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[Tia Wood]

Thanks for the links. Most of the worlds major religions are based on absolute moralism. You know, ten commandments, stuff like that. Are you saying that the world would be better off if Christians set aside absolute moralism and embraced moral relativism or nihilism? Are you suggesting that other major global religions are more tolerant* of behavior that contradicts their beliefs? Did you single out Christians because of familiarity, disdain or some other reason?

* if so, please provide comparative beheading stats

I don't like words shoved in my mouth as with any person. "absolute moralism" is not the problem.

When I said this:

"I may not agree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it."

I wish everyone could learn what that means. Also this one, too. Because this is the reason why (most) Christians can't understand why there are many different religions, beliefs and lifestyles around the world and why the way we treat each other is far more important.

It means: there are many different religions, beliefs and lifestyles around the world. It is that way because of "moral relativism" (they way people are raised, relate to one another, learn, live, environment, culture, etc. )

American Christianity is no exception to this.
Why do we use this as a reason to inflict hate crime on others? Or deny others of lawful rights when they are "free minded adults"? Why are these upbringings far more important than the basic universal human right of peace and prosperity?

Did you single out Christians because of familiarity, disdain or some other reason?

That statement was never meant to be a Christian bash ( I am one myself) but a generalization of how it relates to the forum topic.

[Anthony Ng]

People choose to be gay.

Oh yeah. LOL!

Ashamed of what? Not supporting the minority who believe Gay Marriage should be legalized?

You honestly still don't get it, do you? It's NOT about majority or minority but what's right and what's wrong! Remeber 40 years ago, the *majority* of Americans were NOT willing to vote for a *well-qualified black* for President, even AFTER the Civil Rights Act was passed.

[DomainsInc]

Ashamed? I don't think so. You people on other side love to compare the so called gay struggle with what blacks and women have had to endure in the past. Its insulting. People choose to be gay. That's fine and dandy as long as the government doesn't force churches and other organizations to except it on the same legal/moral ground as a heterosexual relationship.

I'll have to assume you don't know anyone who is gay on a personal level. If you do you wouldn't say that they "choose" to be gay.

[Gerry]

I'll have to assume you don't know anyone who is gay on a personal level. If you do you wouldn't say that they "choose" to be gay.

Meanwhile, some people choose to be ignorant to all things around them.

[katherine]

Ignorance is bliss for some

[Gerry]

I love all the democracy and freedoms discussion.

We should acknowledge the beliefs and practices of some but not all.

This is where we kind of lost site of things when people interpreted to constitution to be the rights of the heterosexual white male as in All Men are Created Equal. We did not even grant women the right to vote.

[000]

I don't like words shoved in my mouth as with any person.

Me neither. Let us know if anyone misquotes you or twists your words.

"absolute moralism" is not the problem... there are many different religions, beliefs and lifestyles around the world. It is that way because of "moral relativism" (they way people are raised, relate to one another, learn, live, environment, culture, etc. )

Yes, people subscribe to many different philosophies but moral relativism is simply one branch of philosophy, not the root of other branches. The deep meaningful nature of philosophy makes it logical that some branches don't get along.

American Christianity is no exception to this. Why do we use this as a reason to inflict hate crime on others?

We? Who is using American Christianity as a reason to inflict hate crime?

Why are these upbringings far more important than the basic universal human right of peace and prosperity?

The absolute moralism of major religions is generally aligned with noble ideals of peace and prosperity. [religious wars tirade response goes here] On the other hand, moral relativism defines no absolute right/wrong such as peace/war or prosperity/poverty. Few human rights declarations or treaties go as far as to guarantee anyone peace or prosperity.

That statement was never meant to be a Christian bash ( I am one myself) but a generalization of how it relates to the forum topic.

That does not explain your selective criticism of one specific religion.

[draggar]

We? Who is using American Christianity as a reason to inflict hate crime?

People who commit hate crimes in the name of the Catholic church?

Hmm, Eric Rudolph, the KKK, the "Christian Identity".

And if you really want to go back,

The crusades, Emperor Benedict's "conquest" to make Europe 100% Christian by either force-converting or killing anyone who wasn't Christian.

The Spanish inquisition, the Salem Witch trials,

Need I continue?

[000]

Calm down draggar. My question was based on the grammatical use of the word we. Thanks for the religious crime history.

[INVIGOR]

Oh brother... another one of "those" threads...

This is really helping my domaining!

[Donald Aquilano]

People who commit hate crimes in the name of the Catholic church?

Hmm, Eric Rudolph, the KKK, the "Christian Identity".

And if you really want to go back,

The crusades, Emperor Benedict's "conquest" to make Europe 100% Christian by either force-converting or killing anyone who wasn't Christian.

The Spanish inquisition, the Salem Witch trials,

Need I continue?

What you mention is a very small group of people who have used religion to harm people. Most do not subscribe to their radical version of Christianity. It only takes a few bad apples to have people start crucifying all believers in Christianity.

[Raider]

Who is using American Christianity as a reason to inflict hate crime?

I'd like to know the answer to that one myself.

I hope she doesn't come back and say she answered it already.

[draggar]

What you mention is a very small group of people who have used religion to harm people. Most do not subscribe to their radical version of Christianity. It only takes a few bad apples to have people start crucifying all believers in Christianity.

Exactly! The same can be said for almost any other group.

Only a small fraction of Muslims are terrorists. Only a small fraction of PETA supporters commit bombings and vandalize. Only a small fraction of homosexuals are militant about the whole "same-sex marriage" issue. Only a small fraction of domainers are true cyber-squatters.

Many people tend to generalize what they are not and tend to not generalize when it comes to what they are. I'm willing to bet not a single person here would say that all domainers are cyber-squatters and most of us react when the media clumps us all together in that group yet I see the same being done almost everywhere I go (with the exception of one forum which banned all political style threads and actively enforce it).

I'd hate to say it but most people are quite hypocritical because of this - including myself even though I try not to be. Once you start to generalize outside of the definition of what you are defining, then you turn into a hypocrite.

[Adatise]

You, my 'friend' are a grade one asshole .. Yeah, I said it .. And I rarely make such statements.
While I may not have the elocution of Doc Com I call it like I see it.
Remember the 'Crusaders'?

Thanks. You might read my initial post again as I said in large print that I didn't necessarily agree with it, and I was posting it for opinions. Have a nice day good Sir.

Namaste

[Gerry]

...you turn into a hypocrite.

I love hypocrites. Gives me a sense of self-worth and a club to belong to.

[Adatise]

Here is one that will make you think! I recently read that all little boys are gay until about the age of 10 and most women have had at least one romantic lesbian experience in their lifetime.

If I was reincarnated as a woman, I am positive that I would be a lesbian, because I like women to much to ever change.

[Gerry]

I am now known as Whoremonger.

[Adatise]

Edited out.