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    59% Say Americans Angrier Now Than Under Bush

    As the President moves forward with his Liberal ideology that is destroying this great Country, anger and hostility toward his policies will only get worse.


    59% Say Americans Angrier Now Than Under Bush

    Tuesday, September 22, 2009


    Fifty-nine percent (59%) of U.S. voters believe that the current level of political anger in the country is higher than it was when George W. Bush was president.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only 22% think the level of political anger is lower now, while 16% rate it as about the same.

    Despite frequent Republican complaints about the vitriol leveled at President Bush, 69% of GOP voters say the level of anger is higher now, a view shared by 53% of Democrats and 56% of voters not affiliated with either party.

    But just 12% of voters nationwide say that the opposition to President Obama’s health care plan and other initiatives is racist, as some prominent Democrats, including former President Jimmy Carter, have charged.

    Sixty-six percent (66%) of all voters say they’re at least somewhat angry about the current policies of the federal government, including 36% who are Very Angry.

    Among those voters who are Very Angry, 74% say the level of anger is higher now, while 13% say it’s lower and 12% say it’s about the same.

    Even the majority of those who are now very or not at all angry about the government’s actions right now say the level of political anger is higher under Obama.

    Forty-three percent (43%) of voters are at least somewhat concerned that the political anger will turn violent, with 22% who are Very Concerned. But 54% are not that worried about potential political violence.

    Anger at Bush’s policies, particularly the war in Iraq, played a major role in Obama’s election last November over Republican candidate John McCain. In the final full month of his presidency, just 13% of Americans said they Strongly Approved of the way that Bush performed his job, giving him an overall job approval rating of –30 in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

    By comparison, although Obama has been tracking in negative territory for weeks, 31% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way he is performing as president. His job approval rating stands at –8 in the daily Presidential Tracking Poll.

    Just before Bush left office in January, 57% of Americans said he was one of the five worst presidents in U.S. history.

    Most voters (56%) continue to blame the nation’s current economic problems on the recession that started under Bush, but 37% blame the policies implemented by Obama.

    Adding to the level of anger is the new finding that 75% of adults now say Americans are becoming ruder and less civilized.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...han_under_bush


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    Bush invaded Iraq, Wall Street's buying Persian office rugs with tax dollars, and Obama has spent his entire first year in office giving television interviews. If all of that isn't bad enough, Sarah Palin is eventually going to come limping back into the limelight.

    Would I be wrong in saying that we have never been so screwed as a nation, as we are today?
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    so how bout them yankees! they clinched first place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Bush invaded Iraq, Wall Street's buying Persian office rugs with tax dollars, and Obama has spent his entire first year in office giving television interviews. If all of that isn't bad enough, Sarah Palin is eventually going to come limping back into the limelight.

    Would I be wrong in saying that we have never been so screwed as a nation, as we are today?
    No, I'd say your spot on


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    Obama is getting so quickly far off track. Unexpectedly askew & a monumental detour with health care. It is not the time.

    95% of all effort should be completely devoted to education & retraining, and job creation through development of alternative energy in America. And actively fostering partnerships & growth among American corporations so that they can begin competing globally with the cheap manufacturing base overseas that is reshaping the balance of economic power.

    I am very concerned about the lack of discussion and laser focus by the administration on job creation and rebuilding the economy. Health care is receiving an unjustified amount of attention to the point that most Americans are losing confidence in the administration's ability to prioritize. The house is on fire, and their worried about saving an 8 x 8 aluminum shed at the back of the property. If Americans don't soon have employment to return to, this recession will balloon into a super serious American crisis.

    Unemployment income was just extended ... again. So working taxpayers and American business get to "bailout" the rest for an additional 13 weeks. Where's the line?
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    Things are looking better not worst, everyone knew it was not going to be fixed over night. Things have to change one way or the other, the dems keep trying to push to far left, and the repubs keep trying to push to far right.

    Everyone keeps seeing things all black or all white, this needs to stop there lots of grey to work with. Bush got us into this mess and obama, is now left holding the bag of shi$ that is on fire. We got some hard work ahead of us, or take the republicans advice and do nothing, till we got nothing left to do anything with anymore.

    We need to make some hard choices now, the voters need to smack down the far right and left. Bloody them as much as is needed, to get them to work for the voters instead their own self needs. This is not all white or black, and they need to see that and start doing what right for most the people.

    Lets smack down both the far right and left, they hate each other so much. They are willing to let all of us suffer greatly for it, and lets lift up and the right and left that is in the middle working. Trying to make the hard choices, to help the voters that put them into office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlton View Post
    I am very concerned about the lack of discussion and laser focus by the administration on job creation and rebuilding the economy. Health care is receiving an unjustified amount of attention to the point that most Americans are losing confidence in the administration's ability to prioritize. The house is on fire, and their worried about saving an 8 x 8 aluminum shed at the back of the property. If Americans don't soon have employment to return to, this recession will balloon into a super serious American crisis.
    Good post... Your so right on this, and your not alone for feeling this way. I made the similar point in a number of threads, The President's priorities are so backwards, it's hard for any logical thinking American not to see it. Why in the world are we even discussing Health care right now when we have record high unemployment? Just over the past 3 months, 318,000 people on average per month, lost their jobs.

    This is not a Democrat vs Republican issue like some try to make it out to be, All Americans, Democrats, Republicans and Independents are extremely disappointed at this President for not focusing on the economic growth of this country, Not focusing on putting Americans BACK TO WORK.

    And then you have the irresponsible spending of the last 9 months, which has put this country further in debt to the tune of nearly 2 TRILLION dollars.. And it doesn't stop there, when the American tax payer hears that Democrats ordered 3 Gulfstream jets for $200 million to be used by the Pentagon to fly VIP's in Congress wherever they want to go, they become even more outraged.

    Or when the White house ordered the fly-over of Air Force One over the Statue of Liberty, What could of been done with Photoshop for less than $100, cost the tax payer $328,000 AND total panic over New York City.

    But what angers Americans most is Obama's lack of accountability;

    Barack Obama: 100 Days of No Accountability

    Hypocrite.


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    I must agree if people have jobs they can get their own heath insurance, but medicare going BK in a few years but they need to work on cutting prices to fix it. Not adding more to the pockets of the ones making all the problems to start with, they also need to get us off import oil yesterday.

    People are worried because all the money has been sucked from our money system, but it's not coming back in real jobs for real people. They keep subing out workers work to other cheaper country's, they have not even tried to plug the wholes at all. China is spending and that keeping things going, but we need to make some hard choices.

    It's one thing to claim to build a new green market, and it's another to get the market to drive it's self. The people and gov't can't keep driving such a market, it must be help to drive it's self or it will not work at all. At this point we all agree we need to get off import oil, so we should be doing that instead of thinking up new taxes to do it.
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    Good points tas and Raider. Check this out ...

    http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker...&asset=&ccode=

    From above article -> "If the Fed really thought the economy was sound, why does he have it on life support? If he pulls the plug, our sick economy is going to die."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Bush invaded Iraq, Wall Street's buying Persian office rugs with tax dollars, and Obama has spent his entire first year in office giving television interviews. If all of that isn't bad enough, Sarah Palin is eventually going to come limping back into the limelight.

    Would I be wrong in saying that we have never been so screwed as a nation, as we are today?
    You forgot to add that Obama is spending us into oblivion faster than Bush ever could. The dollar will eventually collapse and then will have much more serious problems then we have today.

    I know you got a bug up your ass about palin but she seems alright to me. I think she gets a bad rap from the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd77 View Post
    I know you got a bug up your ass about palin but she seems alright to me. I think she gets a bad rap from the media.
    I admire many aspects of Sarah Palin, her strong family values, her anti-abortion position, her stance on gun ownership rights, etc... I just don't feel she has what it takes to salvage what is left of our country, not by a long shot.

    McCain, Obama, Palin, what is the difference at this point, when the system itself is broken? Why haven't we secured our southern border, and deported every single illegal alien? Why are we not allowing businesses to fail, especially extremely corrupt businesses? Why are we nation building in Iraq and Trashcanistan? A permanent aircraft carrier in the Middle East is the perfect solution for Islam and it's bloody fanatics should they want to build more terrorist training centers again, but a few bombing runs won't generate Halliburton profits.

    Will our grandchildren inherit a bankrupt nation that's being slowly pushed into the Arctic Circle by Aztlán? How many more wars are we going to be forced to fight for Wall Street profits? The two party system has gone completely bust, they won't solve anything anymore, I think you know that. As a nation we can't even celebrate Christmas without pissing off half the country, and setting off a string of lawsuits... The cracks are getting big, and it's just going to get worse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    I admire many aspects of Sarah Palin, her strong family values, her anti-abortion position, her stance on gun ownership rights, etc... I just don't feel she has what it takes to salvage what is left of our country, not by a long shot.

    McCain, Obama, Palin, what is the difference at this point, when the system itself is broken? Why haven't we secured our southern border, and deported every single illegal alien? Why are we not allowing businesses to fail, especially extremely corrupt businesses? Why are we nation building in Iraq and Trashcanistan? A permanent aircraft carrier in the Middle East is the perfect solution for Islam and it's bloody fanatics should they want to build more terrorist training centers again, but a few bombing runs won't generate Halliburton profits.

    Will our grandchildren inherit a bankrupt nation that's being slowly pushed into the Arctic Circle by Aztlán? How many more wars are we going to be forced to fight for Wall Street profits? The two party system has gone completely bust, they won't solve anything anymore, I think you know that. As a nation we can't even celebrate Christmas without pissing off half the country, and setting off a string of lawsuits... The cracks are getting big, and it's just going to get worse...
    You think we need a "perfect solution" for Islam... Does this mean you are proposing a "final solution"?

    We are not going to get anywhere with people spewing this type of garbage hate speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevirtual View Post
    You think we need a "perfect solution" for Islam... Does this mean you are proposing a "final solution"?

    We are not going to get anywhere with people spewing this type of garbage hate speech.
    I was talking about the jihadists, and my post was written in plain English. Now you've got me wondering why you didn't catch that? Am I allowed to take a guess at who cried wolf, and for what reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    I was talking about the jihadists, and my post was written in plain English. Now you've got me wondering why you didn't catch that? Am I allowed to take a guess at who cried wolf, and for what reason?
    You said you have the perfect solution for Islam.

    You obviously think Islam is the problem as well as all Muslims. Otherwise you would have made it obvious you meant the terrorists. You got a huge problem if you use the word Islam when referring to terrorists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    But what angers Americans most is Obama's lack of accountability;
    No, that's what angers Glenn Beck fans the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thevirtual View Post
    You said you have the perfect solution for Islam.

    You obviously think Islam is the problem as well as all Muslims. Otherwise you would have made it obvious you meant the terrorists. You got a huge problem if you use the word Islam when referring to terrorists.



    No, that's what angers Glenn Beck fans the most.
    Are you feeling neglected in life, or marginalized by society? A deliberate misinterpretation of written text to facilitate a hate speech accusation, kind of a weak way to draw attention to yourself as an adult, wouldn't you say? We can start another thread, and talk about what's going on in your life, if you want to? Do you think that would make you feel better, or are you strictly looking for some deflected attention? I'm genuinely interested, so please let me know...
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    We are to blame for all this stuff, we vote our leaders in and don't look at anything but what they say, and what party they are in instead of looking at them closely. Bush, obama, and the others could not do anything, with out the support of other leaders that a fact we must all look at.

    We like to blame others always, but we are to blame because everyone of our leaders, have a history that if looked at most people would not have voted for them. Instead of looking at what leadership values they have, party values seems to over power all common sense these days.

    So we need to start looking at the truth, we failed to vote the leaders in we need right now. That is 1/2 the battle so next time around, lets forgot what they say and what the news says or talk shows. And lets do a little research on their history, because we are to blame for what our leaders do, if we are the ones voting them into office again and again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tas38 View Post
    We are to blame for all this stuff, we vote our leaders in and don't look at anything but what they say, and what party they are in instead of looking at them closely. Bush, obama, and the others could not do anything, with out the support of other leaders that a fact we must all look at.

    We like to blame others always, but we are to blame because everyone of our leaders, have a history that if looked at most people would not have voted for them. Instead of looking at what leadership values they have, party values seems to over power all common sense these days.

    So we need to start looking at the truth, we failed to vote the leaders in we need right now. That is 1/2 the battle so next time around, lets forgot what they say and what the news says or talk shows. And lets do a little research on their history, because we are to blame for what our leaders do, if we are the ones voting them into office again and again.
    The voters have chosen the best candidate based on the choices they had. The problem is the smearing that has been going on during the election which tries to deceive the masses into voting a certain way, the smearing which is going on now trying to stop progress, and the obstacles which are preventing anything from getting done in the government. Then there are the people who blame everything on the President and expect him to be able to magically fix everything about the country. Then there are ignorant and bigoted people and the ones who are opposed to progress and the religious fanatics etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Are you feeling neglected in life, or marginalized by society? A deliberate misinterpretation of written text to facilitate a hate speech accusation, kind of a weak way to draw attention to yourself as an adult, wouldn't you say? We can start another thread, and talk about what's going on in your life, if you want to? Do you think that would make you feel better, or are you strictly looking for some deflected attention? I'm genuinely interested, so please let me know...
    You obviously have an agenda against Islam and Muslims and you think it is ok to punish the millions of people in Arab countries because of some terrorists. Therefore you lose credibility in any important discussion.
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    I can agree, on most of what you said thevirtual.....

    But it sounds like your talking about who we voted to the white house, and I'm talking about who we voted into the House and Senate. Where there is more choices on a much more local level, they are the ones we need to research before voting for them.

    They talk about and vote on bills they have not even read, they work very little and think things out even less. They are the ones talking one thing doing another, they are the ones not willing to work with one another, to get things back on track for the good of our country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tas38 View Post
    I can agree, on most of what you said thevirtual.....

    But it sounds like your talking about who we voted to the white house, and I'm talking about who we voted into the House and Senate. Where there is more choices on a much more local level, they are the ones we need to research before voting for them.

    They talk about and vote on bills they have not even read, they work very little and think things out even less. They are the ones talking one thing doing another, they are the ones not willing to work with one another, to get things back on track for the good of our country.
    The democrat victory are partly a response to the lack of progress and the failures of the republicans. I think the people have voted the candidates in that were expected to be more willing to serve the people. Many of these politicians have been hindering any progress and serving their corporate paymasters. I don't see how voting can fix this problem without a change in this system which allows for this type of corruption.

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