Birld Flu Scam (I wrote this over 2 years ago!

[Adatise]

I wrote this article over two years ago and sent it off to numerous News Papers. I did it mostly just to stir up a bees nest, but it ends up I was correct. Where is this bird flu epidemic that was coming? I just found my old article on the net here (http://www.planetjh.com/issues/2005_11_16.pdf) and thought I would share it again in this forum. Big Pharma clipped us tax payers again. Bless their hearts.

‘Bird flu a scam’
Oh no, the bird flu is going to jump to
humans, claims the media! They are
doing a terrific job of scaring the public.
This is a media scam brought on by the
drug companies. The media will print virtually
anything the drug companies promulgate.
The fact of the matter is no bird
flu will jump to man. This is a blatant flagrant
falsehood! The bird flu has been
around for years. It has never jumped from
bird to man. Less that 100 people have
died from it worldwide. The Asians eat
raw poultry. They even drink raw duck
blood soup regularly. Of course they are
gonna get ill sometimes.
I know because I have been to most
Asian countries. In some countries I was
usually blessed with the head and legs of
the chicken, a delicacy for an American,
they thought. I reluctantly ate it as to not
hurt their feelings and assured them it was
delicious. I also learned to eat the bones
and all as they did. Frog leg bones are
pretty good but I never got used to eating
chicken bones. They eat every part of the
chicken, whether cooked or not in some
cases. The only part not eaten in
Cambodia are the feathers. But I digress.
The point is that the drug companies
succeeded again in deceiving the public.
The federal government earmarked $7.1
billion to counter this dreadful flu that’s
inevitably to come. Vaccines are virtually
impossible to produce before they have the
flu that jumps to humans. The vaccine
must be made out of the exact same virus
in order to partially work. The drug companies
now ask for more. No lawsuits in case
of error. I say this is “bull!” if they give the
public illnesses that they would not have
and kill us with their homemade virus. As
many people catch the flu from these vaccines
that have never been proven to work.
They should be sued!
I have never taken a flu vaccine and I
have never caught the flu. Since childhood,
anyway! See, I have a cure. It works
for all viruses. Not sometimes, but 100 percent
of the time. I get ill as much as anybody
I suppose, but whatever illness attacks
me I can cure in 20 minutes or less 100
percent of the time with a megadose of
vitamin C. Since reading about this cure in
Readers’ Digest in early 1980, I have never
been ill. Not once. But “golly,” as Gomer
Pile used to say, why should anybody, God
forbid, tell the ignorant public that if the
government spent a few thousand dollars
and gave everybody a bottle of vitamin C,
we would all have a cure for this dreadful
bird flu that is coming and every other flu
and bacteria known to man!
I will tell you why! The drug companies
would lose billions. [Doctors] would lose
billions, too. The entire medical industry
would be hurting. Think of the billions of
tax dollars the government would lose, too!
Yikes, that would really hurt our economy
if everyone had a simple cure in their
pocket as I do. The University of
Washington med professors announced
that megadoses of vitamin C taken daily
would increase man’s longevity by 20 years.
This would ruin the Social Security system
and Medicare. The government wants us
to die as soon as we retire to keep the
country out of a recession!

[JuniperPark]

Ok, Dr. Adatise, what's the maximum amount of vitamin C a human will absorb in a day before the body begins rejecting it? It's easy to find the answer.

Then tell us how your "megadose", the majority of which will be rejected will help.

Also, since every multi-vitamin contains a max dose of vitamin C, explain how people who take multi-vitamin tablets still get all the usual illnesses.

Where did you study medicine?

[Adatise]

The reason I am reluctant to answer your question publicly is because I could go to prison for practicing medicine without a license. That's why I didn't elaborate on vitamin C doses in my article. Let me consider how I can write it and not have any liability. It will take some time, but I will do it. Do you want all the facts? Read Linus Pauling's books about vitamin C as I have. Perhaps I could say Readers Digest said this and that and avoid any liabilities. Vitamin C was my favorite topic to speak and write about for years. This will be fun.

I am busy tonight but I promise to write it as I know it to be, another time. Since 1980 my family, friends, neighbors, relatives and myself have never been ill for longer than 30 minutes to an hour (using this method, if we got to the cure within an hour) and it works for everybody 100% of the time. Readers Digest was forced to remove the dosages from the article they wrote in late 1979 also. Probably Big Pharma made them do it. I got a copy of the article from them a few years back because I needed a reference but the article was mysteriously all edited. The new article in Readers Digest (1979) is so cut up that is not worth reading now. I will have to rewrite it from memory.

I can say this. The maximum amount of Vitamin C that the body can absorb in a day has to many variables to mention. How it is taken, IV, orally, or powder and what kind if C is taken. How it is spread out in dosages, and how sick you are, ETC.. I have never taken IV vitamin C but I know that Dr.s don't usually give over 50 to 75 grams at a time to cure diseases via an IV and a person really needs upwards of 150 grams to cure a disease. It also depends mostly on what illness you have and how long they have progressed. I took 100 grams in a day before to cure an infection in my stomach that I got in Asia. I took over 200 grams in Asia one day to cure Dengue fever from a mosquito bite once and never got diarrhea because the body absorbed it all to cure the illness! I cured dengue fever in about 5 hours with vitamin C! When I said sick, I meant viruses such as Flu's and colds namely but it does cure almost everything. It won't cure malaria.

Readers Digest said this.
Within the first hour of the onset of symptoms take this dose to cure it. Remember, IT MUST BE TAKEN within the first hour of any symptoms or it will not work!!! Watery eyes, sniffles, sneezes, fever, coughing, temperature, ETC.. It only lessons the effect a little if you wait longer than one hour in most cases.

Child 40 lbs to 60 pounds take 1500 to 2000 Milligrams. 1.5 to 2 grams.

Women (average weight) say about 110 lbs. Takes 2500 to 3000 milligrams.

Man (average weight) 175 to 190 takes 4000 Milligrams. 4 grams to 5 grams.

Adjust the above dosages according to your weight.

Remember all animals, except a few birds, a few monkeys, and man, manufacture their own Vitamin C. Based on body weight, they all make equal to 4 grams of C as a man would take to cure a flu or cold per day! Fact.

Bronchitis is a different story. It is bacterial, not a virus, so you need double the above doses and this was not in the Readers Digest book of 1979. This was from Linus Pauling. IV vitamin C cures virtually all disease too! Even cancer. It works much better than the medical way of cut, burn, and poison with meds. Don't take my word on any of this. Read it for your self. Get some books. A bite of food helps the body adsorb the C (protein foods being best) better but is not necessary. I have taken it to cure an illnesses on an empty stomach many times.

Multiple vitamins are controversial because many vitamins counter act other vitamins. Such as you should never take vitamin B with vitamin E. They counter one another so it is like taking nothing at all! Multiple vitamins is another long story and the doses are so small it makes them irrelevant. Minerals are just as important as vitamins. Linus Pauling said that all diseases can be traced to a lack of vitamins and or minerals.

Once you get loose bowels you are at your bodies saturation point and it cannot absorb more so back off from that point. If you are real sick you can take 100 times more vitamin C than normal and not get diarrhea. I lied above now that I think about it. Two colds I have gotten since 1980 when I could not get to vitamin C with in an hour. But they were gone in a few days after taking up to 50 to 75 grams of C a day to cure it. Read about vitamin C here. http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=400 and http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/

PS: Multiple vitamins have about 60 milligrams of vitamin C in them. Such a tiny amount does very little for a human. 60 Milligrams is just enough to prevent scurvy is all! Drug companies hate the vitamin industry because it prevents virtually all illnesses and Big Pharma loses billions to the smart people that take vitamins. They have tried for years to outlaw them but vitamins have never killed anyone. Big Pharma kills millions of people each year! You might like my article about vaccines on how they do much more harm than good! Most older doctors preach vitamins are just expensive urine as they have been taught in school. Big Pharma pays for their school of course!

Namaste

[Arrogance]

popcorn time

[500,000]

Today I got some nice 3M 95 respiratory filters with exhaust valve.
I was thinking that this winter the Swine Flu will have mutated, find humans more easily to live in.

Get yours today while there at your local stores.

[Creature]

I have never taken IV vitamin C but I know that Dr.s don't usually give over 50 to 75 grams at a time to cure diseases via an IV.

According to Prof Ian Brighthope M.D., the dose has recently been pushed up to nearly a quarter of a kilo of VitaminC via IV over 24 hours (nearly 250,000mg) for treating disease. Apparently no adverse events or side effects apart from thirst and feeling a bit woozy. Ref FoodMatters.tv DVD

[BobDiGiTaL]

I regularly drink OJ every morning, and slam it when I feel a fever or tickle in my throat.
I don't drink the whole 1/2 gallon, I just drink a glass every few hours.
I thought it may be mental, how much Vitamin C is in a glass of OJ, anyway?

[HarveyJ]

You guys clearly haven't been paying attention to international news.
Australia is in the middle of a massive epidemic of swine flu. Over 98% of influenza cases reported in Victoria have been H1N1. The only people that died are those that would have died from any other strain of influenza in the first place. Heck, I've had it already, it's nasty, but nothing to get worked up over.

What's this got to do with H5N1?
It's a variant strain, meaning that a) it can jump to humans, b)A vaccine can be created, it just won't be as effective because it's for an equivelant, not an exact, and c)provided you're healthy you shouldn't give a rats arse about it because it will be just another bad case of the flu... You're only going to die from it if you were unhealthy in the first place.
Taking extra vitamins won't help. Adatise, you know SFA about medicine, and if you are handing out medical info, you should be locked up, because the advice I've seen you give is likely to get people killed. How about doing some empirical research, or looking at reviewed empirical studies, instead of just reading quackery online. If you're going to be suggesting naturopathic pills for people to cram down their throats, you should be at least recommending Zinc compounds, like every GP I've ever had does. There's dozens of peer studies behind that at least.

Creature: No adverse side effects doesn't mean that there are net benefits either. It just means that the person doing the trial didn't die or become seriously ill.

[JuniperPark]

You're only going to die from it if you were unhealthy in the first place.
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Want to explain that to the 3 healthy people who died from it in my city in the past few weeks, including a 20 year old woman?

Oh, you can't. They're dead.

[jberryhill]

Want to explain that to the 3 healthy people who died from it in my city in the past few weeks, including a 20 year old woman?

Any variety of flu can kill anyone. It's just a numbers game. The point is that H1N1 is no more "deadly" than any other variety of influenza, which kills millions of people every year, media hype or not. You get tired, you spend a lot of time in bed, you don't realize that fluid is building up in your lungs and then, boom, you are dead from pneumonia - which is not a particularly horrific way to check out, among the various options.

I strongly agree with the proposition that people should no more take medical advice from DNForum than legal advice.

[JuniperPark]

Any variety of flu can kill anyone. It's just a numbers game. The point is that H1N1 is no more "deadly" than any other variety of influenza, which kills millions of people every year, media hype or not. You get tired, you spend a lot of time in bed, you don't realize that fluid is building up in your lungs and then, boom, you are dead from pneumonia - which is not a particularly horrific way to check out, among the various options.

I strongly agree with the proposition that people should no more take medical advice from DNForum than legal advice.

That's not what's happening with H1N1.

The 20 year old felt the first sniffle on her way home from work Sunday afternoon. Monday afternoon, she (smartly) went to the hospital and was treated immediately. Tuesday evening, while doing everything they could to save her, she died. H1N1 has been confirmed as the cause.

I've never heard of anything like that with any other flu strain. It's usually people already sick, very old, or don't go to the hospital in a timely manner. This person did everything right.

[Gerry]

The only people that died are those that would have died from any other strain of influenza in the first place.

The 5 people in Gaffney, SC shot to death by a serial killer would have been shot to death anyways so no need for anyone to have been cautious.

The 18 teens to have already died in while driving a car already this year in my hometown would have died in a car wreck anyways so no need to have increased police patrols.

The 6 people that died in a private plane accident a few miles from here would have died in a plane crash anyways so it's okay to fly in a dense fog with less than a quarter mile of visibility and there is no need to be instrument trained as a pilot .

The medication we give to sick people is not medication at all but rather sugar pills because the illness is all made up in their head.

[jberryhill]

The 20 year old felt the first sniffle on her way home from work Sunday afternoon. Monday afternoon, she (smartly) went to the hospital and was treated immediately. Tuesday evening, while doing everything they could to save her, she died. H1N1 has been confirmed as the cause.

Yes, that can happen with any flu.

It's usually people already sick, very old, or don't go to the hospital in a timely manner. This person did everything right.

The key word there is "usually". This is like being shocked that you flipped a hundred coins, and came up with 75 heads and 25 tails.

Influenza kills millions every year. That includes a given proportion of otherwise perfectly healthy people who die, and also includes a lot of elderly frail people who survive it. The "right" thing to do is only statistically "right". Among the population which contracts H1N1, there is nothing particularly odd about this virus, other than that it is a strain against which the human population as a whole is relatively immunilogically naive so, yes, there is going to be substantial morbidity, and yes it is going to include a mix of folks biased toward certain populations, but a mix of folks nonetheless.

The point is that a given case of this flu is no more or less "deadly" than a given case of any other flu. Yes, it can kill you, as can a lot of other things. You remain at higher risk of death from going up or down your own staircase than you do from H1N1.

And, while I'm on that, please, USE HANDRAILS ON STAIRS, or at least keep your hand near the handrail. And if you do use the handrail, WASH YOUR HANDS.

I worked with a guy whose OCD was so bad, he would never touch a handrail on stairs or an escalator (and look at the jagged edges on escalator steps), because he didn't want to catch something from the handrail. The thing is, his risk of dying from a fall on the stairs was greater than his risk of dying from a disease picked up from the handrail. But some people refuse to be rational.

[Adatise]

Avian and swine flu vaccines cause sterility and death

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread481357/pg1