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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    What a second.

    Do you know what you are quoting?

    You are quoting what I have been saying all along and that which you and others have disputed...that the primary difference of this strain from other strains of influenza is its propensity and affinity for the lungs and rapidly setting up in the lungs.

    Was it not you and a few others who tried desperately to convince me that all flu is in the lungs???

    What you have just quoted is a primary reason why this strain is much more deadly than any other current strain.

    If you are not sure, please do look up the words propensity and affinity for.

    And for your information, we all have staph...on and in our bodies. All of us. Staph exists in and on nearly anything. That is why you wash food, wash yourself, and bath. When mama told you to wash the germs off your hands she was telling you to wash the staph.

    My god, I hope and pray people like you are not being consulted to provide counseling services to those grieving.

    It should be a mandatory imprisonment to mention f'king nutjob Mercola and the CDC in the same paragraph
    Umm sorry doc no that wasn't me. My argument has always been that this was a manufactured virus released on the population.

    So let me get this straight. He's a nutjob but he's agreeing with you on that point. So does that make you a nutjob?

    There's going to be people locked up that's for sure. I prefer public hangings of all with knowledge/involvemnt.

    Saturday, October 31, 2009
    Has Baxter International released a biological weapon?
    Evidence appears to suggest that Baxter International is responsible for a new deadly outbreak of viral pneumonia in Ukraine.

    In February of 2009 Bloomberg reported that Baxter "accidentally" send vaccine material containing both live Avian bird flu and seasonal influenza to multiple laboratories worldwide. A laboratory decided to test the vaccine on it's ferrets, but the ferrets all unexpectedly died. It must be noted that Baxter has made a "mistake" like this before. Blood products produced by Baxter once containd HIV. Thousands of haemophiliacs died due to this, and many went on to infect their spouses.

    Later in the year, a bizarre story emerged on the internet. The Huffington Post reported on a a man named Joseph Moshe who was arrested after a hours long standoff with the police because he had supposedly made threats against the White House. The man was able to withstand multiple rounds of tear gas.

    However, the internet community was very skeptical of the true reasons behidn this man's arrest. Comments on the Huffington Post website immediately began pouring in about an unreported side to this story, namely that Joseph Moshe was a Mossad Agent specialized in biological warfare who called into a radio show to warn people about a biological weapn that was being made by Baxter international that would be spread through vaccine and would cause a plague upon it's release.

    Although anyone can make a doomsday claim and we should never believe anyone (and it must be said that the Truth movement handled this well, the message was spread without being proclaimed as gospel) the amazing part about Moshe's claim was the location where Moshe said the biological weapon was being produced.

    Moshe claimed that Baxter's laboratory in the Ukraine out of all places was creating this biological weapon. All of this came out in the beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding. For Moshe to correctly name the country where a new epidemic would be unleashed, requires either inside information, or an incredible coincidence as anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics can confirm for himself.

    http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/20...-released.html
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    Umm, you won't find me listed as a quack for not only making false claims about products but products he endorses or manufactures.

    So, without further ado, carry on with your conspiracy theory(ies).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    Umm, you won't find me listed as a quack for not only making false claims about products but products he endorses or manufactures.

    So, without further ado, carry on with your conspiracy theory(ies).
    You are endorsing drugs made by companies such as Baxter are you not, say maybe the swine flu shot? How can you endorse it when they won't even take legal or financial responsibility for what it may do themselves?

    40,000 contract serious virus in Ukraine, kills 30
    By Andrew Moran.
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/281347

    As the world enters the H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic season, another possible virus emerges as 30 people in the Eastern European country of Ukraine have died from this latest flu.

    Each country is dealing with their own cases of the H1N1 Swine Flu and many have even taken the vaccination but is H1N1 the only flu out there? A viral infection in Ukraine has taken the lives of 30 people and at first it seemed like an ordinary flu but after a week the symptoms became worse.

    Radio Netherlands Worldwide reports 40,000 Ukrainians have contracted the disease and at least 100 are in the hospital. Tests are currently being conducted and all is known is that it is not the H1N1 Swine Flu.

    A large number of schools and childcare facilities are being shut down, especially in the city of Lvov. Also, government agencies are handing out surgical masks and gloves to people in the western part of Ukraine.

    However, Russia Today is reporting that it is A/H1N1 or Californian Flu and the total number of deaths is closer to 40.

    Prime Minister Timoshenko stated, “Express-tests cannot provide a hundred percent verification of the virus, they give only 50% accuracy. That’s why blood probes of those who died were sent to special laboratories for further testing. And only this morning it was confirmed that at least 11 deaths were caused by the A/H1N1 virus.”

    The Ukrainian government is calling for international aid to help fight their epidemic and President Yushchenko believes the country needs more than $6 million to battle the epidemic(s).

    Wolne Media have also reported that the symptoms have been diagnosed as pneumonia. Furthermore, four patients in the hospital in Lviv Oblast have been confirmed to have “very severe pneumonia” after contracting the influenza.


    Unknown Influenza Kills Seven In Ukraine
    Seven people in the western Ukrainian city of Ternopil have died from an unknown flu virus, RFE/RL's Ukrainian Service reports.
    Thursday, October 29, 2009By RFE/RL

    http://www.speroforum.com/site/artic...ven+In+Ukraine

    TERNOPIL, Ukraine -- Seven people in the western Ukrainian city of Ternopil have died from an unknown flu virus, RFE/RL's Ukrainian Service reports.

    Bohdan Oniskiv, the chief of the health department in Ternopil Oblast, told journalists on October 27 that none of the flu victims had other health problems.

    About 6,000 people were referred to medical centers and clinics with flu symptoms last week.

    Copyright (c) 2008. RFE/RL, Inc. Reprinted with the permission of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, 1201 Connecticut Ave., N.W. Washington DC 20036.


    US Swine Outbreak is an "Influenza"? Not so fast, says Lawrence Broxmeyer MD
    http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/pres...r-md-99097.php

    Medical researcher/physician Lawrence Broxmeyer MD, lead investigator in a Journal of Infectious Diseases study, has a message for the officials and scientists of WHO and the CDC: There is more to flu-like illness than either "Influenza" or "H1N1".

    Pneumonia outbreak kills 30 in Ukraine

    Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:15:48 +0100 (MET)LVIV, Ukraine, Oct 29, 2009 (AFP) - More than 30 people have died in an unexplained pneumonia outbreak in Ukraine this month, the country's health ministry said on Thursday. People have been buying antiviral drugs and protective masks in large numbers since the start of the outbreak, the cause of which remains unclear, the ministry said in a statement.

    http://www.tmb.ie/exodus/news.asp?id=49676


    Unidentified flu outbreak in Western Ukraine
    http://zik.com.ua/en/news/2009/10/29/202374

    Prime Minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko claims that Ukraine has no “pneumonic plague”, and it is just swine flu. Tymoshenko asks politicians to not incite panic among the population. “.., it is influenza, flu mutation named California. There is no pneumonic plague, no other exotic things” said Tymoshenko.
    http://www.ukrinform.ua/ukr/order/?id=846487


    Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is formulated to contain 15 mcg hemagglutinin (HA) per 0.5-mL dose of the following virus strain: A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)v-like virus.

    Page 13 http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Biologi.../UCM182242.pdf
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    Quebec woman dies after contracting H1N1 virus

    Updated: Wed Nov. 04 2009 5:17:04 PM


    A 42-year-old Quebec woman has died from complications resulting from the H1N1 virus.

    It is the third death in the province since September.

    The woman, who worked at the Monteregie Health and Social Services Centre, died Tuesday night.

    Public health officials said the woman was not a nurse or front line worker who was in contact with patients.

    She had also received the H1N1 vaccination on Oct. 29, two days before coming down with symptoms of the flu.


    http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...1104/20091103/

    Dutch pull Pfizer vaccine batch after infants die
    110,000 doses of anti-infection drug Prevenar quarantined after deaths

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33671008...ious_diseases/

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    Wednesday, 11 November 2009

    On TVN24 in Poland Baxter has admitted they contaminated 72 KG of vaccine material with the live bird flu virus.

    As a result of handling this contaminated material in February, 36 people working for the labs Avir and BioTest had to be treated preventatively for the bird flu in hospitals in Austria and the Czech Republic, underlining that their health was threatened by the material in the opinion of medical experts.

    Both Avir and BioTest have stated that the final purpose of the contaminated Baxter material was for use in regular seasonal flu vaccines, strongly suggesting the notion it would have been injected into people if it had not been detected by staff at BioTest.

    The Times of India reported on March 6th that a global bird flu pandemic had nearly been triggerd by the Baxter material.

    Because Baxter is obliged under EU rules to handle the bird flu virus using biosafety level 3 or 4 precautions in its ultra modern biomedical facilities in Austria, an accidental contamination can be virtually ruled out. No evidence has been presented by Baxter to prove otherwise.

    Biosafety level 3 regulations apply to any virus that can cause a serious disease in human beings.

    The bird flu, a lab engineered virus, has a mortality rate of over 60%.

    The gigantic amount of 72 kilos of vaccine material was contaminated in Orth an der Donau.

    It is not clear why Baxter had the bird flu virus in its vaccine production facilities in Orth an der Donau in the first place.

    WHO supplied the bird flu virus to Baxter. But for what purpose?

    It is not clear how the live bird flu virus could have been sent out of the facilities without being radiated (to kill or weaken the virus) and mixed with normal flu material making it an even more potent potential bioweapon under a false label unless it was part of a deliberate plan.

    In spite of the overwhelming evidence of a crime that posed a real and deadly danger to the Austrian people, the prosecutor at Korneuburg has dropped the case against Baxter.

    As this extract from Wikipedia makes clear, the biosafety level 3 regulations make accidentally contaminating 72 kilos of vaccine material with the live bird flu virus about as easy as it would be to get 72 tonnes of gold out of the high security vault of the Austrian national bank.

    "Biosafety level 3
    This level is applicable to clinical, diagnostic, teaching, research, or production facilities in which work is done with indigenous or exotic agents which may cause serious or potentially lethal disease after inhalation.

    ....Laboratory personnel have specific training in handling pathogenic and potentially lethal agents, and are supervised by competent scientists who are experienced in working with these agents. This is considered a neutral or warm zone.

    All procedures involving the manipulation of infectious materials are conducted within biological safety cabinets or other physical containment devices, or by personnel wearing appropriate personal protective clothing and equipment. The laboratory has special engineering and design features.

    It is recognized, however, that some existing facilities may not have all the facility features recommended for Biosafety Level 3 (i.e., double-door access zone and sealed penetrations). In this circumstance, an acceptable level of safety for the conduct of routine procedures, (e.g., diagnostic procedures involving the propagation of an agent for identification, typing, susceptibility testing, etc.), may be achieved in a biosafety level 2 facility, providing

    1. the filtered exhaust air from the laboratory room is discharged to the outdoors,
    2. the ventilation to the laboratory is balanced to provide directional airflow into the room,
    3. access to the laboratory is restricted when work is in progress, and
    4. the recommended Standard Microbiological Practices, Special Practices, and Safety Equipment for Biosafety Level 3 are rigorously followed."

    Youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8c9J...layer_embedded


    http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?...id=105&lang=en

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    Two pregnant women here in NC died last week from H1N1.

    In all, a total of 5 people died of H1N1 in NC last week.

    I am sure they will find comfort in your conspiracies.

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    Germany signed a secret contract to prepare for a pandemic of deadly flu – in 2007!

    http://www.infowars.com/germanys-sec...cine-contract/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMJ View Post
    Playing on your fears.. Setting you up for acclimation. Problem, reaction, solution.

    How are they going to do it? Leaked plans tells us how. Most sheep will line up and be upset when they can't get one. In fact on the local news right now people are upset because they can't get one. See how that works? Making them want it. They set up locations all around the US to disperse them. Those locations start at the usual places then increase to places more frequented such as airports and grocery stores. Now lets imagine they use those extraordinary powers to say that since you haven;t had your shot you can't go to the store or take that flight? Eventually most will submit. The only ones they have to round up are those who have dodged all of those bullets.
    On this busy holiday weekend people get to board planes with those who just snorted up a live virus.

    Swine flu: Chicago begins offering inoculations at airports
    Shots available at clinic run by UIC at O'Hare; Midway effort may start this weekend
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/health...,7523324.story


    Ukraine Dead Increase to 354 - Fatal H1N1 Cases Have D225G
    http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11...raine_354.html

    WHO Silence on D225G Immune Escape Raises Concerns
    http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11...scape_WHO.html

    D225G Evades Immune Response
    http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11...25G_Evade.html

    Worldwide Transmission of D225G
    http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11...D225G_WWT.html
    Last edited by JMJ; 11-30-2009 at 01:42 PM.

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    WHO Confirms D225G Vaccine Failure

    http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11...D225G_Vac.html

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    100% of those that have died from swine flu did not read this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    100% of those that have died from swine flu did not read this thread.
    Still sticking up for the organization keeping a lid on potentially life saving information eh? Don't you think people should know that those people are dying from something that isn't helped by the vaccine being pushed on them? Or are you down with eugenics?

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    100% of the CDC is not reading this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    100% of the CDC is not reading this thread.
    Oh I'm absolutely positive they aren't reading the information which tells them they are wrong and/or deceived either.. Just like Al Gore and his followers don't want to be told they are/were wrong and/or deceived.

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    100% of the Obama administration did not consult JMJ for advice on how to treat swine flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    100% of the Obama administration did not consult JMJ for advice on how to treat swine flu.
    Oh I quite sure an administration full of eugenicists isn't going to listen to anyone but other eugenicists.

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    100% of those who have developed a new strain of drug resistant swine flu are worried about staying alive (including the four in North Carolina at Duke University) especially after 2 in France died who had a similar new strain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    100% of those who have developed a new strain of drug resistant swine flu are worried about staying alive (including the four in North Carolina at Duke University) especially after 2 in France died who had a similar new strain.
    I guess I can safely assume you haven't read the most recent information I posted and how it plays into that very subject... Not surprising.

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    The 4 that died while attending hajj did not read this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    The 4 that died while attending hajj did not read this thread.
    So the WHO and CDC is doing them a favor by withholding information.. I see.

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