it violates the ICANN/registry rules and any statements could create a liability to the company. They used to say it was for "security" but ICAANN said they couldn't use that reason so now they just don't give a reason and ignore any complaints. This issue has also gone to the US DEpartment of Commerce who oversees ICANN and they won't do anything or respond either. Cathy Smith is the attorney for the UJS Department of Commerce at http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/orgchart.htm

    However, they will look for excuses to blow you off as they are government employees who don't care other than ICANN provides them with free vacation trips around the world.
    Network-Tools.com - Network Tools since 1998

  13. #13
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    domaingenius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    1,238
    Blog Entries
    1
    DNF$
    1,811
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,811
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyword Factory View Post
    Don't forget the time Parsons showed up at a domain conference with bodyguards. I heard they almost started a fight with people trying to use the elevator because his body guards claimed nobody could ride the elevator with him for security.

    They won't answer because they know it violates the ICANN/registry rules and any statements could create a liability to the company. They used to say it was for "security" but ICAANN said they couldn't use that reason so now they just don't give a reason and ignore any complaints. This issue has also gone to the US DEpartment of Commerce who oversees ICANN and they won't do anything or respond either. Cathy Smith is the attorney for the UJS Department of Commerce at http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/orgchart.htm

    However, they will look for excuses to blow you off as they are government employees who don't care other than ICANN provides them with free vacation trips around the world.
    Yes seems that behind the fascade of respectability and the nice words
    to bring in punters they really are not giving a damn about abiding by any
    rules but their own. Shame on them and the others that treat customers
    like pawns and mugs. They have taken the easy route .

    Maybe Im wrong, perhaps there is a good reason ,but come on GD
    get some balls and tell us !.

    DG

  14. #14
    DNF Addict
    jdk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    7,082
    Country

    United States
    DNF$
    1,163
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,163
    Donate  
    Quote Originally Posted by Keyword Factory View Post
    However, they will look for excuses to blow you off as they are government employees who don't care other than ICANN provides them with free vacation trips around the world.
    And on top of the increase, registrars implement their own increase in prices.
    Last edited by jdk; 10-12-2008 at 12:02 PM.

  15. #15
    Exclusive Lifetime Member
    Tia Wood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    3,675
    Country

    United States
    DNF$
    543
    Bank
    2,627
    Total DNF$
    3,170
    Donate  
    Looks like GoDaddy came by to "make an appearance". I haven't seen the GoDaddy rep tell us who he is. And answers such as "go to your account rep to have 60 day lock removed on whois changes" is not acceptable. It shouldn't be there at all for anyone.

  16. #16
    Platinum Lifetime Member
    domaingenius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    1,238
    Blog Entries
    1
    DNF$
    1,811
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    1,811
    Donate  
    Any chance GD has grown some balls yet ?

    DG

  17. #17
    DNF Addict

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    4,510
    DNF$
    16,397
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    16,397
    Donate  
    I saw a post by Kieren McCarthy. He writes for the Guardian and was formerly critical of ICANN. Now they hired him and he gets to go on all the trips. Now look at what he posted in response to a compliance complaint

    http://www.circleid.com/posts/icann_...ce_enforcement

    Now I brought the whole thing up to him, ICANN's General Counsel, ICANN's compliance officer, and the General Council at Dept of Commerce NTIA and pointed out these complaints have been filed for more than five years now.
    Network-Tools.com - Network Tools since 1998

  18. #18
    dvdrip's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Athens Greece
    Posts
    2,713
    DNF$
    14,482
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    14,482
    Donate  
    A reply from GoDaddy would be nice.
    www.bluepixel.gr I like .info!
    Now accepting .gr domain registrations from any foreign company or individual. Contact me for details.

  19. #19
    DNF Addict

    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    4,510
    DNF$
    16,397
    Bank
    0
    Total DNF$
    16,397
    Donate  
    I got a responfrom Kieren McCarthy. At first he tried to pretend he didn't know about the problem but it turns out this GoDaddy transfer issue is the number one complaint to ICANN. The response I received was "Shut up ... Go Bother someone else"

    Conatct Kieren McCarthy, the public participation manager of ICANN for more information
    Network-Tools.com - Network Tools since 1998

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Domain name forum recommended by Domaining.com