The 4th Of July :(

[Raider]

Originally Posted by Poker

So, let's see...a conservative admin has total control of our Government by dominating the White House, Congress & Senate for six years. It utilizes it's power during this period of six years to completely screw our economy

Screw our economy? LMAO .. You seem to forget we had 7 years of PROSPERITY under Bush, The only people who screwed this Economy were the Dumb A*s Democrats who won control 2 years prior to Bush's end of term, That's when the problems started, Add to that the housing crisis, I suppose your going to blame Bush for that one to right? Give it your best shot, you'll lose.

The only question I have for you Liberals is this one; Why is it that we rarely see any members here defending Obama policy? It's almost non-existent.

Instead, all we see are the same people preaching the same hate for that unjust War....You could talk about Air Force Once flying over the Statue of Liberty and you guys will find a way to divert it to Bush and Iraq..

You guys are becoming laughable.

[Devil Dog]

Originally Posted by Poker

So, let's see...a conservative admin has total control of our Government by dominating the White House, Congress & Senate for six years. It utilizes it's power during this period of six years to completely screw our economy and you think yourself all smart and savvy to blame the next admin. An admin that has been in office for six months trying to clean up the mess they inherited...dude you not only drank the kool-aid, you went back for seconds.

Don't even waste your time.

Originally Posted by Raider

Wow, Did you really miss the message on Socialism? Or is this another one of your desperate attempts to spin it on Bush?.. Perhaps it's both.

Let me remind you that Bush left office with a 1.3 Trillion dollar debt over his 8 years in office, 7 of those years were prosperous for us all, and as you know, we were fighting two wars during that period....

It was Obama that BLEW nearly 2 TRILLION Dollars in his first 3 MONTHS in office, What impact do you think this will have on inflation when the economy finally recovers? Do you even have a clue?

This is what Americans are most concerned about, the long term impact of what this idiot is doing, Nobody here is blaming Obama for any of the above you mentioned, but yet you want to make it appear that way to deflect from Obama's irresponsible handling of the economy.

You cant possibly tell me your pleased with Obama's approach to pulling this Country out of recession, can you? Spending your way out of Recession DOESN'T work... And when he talks about creating new jobs, those are PUBLIC sector jobs he's talking about, NOT private sector... Get it?

And if Obama get's his way with Cap and Trade, The CARBON TAX and Nationalized Health Care, what do you think the impact will be on the Economy then?

Many of Obama's own Cabinet members are advising him that now is NOT the time for Cap & Trade and Nationalized health care, warning it will have a severe impact on a already weak economy. Does he listen? Of course not.

You don't have to be an Economist to figure it out, What this Socialist IDIOT is doing, is crippling our economy for years to come.

Your Bush card is about to expire DD, It's time you pull your head out of the sand and realize Obama is leading America down the WRONG path.

BTW, How many more months or years are we expected to wait until Obama's 787 BILLION DOLLAR Stimulus plan works?

LAMO

So basically all you're worried about is MONEY?
Never mind the thousands of American lives lost fighting a lie and the multitudes permanently maimed.

My head may be in the sand, but yours is up your ass, no lie.

[Area52]

Originally Posted by meganerd

I don't see who is currently President has to do with anyone getting out there and making a real difference in this world. Or is finding small ways to help people out not involve enough complaining?

If anyone is "complaining" here it doesn't matter. It's protected by the United States Constitution. I think it's a great service to the public to give one's opinion, even if there are those that are of the opinion that it is not right to comment negatively about people they support. It may even at times disclose lies, hypocrisy, disloyalty, treason and/or many other dishonorable traits.

[bd77]

Originally Posted by Devil Dog

Don't even waste your time.

So basically all you're worried about is MONEY?
Never mind the thousands of American lives lost fighting a lie and the multitudes permanently maimed.

My head may be in the sand, but yours is up your ass, no lie.

Obama has continued this war that you dislike so much. So much for hope and change. All he is doing now is moving troops from Iraq to Afghanistan to fight a war we cannot win. Iraq is winnable because the political situation has stabilized-Afghanistan's never will. Plus it doesn't help that you have Pakistan right next to it...its only one of the most unstable nuclear powers in the world!!!

Lets move on to money. Obama plans to spend us into oblivion just so he can fix issues that don't exist-man made global warming. He also seems to think a one payer option for health care is a good idea even thought the government can't even run Medicare and Medicaid efficiently.

Hope and change was just a slogan meant to manipulate the masses. He fooled many including you.

[nameslave]

Originally Posted by bd77

Hope and change was just a slogan meant to manipulate the masses. He fooled many including you.

Yes, they were sales pitches, and VERY SUCCESSFUL ones.

But more importantly, they are MORE THAN just sales pitches. HOPE is ALREADY installed in the majority of Americans. It's a subjective thing, a present state of mind about the future, whether the future will in reality be bright OR NOT. CHANGE is also here ALREADY. If not, what are the rightwingers complaining about? LOL!

[Gregcyber]

Originally Posted by nameslave

Yes, they were sales pitches, and VERY SUCCESSFUL ones.

But more importantly, they are MORE THAN just sales pitches. HOPE is ALREADY installed in the majority of Americans. It's a subjective thing, a present state of mind about the future, whether the future will in reality be bright OR NOT. CHANGE is also here ALREADY. If not, what are the rightwingers complaining about? LOL!

Obama won playing the blame game, hands down, also Obama won because he mislead most Americans.

HOPE, Millions play the lottery on HOPE but never win

[Devil Dog]

Originally Posted by bd77

Obama has continued this war that you dislike so much. So much for hope and change. All he is doing now is moving troops from Iraq to Afghanistan to fight a war we cannot win. Iraq is winnable because the political situation has stabilized-Afghanistan's never will. Plus it doesn't help that you have Pakistan right next to it...its only one of the most unstable nuclear powers in the world!!!

Lets move on to money. Obama plans to spend us into oblivion just so he can fix issues that don't exist-man made global warming. He also seems to think a one payer option for health care is a good idea even thought the government can't even run Medicare and Medicaid efficiently.

Hope and change was just a slogan meant to manipulate the masses. He fooled many including you.

Continued the Iraq war? Not sure if you noticed, but we're pulling out of there as I type.

Also, where have I stated I disagreed with the Afghan war? Nowhere! We should have been in Afghanistan from the get go.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by Devil Dog

Also, where have I stated I disagreed with the Afghan war? Nowhere! We should have been in Afghanistan from the get go.

Beyond a doubt, there was "clear and present danger", a target, and an objective in Afghanistan.

No military target, no military objective, no clear and present danger in Iraq.

None.

All civilian targets (Saddam, oil), all civilian objectives (secure and control the oil fields), and no clear and present danger.

Oil is perhaps the number one strategic objective in modern times. Invading Iraq did more damage than good in regards to relations with the OPEC nations, added speculation to Cost Per Barrel driving prices sky high, and did nothing to secure a foot hold in the middle east.

[DomainsInc]

A lot of people felt similar when Bush was in power for 8 years. Different people, different opinions. Can you really say yours is the right one? Not for everyone. Just enjoy the great country you have and forget about politics for a day. There is a lot more to a great country than who is president.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by DomainsInc

A lot of people felt similar when Bush was in power for 8 years. Different people, different opinions. Can you really say yours is the right one? Not for everyone. Just enjoy the great country you have and forget about politics for a day. There is a lot more to a great country than who is president.

Independence Day.

A long and bloody war was fought to have such a holiday.

Guess we all could be well off under the King's (Queen's) rule.

Damn British...Should have fought harder.

[nameslave]

Originally Posted by Gregcyber

HOPE, Millions play the lottery on HOPE but never win

You are right on it. But like I said, this is EXACTLY what hope is all about. It doesn't really matter whether they eventually win or not, it's the thought that they MAY win which makes the difference. And the truth is, people NEED hope.

[bd77]

Originally Posted by Devil Dog

Continued the Iraq war? Not sure if you noticed, but we're pulling out of there as I type.

Also, where have I stated I disagreed with the Afghan war? Nowhere! We should have been in Afghanistan from the get go.

Pulling out of the cities of Iraq is not the same as leaving the country entirely. Our troops are but a phone call away from bailing out the Iraqi forces when/not if they get into trouble.

So you support a continued war in Afghanistan??? Did we not learn from the Russian experience that you can't be there for any extended period of time? You get in and get out. Putting more troops in harms way there will not solve the problem Darren. The political situation is the problem and if not rectified no amount of troop buildup will change the situation.

[DomainsInc]

Originally Posted by bd77

Pulling out of the cities of Iraq is not the same as leaving the country entirely. Our troops are but a phone call away from bailing out the Iraqi forces when/not if they get into trouble.

So you support a continued war in Afghanistan??? Did we not learn from the Russian experience that you can't be there for any extended period of time? You get in and get out. Putting more troops in harms way there will not solve the problem Darren. The political situation is the problem and if not rectified no amount of troop buildup will change the situation.

Main problem in the middle east is the cultural divide that will never change...no point in being there.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by Devil Dog

So basically all you're worried about is MONEY?

No, I'm worried about future generations being able to live the American Dream, Which you seem to care nothing about.

And if you want talk about War, let's talk about Obama's War on Prosperity OK?




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I think it's YOU who needs pull your head out of your Ass, If you need a extra hand, just fart twice and Doc Com will come to your rescue.

Originally Posted by nameslave

And the truth is, people NEED hope.

Yes, And Obama knew this all too well, Using FALSE Hope to get himself elected.