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I'm celebrating this 4th as I am happy with the current leadership. Am I 100% thrilled? No, but I like what I see overall.Originally Posted by Gregcyber
But please remind us of the great things accomplished for our country under President Bush so we can celebrate together. I'll even start.
George Bush tripled the aid given to Africa. This was very cool of him and I'm sure it helps America's image in the region and provides much needed help to people who are suffering:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...123000941.html
For this I applaud George W Bush.
Same thing with his comments about the state of the economy up until March of this year. Peers, including Clinton (sound familiar) scolded him about being too negative on the state of the economy. Then since March its been "green shoots, glimmer of hope, things really don't seem that bad, etc., etc.". Sounds like on the job training to me. But those that voted for him knew he was inexperienced, didn't they. I thinks it's obvious that Obama is not proactive, he's reactive. Reacting to the greater pressure. The last thing I want see in a president.
No, no, no...
What she is saying is there is still profits to be made, raping and plundering of our resources, and pillaging of the countries coffers that the Cheney/Bush era were not able to accomplish all before departing.
The rich definitely got richer and the poor got, well - royally ****ed.
Lets all join hands and celebrate a new modern day high unemployment rate of 9.5%.
Honestly, and I say this with all sincerity, never in my life of over 50 years have I ever heard such whining and pissing and throwing a hissie fit from such a most immature, bratty, non-appreciative bunch of pissants in all my life - in such a short time.
Comments made by members on this forum regarding laying the blame on Obama from day one have got to be some of the most ignorant and lame comments I have ever read in my life. To immediately pile on the criticism and blame game from day one shows the poor character and judgment of the person making those comments. To miraculously forget how we got to where we are today is blessed bliss of blindness - blindness of not only site but thought, speech, and hearing.
If you imbeciles are that blinded by Bush and the GOP, then all I can do is hope and pray that Obama goes eight years just to torment and punish you for one reason and one reason only - because you deserve it. You deserve to live in total denial and fear of what this president is going to do and where our country is going to go and end up.
Because the last administration did every thing in its power to destroy this country's infrastructure, shatter the American dream, bring us to the lowest microcosm of respectability from out global allies and nations, and take us to the very brink of fiscal collaspe - yet you want to pretend like this never happened.
It does not matter at this very moment what it cost to fix because it was destroyed and ruined and not once was the notion of cost ever considered - because it was never paid for. The war in Afghanistan - unpaid. The War in Iraq - unpaid. The Katrina cleanup - unpaid. The removal of judges - unpaid. The torture and housing of prisoners - unpaid.
Now you want to cry about all the damn money it is going to take to fix all these things. Why is that? Because all the damage was done and not a penny was paid to fund it or fix it. Instead, what we got was nothing more than a pile of IOU's to the tune of a few Trillion dollars.
If you can not see that the United States of America was broken, shattered to pieces for the past eight years and given to us and our children as a box of pieces and told to put it back together - if some of you can not see this despite all the wrongs of the past eight years, then happy ****ing 4th of July to you.
Celebrate your independence from the rest of society.
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Excellent points. I'm sure your post will get ignored.
I find it how much people complain about the USA and the government yet they seem to forget several points:
1) We get to vote. Most of the world's population get no say, or only the illusion of a say, in their officials. The people who make their laws, the people who make decisions that severely affect them.
2) We have the right to complain. Threads like this are wonderful for the freedom of speech and press (I think this forum would be more under freedom of press). IN many countries people would never see posts complaining about their government either though censorship or the poster was captured.
If I get pulled over I can tell the police officer to his face that I think he is doing a horrible job and he can't do anything about it (as long as I don't say it in a threatening way). I can do the same with any of our judges, representatives, council members, senators, even our presidential staff.
3) Most of us can afford basic living unlike a lot of the world. We can traditionally go to the store and buy a gallon of milk without breaking the bank or waiting in a line hours long (under normal circumstances). We see people here living with the very basics to support themselves while in some other countries that would be considered a life of luxury.
4) Everyone here (on this forum) has (or can afford) a telephone (landline or wireless), TV, a computer with internet access, and a new (or newer) car - if you don't have one it is by choice. I'm willing to bet a large percentage of the world's population not only is missing 2-4 of these, they will never obtain one in their lifetime.
People also tend to forget that whenever tragedy hits somewhere in the world the USA is one of the first countries to jump in and offer help. The 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, earthquakes all over the world, volcanic eruptions, famine, hurricanes (and other types of tropical cyclones) - unless the government tells the US to stay out - it's the first country to offer assistance.
I think this is a great country to live in, no matter who is in the big office. Is it perfect? Hell no, far from it - and it's been like that ever since I have been able to grasp a view of the real picture (we're spanning many presidents, R and D). Am I going to threaten to pack up and leave the country because who is in that office? Nope.
I've had little exposure at how "the other side" lives - and I know what I've seen doesn't even compare to most people in the world. I've been to Panama. I've seen starving children try to sell little sea shells and pretty rocks for $1 - which would feed their family for a day or two. I've seen them try to sell you the opportunity to take a picture with an exotic bird or a sloth for $1.
I've seen in Belize and Costa Rica some communities with nothing more than twine holding up the sheets of metal to create their "homes". I've seen the garbage piles in between these houses.
All this while I've seen an American couple complain that the stairs on the Mayan temple were to steep and there were no hand rails inside an old Spanish fort.
My father in law came to the USA decades ago with $500 in his pocket form a country that people are (still) thrown out of airplanes (without parachutes) for speaking out against their government. He was already a world known surgeon (having been one of the first in the world to perform open heart surgery). He struggled in the beginning but was able to build up a good life for himself and his family.
I'm glad I am an "accidental American" (American by birth - my father in law, even though an immigrant - is a true American in my eyes). I am glad I live here. This is a great country.
This is what the 4th of July should be about - celebrating the USA.
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I just can not get over how a few think such terrible things have happened only to them and this nation since the election.
It was as if everything was a virtual paradise and peace and prosperity for all and suddenly - it all vanished to horror and chaos and famine in the blink of an eye.
Of course, only bad things have happened to them since this time and everyone else is immune to it.
It must be mortifying to life their lives and to be suddenly thrust into gloom and despair.
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Great post Ed...
The only line I disagree with, is this one;
If you give a police officer a hard time, you run the risk of receiving more citations than you were originally stopped for.... Same for City officials, they have the power and resources of getting even. Not that's it's happened to me, but I know people it's happened to.If I get pulled over I can tell the police officer to his face that I think he is doing a horrible job and he can't do anything about it (as long as I don't say it in a threatening way). I can do the same with any of our judges, representatives, council members, senators, even our presidential staff.
If you voted for our current President in 2008 to prove you weren't a racist,
please vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot. Thank you
I beacon of hope for freedom, a savior to the poor and defenseless.But please remind us of the great things accomplished for our country under President Bush so we can celebrate together. I'll even start.
A lot of poor have worked hard and understood working hard and wise will bring you more business and prosperity, yes the rich get richer.The rich definitely got richer and the poor got, well - royally ****ed.
A lot of poor lay around waiting for the next hand out and remain poor, yes they got nothing but hand outs and wanted more.
You must be proud of Obama fighting this war (Afghanistan) Doc Com.Because the (last?) (the current) administration did (doing) every thing in its power to destroy this country's infrastructure, shatter the American dream, bring us to the lowest microcosm of respectability from out global allies and nations, and take us to the very brink of fiscal collaspe - yet you want to pretend like this never happened.
Bush fought to save the people.
Obama fights to save his social agenda.
So it must be true that alot of problems where / are in the middle east.
I blame G.W. Bush for being a beacon of hope for freedom, a savior to the poor and defenseless.
The way I see it... If he don't fight terrorists then he don't get re-elected. remember 911?
Same thing down in South America. IF Obama don't support the Dictators
In South America, they employ alot of dope dealers here in the states, some have weapons and no remorse. Do you want to lose your job?
I don't see who is currently President has to do with anyone getting out there and making a real difference in this world. Or is finding small ways to help people out not involve enough complaining?
Seems like we've got an agreement here!
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You are not the astute student you think you are regarding military operations, are you.
Obama's war in Afghanistan?
His war in South America?
His weakness?
Where have you been? what country do you live in?
Accusing Bush to fight a war to save many people is almost a blasphemy. He fought his pappy's agenda. Pure and simple, he fought daddy's war. When there was a clear enemy in Afghanistan called the Taliban who had and army, armour, and weaponry - when it was clear that Osama was there - YES, we (he = Bush) had an objective and had a target.
What the **** did we have in Iraq?
What was the objective?
What was the target?
Instead, Dubya took the bulk of the forces OFF the objective and OFF the target in Afghanistan and directed their attention and our might elsewhere.
He invaded a country that was no more a threat to us than an other middle eastern country that had a hatred to the western world.
Protected the free and innocent?
He ****ing slaughtered innocents and is responsible for the each and every one of the US soldiers deaths in Iraq.
Bush is the lowest of the low and took this country down with him.
There is not a military person ALIVE that will tell you that BUSH ****ed up and ****ed up royally. The enemy was not in Iraq. If the enemy was in Iraq then the enemy and those that gave refuge to terrorist is our enemy - Jordan, Egypt, Israel, Libya, Tunisia, Kenya, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon ALL are our enemy based on those charges.
Weapons of mass destruction? Who? What? Where?
Bush is responsible for the slaughter of Iraqi people and American soldiers for the purpose of Oil, Oil, Oil.
Bush is a war criminal and I hope he and you and bd and raider all suck off the same sow's tit and enjoy your 4th together in one huge Love Me fest.
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Wow, Did you really miss the message on Socialism? Or is this another one of your desperate attempts to spin it on Bush?.. Perhaps it's both.
Let me remind you that Bush left office with a 1.3 Trillion dollar debt over his 8 years in office, 7 of those years were prosperous for us all, and as you know, we were fighting two wars during that period....
It was Obama that BLEW nearly 2 TRILLION Dollars in his first 3 MONTHS in office, What impact do you think this will have on inflation when the economy finally recovers? Do you even have a clue?
This is what Americans are most concerned about, the long term impact of what this idiot is doing, Nobody here is blaming Obama for any of the above you mentioned, but yet you want to make it appear that way to deflect from Obama's irresponsible handling of the economy.
You cant possibly tell me your pleased with Obama's approach to pulling this Country out of recession, can you? Spending your way out of Recession DOESN'T work... And when he talks about creating new jobs, those are PUBLIC sector jobs he's talking about, NOT private sector... Get it?
And if Obama get's his way with Cap and Trade, The CARBON TAX and Nationalized Health Care, what do you think the impact will be on the Economy then?
Many of Obama's own Cabinet members are advising him that now is NOT the time for Cap & Trade and Nationalized health care, warning it will have a severe impact on a already weak economy. Does he listen? Of course not.
You don't have to be an Economist to figure it out, What this Socialist IDIOT is doing, is crippling our economy for years to come.
Your Bush card is about to expire DD, It's time you pull your head out of the sand and realize Obama is leading America down the WRONG path.
BTW, How many more months or years are we expected to wait until Obama's 787 BILLION DOLLAR Stimulus plan works?
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If you voted for our current President in 2008 to prove you weren't a racist,
please vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot. Thank you
I can agree with that but unless you act really threatening, insubordinate / hostile, or just really stupid, the worst will be more tickets (monetary loss) - maybe even a night in jail.
They won't call backup and just beat you for no reason (well, they're not supposed to), they won't take your car (as long as they don't have a reason to - transporting drugs etc..), they won't put you away for a long time, and you won't disappear.
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LOL! Good catch. I guess some people still couldn't get over with the loss.
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And who signed a $106 Billion dollar bill to keep the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan going?
Can you spell O B A M A?
Your post is just more proof of how displeased and bitter Obama supporters really are, They cant defend the indefensible so they attack the actions of his predecessor..
Deflecting the nations problems on Bush no longer works, it's lost it's effect because Americans now expect our new President to improve what Bush left behind, and he ISN'T doing it.. Instead he's making a bad situation worse.
Obama supporters just like you are very displeased with what Obama is doing and the poll numbers clearly confirm it... The only difference between you and the average Obama supporter is, they have the courage to criticize the Man they voted for, something a coward like you will never do.
If you voted for our current President in 2008 to prove you weren't a racist,
please vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot. Thank you
I find it how much people complain about the USA and the government yet they seem to forget several points:
1) We get to vote. Most of the world's population get no say, or only the illusion of a say, in their officials. The people who make their laws, the people who make decisions that severely affect them.
>> Who said this? The world is changing and most of the countries leadership is now elected by the votes
2) We have the right to complain. Threads like this are wonderful for the freedom of speech and press (I think this forum would be more under freedom of press). IN many countries people would never see posts complaining about their government either though censorship or the poster was captured.
>> THere are very selected and few Muslim and Mongoian countries . There are more then 230 countries and the countries which stops or restricts freedom of expression and right to speak are mostly those countries which are in direct conflict with US
If I get pulled over I can tell the police officer to his face that I think he is doing a horrible job and he can't do anything about it (as long as I don't say it in a threatening way). I can do the same with any of our judges, representatives, council members, senators, even our presidential staff.
>> I Bet, you are not alone at that time
3) Most of us can afford basic living unlike a lot of the world. We can traditionally go to the store and buy a gallon of milk without breaking the bank or waiting in a line hours long (under normal circumstances). We see people here living with the very basics to support themselves while in some other countries that would be considered a life of luxury.
>> Economics - That is all adding to the National Debt. But undoubtly, US leads but has become stagnant for sometime and other countries are catching up
4) Everyone here (on this forum) has (or can afford) a telephone (landline or wireless), TV, a computer with internet access, and a new (or newer) car - if you don't have one it is by choice. I'm willing to bet a large percentage of the world's population not only is missing 2-4 of these, they will never obtain one in their lifetime.
>> For undeveloped and developing country, I will agree .
People also tend to forget that whenever tragedy hits somewhere in the world the USA is one of the first countries to jump in and offer help. The 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, earthquakes all over the world, volcanic eruptions, famine, hurricanes (and other types of tropical cyclones) - unless the government tells the US to stay out - it's the first country to offer assistance.
>> Can you see the reason why? Military, Natural Resources and Economic interest are just few reasons!
I think this is a great country to live in, no matter who is in the big office. Is it perfect? Hell no, far from it - and it's been like that ever since I have been able to grasp a view of the real picture (we're spanning many presidents, R and D). Am I going to threaten to pack up and leave the country because who is in that office? Nope.
>> lol , yes!
I've had little exposure at how "the other side" lives - and I know what I've seen doesn't even compare to most people in the world. I've been to Panama. I've seen starving children try to sell little sea shells and pretty rocks for $1 - which would feed their family for a day or two. I've seen them try to sell you the opportunity to take a picture with an exotic bird or a sloth for $1.
>> believe what you see and hear at one time , let the rest be an opinion or suggestion and do not make facts out of it.
OTHER SIDE remarks just reflects the thoughts how the biggest country's people mindset . Not changed yet!
I've seen in Belize and Costa Rica some communities with nothing more than twine holding up the sheets of metal to create their "homes". I've seen the garbage piles in between these houses.
>> I Can see not only in US, but UK, many eurpean countries . Garbage yes is defnintely a problem specially in Few Asian countries who major chunk of people are below poverty line
All this while I've seen an American couple complain that the stairs on the Mayan temple were to steep and there were no hand rails inside an old Spanish fort.
>> There is a history and the belief to say! As all the religions have some ideologies, I do not see this as a reason to complain
My father in law came to the USA decades ago with $500 in his pocket form a country that people are (still) thrown out of airplanes (without parachutes) for speaking out against their government. He was already a world known surgeon (having been one of the first in the world to perform open heart surgery). He struggled in the beginning but was able to build up a good life for himself and his family.
>> FBI ?
I'm glad I am an "accidental American" (American by birth - my father in law, even though an immigrant - is a true American in my eyes). I am glad I live here. This is a great country.
This is what the 4th of July should be about - celebrating the USA.
Said that, USA is among the BEST, CULTURAL MIX , ECONIMIC POWER Contry and most of the poeple have met had many opinions and suggestion but are lovely people!
Also, US is supportive ! undoubtly
July 4th is to celebrate !! Love US!
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Obama is the lowest of the low and took this country down with him.
There is not a supporter ALIVE that will tell you that Obama ****ed up and ****ed up royally. The enemy was USA.
Obama is responsible for the slaughter of Jobs, people and America, for the purpose of spreading the wealth.
Obama is a con man and I hope he and you and ** and **** all suck off the same sow's tit and enjoy your 4th together in one huge Love Me fest.
Just leave the USA free!
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So, let's see...a conservative admin has total control of our Government by dominating the White House, Congress & Senate for six years. It utilizes it's power during this period of six years to completely screw our economy and you think yourself all smart and savvy to blame the next admin. An admin that has been in office for six months trying to clean up the mess they inherited...dude you not only drank the kool-aid, you went back for seconds.
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