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    Another disaster looming for Obama

    This guy was suppose to run the new Gitmo facility. And just so you can get an understanding that NOTHING has changed between Obama and Bush (except some names) Blackwater=XE=APF . They were trying to put a private security force in charge of a facility within the US. Not only that "American Police Force" assumed they were going to take over the actual policing of the town. Rolling into town with police stickers on their cars and all. And to put icing on the cake this guys wife was running for Mayor. Welcome to Amerika!

    UPDATE: As it turns out this guy so far has 14 felonies on his record and 17 known aliases.

    APF Founder Has Criminal Background

    BILLINGS - More questions Wednesday night in Hardin following revelations that American Police Force's founder Michael Hilton owns an extensive criminal record.

    It appears Hilton has been involved in several fraud cases and has even spent six years in a California prison.

    According to the Associated Press, court documents show that Hilton has $1.1 million dollars worth of outstanding judgments against him. Records indicate Hilton has multiple aliases, and has twice declared bankruptcy.

    Fraud cases include luring investors into a fake real estate development project, convincing a couple to give him a silver statue worth $100,000 dollars, and pocketing construction funds.

    Hilton landed a six year prison term in 1993 for a dozen counts of grand theft among other charges.

    A California doctor who said he was conned by Hilton said he was stunned to learn Hilton was planning a major venture in Montana.

    "I didn't even sleep last night because of the memories that it conjured up, he's the reason I had to go bankrupt. I lost my practice, I had some mental issues because of this. He was using up other people's money, mainly mine, and other people, like a Ponzi scheme."

    Calls to new APF Spokewoman Becky Shay, Two Rivers Authority Vice President Al Peterson, and Hardin Mayor Ron Adams were not returned.

    Originally printed at http://www.kulr8.com/news/local/63026202.html


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    Visitors to APF's Blackwater-esque Web site listen to Ravel's Boléro and peruse a menu of services that include: harbor patrol threat interdiction, interdicting terror activity, interdicting weapons of mass destruction, international airline security, cheating spouse investigations, polygraph testing, kidnapping response, weapons sales including "Nuclear/Biological/Chemical (WMD)," and, finally, private investigative services that draw on "vast global network of highly ranked officers and government officials."

    APF's double-headed eagle coat of arms appears to be the same as Serbia's Prince Aleksandar Karageorgevich, Raw Story points out. And the AP reported that a lawyer for APF describes the firm as "a fledgling spin-off of a major security firm founded in 1984."

    Late Update: Yet another strange development: This page on APF's Web site brags about "our extensive tactical firearms training facility, the U.S. Training Center." But the U.S. Training Center is part of Xe, nee Blackwater. And Xe spokeswoman Stacy DeLuke told us there is no affiliation between Xe and APF.

    Then go to.

    http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/special.html

    Our extensive tactical firearms training facility, the U.S. Training Center is capable of providing a wide range of instruction and training for all types of law enforcement organizations. From basic firearms training to complex SWAT tactics our corps of instructors can meet all your training requirements.

    Which leads too.

    http://www.ustraining.com/new/index.asp

    Copyright © 2009 U.S. Training Center - All Rights Reserved webmaster@ustraining.com. An Xe company.

    Hardin, Montana under siege!
    http://www.infowars.com/hardin-montana-under-siege/
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    I agree that this needs to be exposed but your "headline" does nothing to set the tone for the story. The story here is Black Water USA aka XE , aka American Police Force and what they have done and are doing.

    If you want to make every post about Obama that is your choice but you aren't helping to expose Black Water and you are diluting the impact of the story. If you can work Obama into your headline but still get the main point across that Black Water is trying to create a privatized police force in Hardin Montana through a subsidiary with a CEO that has a criminal history go for it.

    Or if you wanted to end the post by saying the Obama administration has ignored demands by citizens to end Black Water government contracts and that this will become Obama's mess I'd concur with that as it is totally relevant. However, I am hoping congress will act to end these contracts as well as contracts for Halliburton and many other war whores soon.

    The Democratic Underground's members have been actively uncovering this in the last few days and it looks like your post is closely related:

    Democratic Underground discussion of American Police Force

    The Ron Paul meet up groups has been discussing this story in depth too.

    Unfortunately the main stream media isn't covering this and the only exposure it is getting is from independent media ,word of mouth, and posts on the net. Let's hope it goes viral and the MSM will be forced to cover it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by think View Post
    I agree that this needs to be exposed but your "headline" does nothing to set the tone for the story. The story here is Black Water USA aka XE , aka American Police Force and what they have done and are doing.

    If you want to make every post about Obama that is your choice but you aren't helping to expose Black Water and you are diluting the impact of the story. If you can work Obama into your headline but still get the main point across that Black Water is trying to create a privatized police force in Hardin Montana through a subsidiary with a CEO that has a criminal history go for it.

    Or if you wanted to end the post by saying the Obama administration has ignored demands by citizens to end Black Water government contracts and that this will become Obama's mess I'd concur with that as it is totally relevant. However, I am hoping congress will act to end these contracts as well as contracts for Halliburton and many other war whores soon.

    The Democratic Underground's members have been actively uncovering this in the last few days and it looks like your post is closely related:

    Democratic Underground discussion of American Police Force

    The Ron Paul meet up groups has been discussing this story in depth too.

    Unfortunately the main stream media isn't covering this and the only exposure it is getting is from independent media ,word of mouth, and posts on the net. Let's hope it goes viral and the MSM will be forced to cover it.
    The reason this is a problem for Obama is because Gitmo was and is one of this "pet projects" and promises. There is no way he can deny knowing who was going to be contracted. And that is blackwater mercs on US soil policing the people and running that prison. This was a trial run. They had plans to do this same thing in a number of other towns/cities. This was more or less a coup d'etat attempt on this small town. The town was broke and this was their solution.
    Last edited by JMJ; 10-01-2009 at 02:34 PM.

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    I hardly see how any company, subsidiary, or offshoot affiliation of Blackwater has to do with Obama.

    Lets see, you are trying to connect the dots.

    Here. Let me help.

    Hardin Montana has a prison. They make a bid to house the Gitmo detainees. They lose the bid. The town of Hardin then turns to Amercian Police Force to see if they would be interested in the property.

    Turns out the CEO of APF is a convicted criminal. And APF uses Blackwaters training facilities to train individuals in defensive driving and weapons.

    And all of this is an Obama problem?

    Where does your mind find the time and energy to connect every woe, bad deal, bad person, the ills, the viruses, the problems of society all is a direct result of Obama being in the whitehouse for a mere 9 months.

    Honestly, I look at the title of some of these threads and can not keep track of who is starting them because I am convinced all of you came out of the same pod from the mother ship.

    "Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
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    USA Today and CBS have picked up the story, so it is getting some mainstream coverage.

    USA Today Article
    CBS Article
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    I hardly see how any company, subsidiary, or offshoot affiliation of Blackwater has to do with Obama.

    Lets see, you are trying to connect the dots.

    Here. Let me help.

    Hardin Montana has a prison. They make a bid to house the Gitmo detainees. They lose the bid. The town of Hardin then turns to Amercian Police Force to see if they would be interested in the property.

    Turns out the CEO of APF is a convicted criminal. And APF uses Blackwaters training facilities to train individuals in defensive driving and weapons.

    And all of this is an Obama problem?

    Where does your mind find the time and energy to connect every woe, bad deal, bad person, the ills, the viruses, the problems of society all is a direct result of Obama being in the whitehouse for a mere 9 months.

    Honestly, I look at the title of some of these threads and can not keep track of who is starting them because I am convinced all of you came out of the same pod from the mother ship.
    So the town gets denied but blackwater/APF gets ok'ed and you don't see anything screwy with that? The town didn't contact these people. They came in and conned the town into it all. This was a trial run Doc. You don't get what the objective is. They don't want these towns to be self-sufficient. They want them dependent on federal government money. So they deny the town itself and send in a Federal contracted and funded company to run the town.
    Last edited by JMJ; 10-01-2009 at 03:05 PM.

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    Blackwater / XE leave a trail of corruption and human rights abuses wherever they go. Government officials should be forced to answer questions over this.
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    So the town gets denied but blackwater/APF gets ok'ed and you don't see anything screwy with that? The town didn't contact these people. They came in and conned the town into it all. This was a trial run Doc. You don't get what the objective is. They don't want these towns to be self-sufficient. They want them dependent on federal government money. So they deny the town itself and send in a Federal contracted and funded company to run the town.

    Do you even bother to read the bullshit that you cite as your own sources????

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...na.php?ref=fpb

    Hardin, which is in default on the bonds it used to build the jail, recently undertook an unsuccessful campaign to make the jail a new home for Gitmo detainees. When that failed, the town turned to APF

    What the ****? Did they think this was another movie, build it and they will come bullshit?

    You don't even read your own sources. The only thing you do, do, is perpetuate the damn conspiracy whack jobs.



    I went back and added a quote with your own words just to show you how much of a damn fool you are making of yourself.
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    Nevermind, I posted a bad link...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    Do you even bother to read the bullshit that you cite as your own sources????

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...na.php?ref=fpb

    Hardin, which is in default on the bonds it used to build the jail, recently undertook an unsuccessful campaign to make the jail a new home for Gitmo detainees. When that failed, the town turned to APF

    What the ****? Did they think this was another movie, build it and they will come bullshit?

    You don't even read your own sources. The only thing you do, do, is perpetuate the damn conspiracy whack jobs.


    I went back and added a quote with your own words just to show you how much of a damn fool you are making of yourself.
    It says "turned to". IE they went to the next option which was obviously sitting there waiting. Who's going to this new and unknown company to solve their financial problem unless it was laid at their feet.

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    Perhaps two decades ago, a group in Montana tried to get a motion on their state ballot to allow the citizens of Montana to vote whether to succeede from the US to Canada.

    Canada doesn't even want them.

    But I'll bet the citizens of Montana would love to have you and the rest of your ships' crew into their fold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    Perhaps two decades ago, a group in Montana tried to get a motion on their state ballot to allow the citizens of Montana to vote whether to succeede from the US to Canada.

    Canada doesn't even want them.

    But I'll bet the citizens of Montana would love to have you and the rest of your ships' crew into their fold.
    That's ok I already live in one of the only states in the US who has re-affirmed it's sovereignty thanks in part to me. if these are the kind of people you want running your "ship" then jump on board because my "ship" is going to shoot them down every time.

    Just to show you that this is a bi-partisan problem of corruption. This is Max Baucus' district. You know the guy spearheading the health care plan which something similar will likely be forced on the American people? Who knows maybe they had even more sinister plans for that facility. They are all corrupt. Including your beloved Obama.

    As it turns out this guy so far has 14 felonies on his record and 17 known aliases.
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