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[Adatise]

I Just posted this for opinions as I am certainly not a bible thumper nor anti gay and I only watch alternative news that tells the truth!




A Coach In Childress , Texas

Writes To ABC Network

Jim Writes:

My name is Jim Neugent. I wrote to ABC (on-line) concerning a program called 'THE PRACTICE.' In last nights episode, one of the lawyer's mothers decided she is gay and wanted her son to go to court and help her get a marriage license so she could marry her 'partner.' I sent the following letter to ABC yesterday and really did not expect a reply, but I did get one.



My original message was:

ABC is obsessed with the subject of homosexuality. I will no longer watch any of your attempts to convince the world that homosexuality is OK. ' THE PRACTICE' can be a fairly good show, but last night's program was so typical of your agenda. You picked the 'dufus' of the office to be the one who was against the idea of his mother being gay, and made him look like a whiner because he had convictions.. This type of mentality calls people like me a 'gay basher.'


Read the first chapter of Romans (that's in the Bible); and see what the apostle Paul had to say about it..... He, God and Jesus were all 'gay bashers'. What if she'd fallen in love with her cocker spaniel? Is that an alternative life style? (By the way, the Bible speaks against that, too.)
--Jim Neugent

Here is ABC's reply from the ABC on-line webmaster:

How about getting your nose out of the Bible (which is ONLY a book of stories compiled by MANY different writers hundreds of years ago) and read the declaration of independence (what our nation is built on), where it says 'All Men are Created equal,' and try treating them that way for a change!

Or better yet, try thinking for yourself and stop using an archaic book of stories as your lame crutch for your existence. You are in the minority in this country, and your boycott will not affect us at ABC or our freedom of statement.



Jim Neugent's second response to ABC:


Thanks for your reply. From your harsh reply, evidently I hit a nerve. I will share it with all with whom I come in contact. Hopefully, the Arkansas Democrat Newspaper will include it in one of their columns and I will be praying for you.

- -Jim Neugent- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

[draggar]

I love ABC"s response - I actually gained some respect for them if this is true. No wishy-washy, all happy-go-lucky, response. Straight forward and no BS.

Edit: Partially true - http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/practice.asp

Either because Mr. Neugent used the wrong e-mail link or no other link was readily available, his message was delivered to an employee in the tech group tasked with maintaining ABC's web site (not to the Public Relations or Audience Information department), who took it upon himself to respond to the complaint in a rude and insulting manner, even though the issue was clearly one outside his area of responsibility:

ABC later issued an apology:

We apologize for the e-mail message that was sent to you with comments that reflect neither the view of ABC nor of its executives. Viewer mail is traditionally handled by our Audience Information department for response. Your message was inappropriately handled by a programmer from ABC.com. I want to assure you that the response that you received does not in any way reflect the views of ABC Television, and most importantly is not at all consistent with the manner in which KATV, our valued partner in Little Rock, would ever treat their audience/community members.

Unfortunately, as in any organization, there are bound to be a few individuals that step out of line. To that end, we completed a comprehensive investigation into the matter earlier this afternoon. While the individual was deeply contrite and wanted to apologize to you, we felt that his actions were reprehensible and terminated him immediately.

Specifically in response to your original concerns regarding the subject of homosexuality in our programming, the ABC programming department has tried to treat such subjects in a sensitive manner. We recognize that we are serving a large, diverse audience with a wide range of attitudes towards all types of entertainment programming. We believe that programs thoughtfully reflecting social issues existing in our present society constitute proper television faire. We appreciate your original comments and take serious note of your thoughts on the potential direction of future story lines.

We are glad that you brought the e-mail incident to our attention. We truly regret that this happened, and we hope you understand by our actions that we will not tolerate this kind of behavior from any member of our staff.

Finally, I would like to once again add that the response that you received should in no way be attributed to our partner in Little Rock, KATV. As you well know, KATV has been the news and public affairs leader in Little Rock for years, and will be for many more. A finer, more committed television station does not exist. I would not want their reputation to suffer in any way due to our mishap.

Please accept our apologies and regrets.
Sincerely,
Daren Benzi
ABC Television Network

(Quoted from Snopes.com @ the link above)

[Tia Wood]

I'm a non-denominational Christian.

"What if she'd fallen in love with her cocker spaniel?" That is a stupid comparison.

The problem here is this isn't a "Christian only" nation. There are many different lawful lifestyles and beliefs here GUARANTEED to be protected by our constitution. That is one of the many beauties about America. The real problem here is Christians using their religion to discriminate against a group of people who lawfully agree and consent to have relations with one another. Gays face so much discrimination, violence, harm and "hate" to the point where they are afraid to go out in public and have a normal life, one that is frankly none of our business.

[Gerry]

ABC news is owned by the parent company of Disney.

Donald Duck wears no pants and has three sons born out of wedlock with Daisy Duck.

[fab]

OK, Adatise, three strikes you're out. I'm returning my glasses!

[draggar]

The problem here is this isn't a "Christian only" nation. There are many different lifestyles and beliefs here. That is one of the many beauties about America. The real problem here is Christians using their religion to discriminate against a group of people who lawfully agree and consent to have relations with one another. Gays face so much discrimination, violence, harm and "hate" to the point where they are afraid to go out in public and have a normal life, one that is frankly none of our business.

Don't forget - it's the Catholic church (a division of Christianity - not all Christians nor all churches) who reassigned many priests to different churches for molesting young boys yet are firing one who had a consensual relationship with an adult woman.

It seems that some of the Catholic chruch's leadership has a rather hypocritical view on this subject.

Edit: It was Padre Alberto Cutié

ABC news is owned by the parent company of Disney.

Donald Duck wears no pants and has three sons born out of wedlock with Daisy Duck.

*lol*

I thought they were his parentless nephews?

[fab]

Donald Duck wears no pants and has three sons born out of wedlock with Daisy Duck.

How dare you!

[Tia Wood]

Don't forget - it's the Catholic church (a division of Christianity - not all Christians nor all churches) who reassigned many priests to different churches for molesting young boys yet are firing one who had a consensual relationship with an adult woman.

That's f****g sad.

[fab]

Gays face so much discrimination, violence, harm and "hate" to the point where they are afraid to go out in public and have a normal life, one that is frankly none of our business.

How in the world do you know who is gay, if they don't publicize, and where do you get your information regarding violence?

"What if she'd fallen in love with her cocker spaniel?" That is a stupid comparison.

Agree with you on that, but the rest has credence.

[Tia Wood]

How in the world do you know who is gay, if they don't publicize, and where do you get your information regarding violence?

Yes, they don't go around wearing tags or signs. Where do I get my information? Are you living in a bubble? lol.

http://www.google.com/news?q=%22gay+violence%22
http://www.google.com/search?q="anti-gay+violence"

[draggar]

I'll agree - the new "minority" dealing with the strongest prejudice now are homosexuals and bisexuals. I work with some and they have told me that outside of a few areas here they need to be careful with how they act in public.

We actually had someone attacking men in Wilton Manors specifically targeting homosexual men (and these attacks are extremely violent).

[Donald Aquilano]

A majority of Americans think that Gay marriage shouldn't be legal and I'm one of them. I Guess I'm a bad guy? I can understand why this person is upset after all the news networks are all about jamming alternative lifestyles down are throats.

BTW....This is old news from 1999.

[Tia Wood]

A majority of Americans think that Gay marriage shouldn't be legal and I'm one of them. I Guess I'm a bad guy?

Of course not. Your opinion doesn't make you a bad guy. It's the actions some people make that contribute to hate crime.

[Donald Aquilano]

Of course not. Your opinion doesn't make you a bad guy. It's the actions some people make that contribute to hate crime.

These types of crimes that you speak of are rare and not supported by any religious people or group I know of. Hurting someone for embracing the gay lifestyle is just idiotic and stupid.

[fab]

Question: What is the source of marriage, or in other words, when and how did the process evolve.

[Adatise]

OK, Adatise, three strikes you're out. I'm returning my glasses!

I did reduce the print. I swear. Is that print to large also? Yikes. Sorry. I also might add that I see some excellent opinions thus far. Doc Com's reply gave me a great belly laugh, ^_^. Perhaps we should initiate a class action lawsuit over Walt Disney's distasteful cartoons. I can see the headlines now.

Doc Com and DNF members take on Walt Disney for child porn cartoons.

DNForum members sue Disney for Billions for inappropriate cartoons and win.

DNForum members vote unanimously to give most monies received from the settlement away to the poor and hungry people (and animals) throughout the world, after they all bought themselves only one premium million dollar domain name each.

One member named FAB didn't have his glasses on and thought his settlement was much less and ends up buying only a $100 domain before he gives the the other millions away accidentally, ^_^.

Adatise feels sorry for Fab and gives his million dollar domain to Fab free for causing Fab to return his glasses and quit using them, from Adatise using to large of print in his threads.

Can anyone add to these possible headlines?

[Gerry]

I am amazed at the fear many have of different cultures, races, sexual orientation, rituals etc.

Not once has anyone in any walk of life convinced me that I must be like them.

I respect and honor the one simple fact that there are differences in all of these issues.

Honor is the keyword - I honor the fact that someone has the rights to be Catholic, Jewish, Lesbian, gay, athiest, etc, etc, etc.

This does not mean I condone nor approve of these actions but I honor the basic principle that people have the right (birthright, genetic, chosen) to be different.

I do not honor nor accept any one notion that they have the right to hurt, abuse, maim, kill another human.



Again, I am appalled and condemn the stupidity of an elected officials like Jesse Helms (Aids is God's way of punishing homosexuals) and Virginia Foxx (the Matthew Shepherd bill was a hoax) and am ashamed that they represent(ed) North Carolina.

This has infuriated me to no end.

After that speech, Virginia Foxx said she had her facts wrong and then blamed it all on a staffer's research. This is the person who gave her staff a 12% bonus. Her payroll is 51% HIGHER than any other North Carolina Congressional person.

When questioned about this, she had the nerve to tell the reported to go ask congress about the money lost to TARP etc.

Um, isn't that her job?

Remember, this is my tax dollars and your tax dollars going to congressional staffers. I do not mind someone nor begrudge someone from getting a bonus.

But it seemed that they decided to spend, spend, spend, their annual office budget to the very end and extreme.

[Adatise]

You are an excellent writer Doc Com. I am not taking any sides on this issue though. I remain neutral and plead the 5th amendment.

[HarveyJ]

These types of crimes that you speak of are rare and not supported by any religious people or group I know of. Hurting someone for embracing the gay lifestyle is just idiotic and stupid.

How can you not know of the Westboro Baptist Church with all the news coverage they get?!
I live on the other side of the world and know about them and their Anti Everything That Isn't Caucasian Heterosexual Christian American agenda.
Anyway, being against gay marriage is one thing. Personally, if they want to be as unhappy as everyone else, good luck to them. The problem Meganerd brings up is that people use religion as an incitement to violence.

Fab: Marriage is a property law issue, that's made to seem sanctioned by a higher power via religious use. If you get married without a religious ceremony, you'll see that it equates to nothing more than property issues.
It in no way validates an actually committed relationship. If it did, 55% of them wouldn't end in divorce, and 65% of people wouldn't have extramarital affairs... Whilst I can't remember the source, I do remember reading a statistic that de-facto couples have a much lower rate of extra-relationship affairs.

[Gerry]

You are an excellent writer Doc Com. I am not taking any sides on this issue though. I remain neutral and plead the 5th amendment.

You don't have to take sides.

Just don't move to NC and vote for Virginia Foxx.

By the way, as Matthew Shepard's mother pointed out, Foxx's apology was clearly for the semantics (I should not have said it was a hoax) and not for her words, thoughts, or actions as she went on to vote AGAINST the hate crime bill, the very bill that she was referring to when she said his death was a hoax.

Now she truly has to give her staff bonuses because they have had to man the phones 24 hours a day just fielding all the calls and death threats and other BS.