Biden onForeign Policies

[fab]

fab, I really think you need to go back and re-read your own words.

I am completely wrong?

Simply amazing.

I correct you on historical facts and you attempt to rebuff them.

I provide you a link regard debate facts from BOTH candidates and you now claim that I have strengthened your points.

Sorry if you feel that you have made errors in your assessments, but facts are facts and both candidates got the facts incorrect.

But do go on and tell me where I am "wrong".

I'll be watching football in the meantime.

Well, I was the one that made the original post, and I haven't seen you post one thing contradicting my points.
Lets try number 1.

1. Hezbollah - Biden claimed that the Bush administration let Hezbollah into Lebanon, and then when "we threw them out" he and Obama said NATO should go in but nobody took them up on it and now Hezbollah was all over Lebanon and that's a problem.

Is this true or not?

[Raider]

I actually had at least respect for Biden, but his lack of control over his mouth, and willingness to do say anything to get elected are beyond me.

Biden has a LONG history of doing this, and Obama has noticably been doing the same, it's "Where ever the wind blows" with these two.

With all the anti Iraq members we have here on DNF, Why is it that we never hear a peep out of them for Bidens enthusiastic support of the 2003 invasion of Iraq?... hmmmm

Biden even went a step further and tried to rally support for the war from fellow Democrats... Is a matter of FACT; Biden was calling for the U.S. invasion of Iraq and making false statements regarding Saddam Hussein’s supposed possession of “weapons of mass destruction” years before President George W. Bush even came to office!

How many times have we heard Obama on the campaign accuse his rivals of voting for the Iraq war? And yet, he chooses Biden as his VP.

Go figure.

sorry fab....you lost any credibility with me when you suggested we watch the Glenn Beck video....he's the dumbest clown ever to have his own tv show.

This is what you do best, Name call ANYONE who disagrees with your positions.... In this case; Glenn Beck who is the most out spoken critic of Al Gore, who has successfully exposed the LIES about Global Warming.

[fab]

With all the anti Iraq members we have here on DNF, Why is it that we never hear a peep out of them for Bidens enthusiastic support of the 2003 invasion of Iraq?... hmmmm

This is another one I didn't mention, which he lied about during the debate. What bothers me is that I could barely find 4-5 news sources which reported this material, and almost all were on the Liberal side. I think they were hitting at Biden due to his stands on Israel, and the Iraqi war. Rush Limbaugh barely mentioned it, but the America Thinker Blog mentioned them. No mainstream press whatsoever made anything of them, including the fact checks.

[Gerry]

I can take more time to disprove who did what and when.

And I certainly can.

But this is where you need to conduct your own research.

There are quite a few amazing assumptions regarding candidates beliefs that you have made, as in Obama is only pro-Israel in front of Jewish audiences.

Has he ever denounced the Jewish nation or faith?

We can assume the Pope is Nazi as he is from Germany.

I would rather work on some sites and continue on watching the NFL.

Right now at this very moment the most important thing to me is the Carolina Panthers shut out the Kansas Chiefs 34-0.

[fab]

I can take more time to disprove who did what and when.

And I certainly can.

But this is where you need to conduct your own research.

There are quite a few amazing assumptions regarding candidates beliefs that you have made, as in Obama is only pro-Israel in front of Jewish audiences.

Has he ever denounced the Jewish nation or faith?

We can assume the Pope is Nazi as he is from Germany.

I would rather work on some sites and continue on watching the NFL.

Right now at this very moment the most important thing to me is the Carolina Panthers shut out the Kansas Chiefs 34-0.

Look Doc, these were some of the things that came to mind to me right away when I heard the debate. I am glad you're pleased with the football results, but the fact that you have headed down towards the middle-end of the list would seem to appear that you agree with me, or need to look into them. Regarding Obama's stance on Israel, I remember that he clearly stated before he appeared in front of Aipac, that there is far too much policy put in favor of Israel, and should be shifted to the Arabs. At Aipac he stated that Jerusalem should be the undivided capital of Israel, then he reverted on that as well. This has actually been discussed here. Aside from the comments made by his former Reverend. He has since consistently shown a pro-Israel stance. If my statements were clearly wrong, I'm sure they would be much more easily noticeable.

There are quite a few amazing assumptions regarding candidates beliefs that you have made, as in Obama is only pro-Israel in front of Jewish audiences.

Has he ever denounced the Jewish nation or faith?

We can assume the Pope is Nazi as he is from Germany.

Jewish nation or faith is not the same as pro-Israel. I can provide links if necessary, but I think my point was clear.

[H2FC]

Glenn Beck who is the most out spoken critic of Al Gore, who has successfully exposed the LIES about Global Warming.

hehehe...this has to be one of the most outrageous comments you've made in these threads.....exactly what "lies" are you referring to?....no, you don't have to answer that....I know you're just as ignorant as Beck is. Thats why I have no use for either one of you.

[Raider]

Right now at this very moment the most important thing to me is the Carolina Panthers shut out the Kansas Chiefs 34-0.

I wonder how many visitors you had in the ER today going into cardiac arrest over that one.

[fab]

hehehe...this has to be one of the most outrageous comments you've made in these threads.....exactly what "lies" are you referring to?....no, you don't have to answer that....I know you're just as ignorant as Beck is. Thats why I have no use for either one of you.

Look if you can't look at a simple clip, which hits at presidents from both parties, I can understand why there's so much hatred in this world.

[Raider]

exactly what "lies" are you referring to?

You wouldn't know the truth from a lie if it hit you in the head

I know you're just as ignorant as Beck is. Thats why I have no use for either one of you.

The ignorant calling others ignorant. That's a good one .

Yeah, you know SO much more than Beck does, I think CNN should give you your own show;
You can call it "Buy my Snake Oil"

Please display your great knowledge for us by debating just one of the lines that Fab made in his original post? Just one... If you can.

[fab]

Please display your great knowledge for us by debating just one of the lines that Fab made in his original post? Just one... If you can.

What bothers me more is the closed mindedness. A Liberal used to impose someone who is open-minded, and if he's a Conservative, then I don't know what to say.

[Gerry]

I wonder how many visitors you had in the ER today going into cardiac arrest over that one.

None. Laid up at home from back and spinal nerve issues. Recently had spinal epidural (actually 2 over 3 week period) with steroids.

Unfortunely no relief.

Missed the entire month of July and it is looking I may miss all of October. Such is life.

As for the ER, it is in competent hands.

Back to the NFL.

[fab]

I can take more time to disprove who did what and when.

And I certainly can.

But this is where you need to conduct your own research.

There are quite a few amazing assumptions regarding candidates beliefs that you have made, as in Obama is only pro-Israel in front of Jewish audiences.

Has he ever denounced the Jewish nation or faith?

We can assume the Pope is Nazi as he is from Germany.

I would rather work on some sites and continue on watching the NFL.

Right now at this very moment the most important thing to me is the Carolina Panthers shut out the Kansas Chiefs 34-0.

Here's a recent link:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...of-barack.html

[jasdon11]

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