invitation to domainsponsor?

[kranick]

i am working with trafficclub.com with the feed domainsponsor for long time and they now have look into my domains and sent an invitation , anyone received one also?

So confused must i accept it?

[MonikerMan]

No - you do not have to accept it. DomainSponsor decided to go and directly solicit our customers...after being a partner of ours for almost 2 years. I guess sometimes it takes that long to discover who you can trust and who you cannot.

Trafficclub will continue to provide the very best monetization solutions in the industry. we will temporarily shift traffic to the highest payout partner while our new solution is in transition. If you have any questions, you can email me directly.

[DOTCA]

Originally Posted by MonikerMan

No - you do not have to accept it. DomainSponsor decided to go and directly solicit our customers...after being a partner of ours for almost 2 years. I guess sometimes it takes that long to discover who you can trust and who you cannot.

Trafficclub will continue to provide the very best monetization solutions in the industry. we will temporarily shift traffic to the highest payout partner while our new solution is in transition. If you have any questions, you can email me directly.

wow.. intresting development here..

[B.King]

I got the same invitation, Bad business ethics IMO

[fab]

Well I also noticed that some domains need to get accepted to DS and Google, since my traffic dropped suddenly.

[wolfis.com]

sorry to hear that about domainsponsor .

[MonikerMan]

Here is the response I posted on another forum - should explain it all:

Response I just posted on the targetedtraffic forum:

As some of you may know, Google decided to make some sweeping changes with their partners regarding 3rd and 4th party feeds. TrafficClub.com was unique as it allowed multiple feeds to compete on a domain by domain basis and select not only the feed but the landing pages that monetized the best for each domain.

DomainSponsor/Oversee was one of 3 Google feed in TrafficClub and WAS considered a partner until yesterday when they decided to do whois look ups and aggregate all contact information they had on TC customers on every domain name and directly solicit our customers. In my opinion and after a direct conversation with their management (after I was even solicited), their intent was to take advantage of the situation and steal our customers. They were actually planning this for days.

Sometimes it takes a while to discover the true colors of companies and their management.

The great news is that they flushed themselves out of the system and revenue and performance will increase as a result. TrafficClub will only get better when we learn from experiences such as these.

My advice is to choose your partners carefully and work with people/companies you can really trust and who are aligned with with you. If you never learn from your mistakes, you will never grow. We just learned from ours.

Things always happen for a reason!

[Banned: navpros]

Originally Posted by DOTCA

wow.. intresting development here..

True. I emailed TC support this morning when I noticed that my "user optimized" settings had been modified and all traffic was going to Skenzo. The response I got was "domainsponsor and google are having issues at this time". Didn't realize that there was anything more to it than that. I have never had any issues with DS, however, my RPC is WAY better at TC than anywhere else with only a handful of names I have parked there. I just hope it gets sorted out soon.

[DomainEngineer]

Well, Ron has explained the situation below.

So no need to guess what happened on my part.

[Banned: navpros]

Originally Posted by MonikerMan

Sometimes it takes a while to discover the true colors of companies and their management.

Thanks for the explanation Monte. Based upon this explanation, I will be moving my domains back to TC for the time being using the Skenzo Feed. I will slowly migrate my others over from DS in the near future.

They really "ticked" me off recently when they decided to make changes in their referral revenue policy. More money for them for my hard work getting people to sign up there, but less for me.

[DomainEngineer]

Originally Posted by navpros

They really "ticked" me off recently when they decided to make changes in their referral revenue policy. More money for them for my hard work getting people to sign up there, but less for me.

I actually like their new policy. HitFarm also gives referal only for few months. Ultimately its the domain owners who should get the most from their domains while referal should be paid fairly, but not forever imo.

[simon]

its strange that you were having issues with Google and DomainSponsor at the same time

[Banned: navpros]

Originally Posted by DomainEngineer

I actually like their new policy. HitFarm has also gives referal only for few months. Ultimately its the domain owners who should get the most from their domains while referal should be paid fairly, but not forever imo.

I chose to send referrals to DS due to the old policy, not the new one. I earned 10% from the DS share, so ultimately, the domain owner still got the same amount as always. Believe me, they earn a significant amount from my referrals and it upsets me to know that they will ALWAYS earn their share, but my share will be severed after 18 months. Just my 2 cents.

[DomainEngineer]

Originally Posted by navpros

I chose to send referrals to DS due to the old policy, not the new one. I earned 10% from the DS share, so ultimately, the domain owner still got the same amount as always. Believe me, they earn a significant amount from my referrals and it upsets me to know that they will ALWAYS earn their share, but my share will be severed after 18 months. Just my 2 cents.

I think 18 months is more than enough. I be happy with 3 months referal.
Being a domain owner I have my expenses to pay so I want that I should get the highest % out of my earnings.

Keep in mind DS has to pay the referal money.....they do not pay out of their pocket...ultimately its your referal's domains that pay it.

In order to survive and compete with other ppc companies AND in order to keep their partners happy by passing the savings on to them in the form of increased payouts, DS need to do it.

[DSRon]

Yesterday we sent out an e-mail inviting TrafficClub customers to deal directly with DomainSponsor.

We would like to apologize if our email notification appeared as “spam”. We were attempting to reach out to customers who were enjoying our DomainSponsor program via TrafficClub. We felt we had good reason and justification to do so but the email did not speak to the reason we were forced to send it. The email was created and sent in haste and failed to give the larger context.

Background: On mid day Friday we were notified by our largest upstream PPC provider that we were to immediately terminate our participation in TrafficClub. We quickly notified TC and apprised them of the situation. TC asked for more time which seemed reasonable. While we were not given more time on our end, we decided to extend the deadline to Wednesday (yesterday) midnight and absorb any financial and legal risks ourselves.

We were expecting an announcement by TC to those customers affected. As of 5:00pm pst on Wednesday no announcement seemed forthcoming, and we saw that as a direct reflection on us. We decided it was necessary to send an announcement on our own. We have been very happy with our relationship with TC and it is with great sadness that we had to terminate it. This was not a DS decision or a TC decision…it was something forced upon us.

We think this development which precipitated our email, is part of a larger effort from the large upstream providers to exert more control over their distribution. In that context, our main concern is to ensure we abide by our terms of service thus ensuring our clients the most sustainable and highest performing experience. That said we could have and should have handled the specific communication better, and we apologize to those directly impacted especially the TrafficClub team. We welcome anyone who has concerns to contact us directly and discuss with us.

In the words of the great Paul Harvey, “Now you know the rest of the story”.

... this message was also posted verbatim on 2 other boards ...

[dolansco]

a very reasonable explanation .. in my opinion.

[wolfis.com]

thank you Ron for explaining this.

[DomainEngineer]

Thanks for clearing up. It appears DS had no choice.

[DSRon]

Originally Posted by wolfis.com

thank you Ron for explaining this.

You're welcome Wolfis. Thank you for taking the time to read it.

[typist]

Google decided to make some sweeping changes with their partners regarding 3rd and 4th party feeds.

we were notified by our largest upstream PPC provider that we were to immediately terminate our participation in TrafficClub.

I'm not sure if I fully understand what's happening here. Google wants more control - but why would terminating the DS / TC partnership help from a Google perspective? Simply to peel away one layer to make distribution less complex?