Bachmann vs. US History

[Gerry]

Honestly, if you don't know historical facts, DON'T QUOTE historical facts.

And, if you get it wrong...admit it and move on. DON'T TRY TO CONVINCE THE PUBLIC THAT YOU WERE RIGHT.

Case in point - Palin's account of Paul Revere's ride. Remember that? Part of her tour??? You know, the tour that was abruptly cancelled as there was little interest and little crowds???


Well, enter Michelle Bachmann. Recently she had repeatedly mentioned that the Founding Fathers have worked tirelessly to abolish slavery.

"the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States....Men like John Quincy Adams, who would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country."


Today, I saw a clip of her on George Stephanopoulos trying to clarify what she said.






Here's the funniest part - she repeatedly make reference to John Quincy Adams as a founding father.

In 1776 when his father, John Adams, signed the declaration of independence, John Quincy Adams was all of, egad...9 years old.


Honestly, if you don't know - don't say anything.

If you do say something, apologize for getting it wrong. Don't rewrite history to side with you...that's not how it works.

[Infoproliferati]

"It didn't matter the color of their skin, it didn't matter their language, it didn't matter their economic status, it didn't matter whether they were descended from nobility, it didn't matter whether they were of a higher class or lower class. It made no difference. Once you got here we were all the same..."

Now we know who skipped history class.

[Raider]

Is this going to be another one of those "Paul Revere" threads where the OP blindly and ignorantly posted about History he didn't know about himself? How he proved Sarah Palin right and made a complete FOOL out of himself. I suppose being a Parrot for the left wing media is far more important to him.


I'll say one thing for Bachmann, at least she knows the age of her own Children;


Obama Gets The Age Of His Own Daughter Wrong;




What kind of Father doesn't remember the age of their own kids?


Every time this guy does a press conference without a teleprompter guiding him at his every word, He looks like a complete idiot. He comes off as so inarticulate that it's embarrassing.

[Gerry]

Wikipedia had to put a halt to all the edits attempted on the Paul Revere page.

As is predictable, thousands of loyalists to Palin wanted to rewrite history as Palin saw it.

Now, precious Mother Eva is going to go on to tell us how a 9 year old boy is actually a "founding father", a la Bachmann style.
History class is in session, ladies and gents, brought to you by Sanctus Domainus Mother Eva.

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"It didn't matter the color of their skin, it didn't matter their language, it didn't matter their economic status, it didn't matter whether they were descended from nobility, it didn't matter whether they were of a higher class or lower class. It made no difference. Once you got here we were all the same..."

Now we know who skipped history class.

Yes, I caught that as well. Everyone arrived on these shores as equals. Pretty astounding.

We are fortunate to have with us Mother Eva herself who claims that Palin made a fool out of me and now she is going to elaborate how Bachmann made a fool out of me.

She, Mother Eva, obviously did not skip her history lessons as she will now school us.

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I wonder, are the same people behind these two Rhodes scholars the same Texas school book board who wants to rid the books about the slave trade and call it the Atlantic Triangular Trade?

[H2FC]

Obama Gets The Age Of His Own Daughter Wrong;


What kind of Father doesn't remember the age of their own kids?


Every time this guy does a press conference without a teleprompter guiding him at his every word, He looks like a complete idiot. He comes off as so inarticulate that it's embarrassing.

Obama referred to his daughter being 13 while she still had a few days to go before her July 4th birthday. Well, OMG!!...isn't that a terrible to do!!! This guy should not be President!!!

It sure looks like the dumb repugs have stumbled upon a strong case here...don't forget to use that in the next election....hehe.

[Infoproliferati]

For those politician's who can't get history facts right, some nerve they've got trying to cut back on teachers' salaries and pensions.

Raider, you are making a big deal out of the Obama gets his kid's age wrong. You'd be alarmed how many fathers get it wrong.

[Gerry]

Oh, how I long for the days of Bush and the teleprompters...

Fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

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Lets all support the new rhetoric and write history how it is quoted by the elite candidates.

Amazing how some people want so badly for these people to be believable that they will do what ever they can to convince everyone that they are right.

[Raider]

Raider, you are making a big deal out of the Obama gets his kid's age wrong. You'd be alarmed how many fathers get it wrong.

How many Fathers get it wrong when the world is watching? and where the liberal press made a conscious decision not to report on it? I really don't care what he said about his kids, your missing the point, Politicians make gaffes all the time, even the most seasoned politicians do it. Confusing "John Adams" with his son "John Quincy Adams" is quite common, don't tell me you or someone close to you hasn't done it them self, and most are educated in American history.

If it's anyone in this country who needs a history lesson it's Barack Obama when he credited the civil rights march of 1965 known as "Bloody Sunday", claiming the march empowered his Mother and Father to fall in love and get married, and this was NO gaffe, it was a outright LIE;

"Don't tell me I'm not coming home when I come to Selma, Ala. I'm here because somebody marched for our freedom. I'm here because y'all sacrificed for me,"

In the same speech referring to his parents;

"They looked at each other and they decided, 'We know that in the world, as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child, but something is stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across the bridge.' And so they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Ala.!"





The only problem with this is, Obama was born in 1961; the Selma march came 4 years later!


If you go to the Youtube link and read some of the comments, somebody by the name of "Chicago Voter" wrote this;

"Saul Alinksky, another Chicago community organizer, taught his subjects that lying was acceptable as long as goals are reached"

This is so TRUE, it's what Obama was taught and he's done it all his political life.


Obama's entire campaign was built on lies, misinformation and deception, He got away with it because the left wing media allowed him too, maybe they thought if they called him on it, their organization would be perceived as racist.. Whatever the reason is, they have really done the American people a great injustice by helping elect someone who is clearly incapable of helping solve our nations problems.

Now, precious Mother Eva is going to go on to tell us how a 9 year old boy is actually a "founding father", a la Bachmann style.

Oh no, I'm far more interested in knowing how Barack Jr. was born in 1961 and then again in 1965-1966.. Did his Mother shove him back in and poop him out 5 years later?

don't forget to use that in the next election

We wont have to do that, were going to hang him on his own record

And your pal Al Gore is assisting us with the hanging; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPWNpSAkemg

[H2FC]

We wont have to do that, were going to hang him on his own record

And your pal Al Gore is assisting us with the hanging; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPWNpSAkemg

Its not often I can agree with you but I do this time. Its a fact Obama is not doing all he should be doing in regards to bringing the truth of MMGW climate change to the people. He has dropped the ball on this one and it could very well cost him many votes but I suspect he's smart enough to know that and will be making some changes.

I urge you and all skeptics to watch the Chris Matthews video above with an open mind and read the entire story here http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...0110622?page=1

[Gerry]

Wait, I thought this thread was about Michelle Bachmann.

Then it became a thread about me.

Now its a thread about Al Gore.

Mother eva got more dodging and dancing and ducking moves than Mr. Muhammad Ali.

[Banned: dn-101]

Here's the slogan:
The Witch for President

[Raider]

If were going to post threads about every gaffe a politician makes, NOT for the purpose of meaningful discussion but for the purpose of ridiculing that person, Then I want my questions answered here about a politician who has made more GAFFES and is guilty of more LIES than any other politician in recent history, And I'm going to keep postings these questions until they're answered;


How many Fathers get it wrong when the world is watching? and where the liberal press made a conscious decision not to report on it? I really don't care what he said about his kids, your missing the point, Politicians make gaffes all the time, even the most seasoned politicians do it. Confusing "John Adams" with his son "John Quincy Adams" is quite common, don't tell me you or someone close to you hasn't done it them self, and most are educated in American history.

If it's anyone in this country who needs a history lesson it's Barack Obama when he credited the civil rights march of 1965 known as "Bloody Sunday", claiming the march empowered his Mother and Father to fall in love and get married, and this was NO gaffe, it was a outright LIE;

"Don't tell me I'm not coming home when I come to Selma, Ala. I'm here because somebody marched for our freedom. I'm here because y'all sacrificed for me,"

In the same speech referring to his parents;

"They looked at each other and they decided, 'We know that in the world, as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child, but something is stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across the bridge.' And so they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Ala.!"





The only problem with this is, Obama was born in 1961; the Selma march came 4 years later!


If you go to the Youtube link and read some of the comments, somebody by the name of "Chicago Voter" wrote this;

"Saul Alinksky, another Chicago community organizer, taught his subjects that lying was acceptable as long as goals are reached"

This is so TRUE, it's what Obama was taught and he's done it all his political life.


Obama's entire campaign was built on lies, misinformation and deception, He got away with it because the left wing media allowed him too, maybe they thought if they called him on it, their organization would be perceived as racist.. Whatever the reason is, they have really done the American people a great injustice by helping elect someone who is clearly incapable of helping solve our nations problems.

Now, precious Mother Eva is going to go on to tell us how a 9 year old boy is actually a "founding father", a la Bachmann style.

Oh no, I'm far more interested in knowing how Barack Jr. was born in 1961 and then again in 1965-1966.. Did his Mother shove him back in and poop him out 5 years later?

[Gerry]

I am happy to report that neither Bachmann or Palin are authoring nor editing history books for school kids.


I am appalled at those that attempt to rewrite history when they get it wrong. It seems like the emphasis is not on getting it right to begin with.

[Mike Cruz]

People who can't admit when they are wrong need to be shot. Just saying.

[Tia Wood]

People who can't admit when they are wrong need to be shot. Just saying.

Then everyone would be dead.

[Gerry]

and what's with the Bachmann's being kicked out of their own church?

Perhaps nothing more than a political move after Obama's problems with his preacher running up to the election.

[Banned: dn-101]

Look on bright side.
If either Sarah or Michelle get elected we'll have our woman at the the White House. Well, a cleaning lady. Still, she has your ear.