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    Quote Originally Posted by 000 View Post
    Wealth is an excuse for bad behavior? Is it any wonder that people doubt the ethical sincerity of MMGW drum beaters?
    Bad behavior? Is that what you call flying across the country or the world to keep an important business appointment or appearing before thousands of people to promote the fight against MMGW? I think only a hardcore skeptic would use that term to describe it.
    Conference call or web meeting.
    This may work in some cases but not in all events. A conference call or web meeting can never take the place of a personal meeting, especially when one is to appear in person before a live audience.

    I shouldn't even be answering a response such as this because to do so tends to give it some merit when in reality it deserves none. Gore is a rich man with business connections all over the world. He can afford to and has the right to fly whenever and where ever he pleases. I personally am thankful the fight against MMGW has a spokesperson with such capability. You should be thankful too....your children and their children will greatly benefit from it.

    Most people are in favor of sensible clean energy, but many reject hypocritical predictions of catastrophe and dubious state sponsored solutions that would redistribute wealth and cripple economic activity. Technology marches on regardless ...
    I agree most people are in favor of sensible clean energy and thats why the skeptics have already lost their argument against establishing a clean energy economy. I'm happy you and I agree on this point. Whether you and other skeptics agree we're facing catastrophes if we don't change over to green energy is a mute point so long as we quit burning fossil fuels and of course, as you know thats what's going to happen sooner or later. It will take longer and it will cost much more because of the hardcore skeptics, I mean the ones who are in the positions to block clean green energy in every way they can. If you and others feel you must support those who stand in the way of progress then just continue doing it. But don't be surprised when you one day learn you're on the wrong side of the issue and by lending your support to the hardcore skeptics you have contributed to postponing the solution and in doing so have contributed to the higher cost of solving the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    He can afford to and has the right to fly whenever and where ever he pleases.
    The MMGW PR machine portrays the movement as egalitarian but your statements expose its true elitist core. Don't you see that every man, woman and child on earth deserves to churn as much CO₂ as Al Gore? The people most responsible for delaying progress are the condescending sycophants jamming up industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 000 View Post
    Don't you see that every man, woman and child on earth deserves to churn as much CO₂ as Al Gore? The people most responsible for delaying progress are the condescending sycophants jamming up industry.
    If every man, woman and child on earth had over 100 million dollars each, owned jet planes and had business connections all over the world I would think they would have the right to fly as much as Al Gore. I do not think they have the right to purposely pollute the world just for the sake of "deserving to churn as much co2" as you put it.

    As for the "condescending sycophants jamming up industry", I think you must be referring to the puppets and sheep who support the rich fossil fuel barons and their greedy activities that are slowly but surely destroying our world.
    Politicians and diapers need changing often...both for the same reason.

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    We live in an information age where message and messenger are often inseparable. Credibility is key, especially if a product is hard to sell. The public can smell a grifter a mile away. Was Mother Teresa a loan shark? Was Mahatma Gandhi a competitive eater? Was Carrie Nation a booze hound? No, they talked the talk and walked the walk. On the other hand, does Al Gore have a carbon footprint the size of Rhode Island? Is his philosophy 'do as I say, not as I do'? Your bold dismissal of even a shred of moral principle suggests a network riddled with corruption.

    DNF users have learned over the years that a fresh dose of global warming medicine is just a click away thanks to H2FC. You built a strong brand based on a 'sky is falling' theme sprinkled with 'tipping point' and 'thin shell atmosphere' punch lines. The H2FC brand has been comfortably familiar, but some of your recent posts have shaken your green image. Specifically, you introduced a new calculation by which a person's allowable carbon footprint is based on his or her wealth and not, as you had previously taught, based on atmospheric science (aggregate CO₂ concentration and by extension per capita limits.) What happened to the tipping point? Do the polar bears understand your dollars and cents machinations? I suggest that you create a second DNF user ID to protect the H2FC brand and better manage your disparate points of view. H2FC can carry the torch for mother earth by railing against big oil, Wall street, skeptics, etc. while FH2C can defend exemptions for the wealthy and handle other messy contradictions.
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    Al Gores speaker fees are chump change.

    The big money is made giving companies "free advice".
    ("free advice" means using his Washington connections to get HUGE government grants.)
    In return for Als "free advice", the company sells cheap shares to a venture capitol company partly owned by... guess who... Al Gore.

    Gore’s Dual Role: Advocate and Investor
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...gore.html?_r=2

    Thats how you get filthy rich while "saving the planet" in your spare time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 000 View Post
    We live in an information age where message and messenger are often inseparable. Credibility is key, especially if a product is hard to sell. The public can smell a grifter a mile away. Was Mother Teresa a loan shark? Was Mahatma Gandhi a competitive eater? Was Carrie Nation a booze hound? No, they talked the talk and walked the walk. On the other hand, does Al Gore have a carbon footprint the size of Rhode Island? Is his philosophy 'do as I say, not as I do'? Your bold dismissal of even a shred of moral principle suggests a network riddled with corruption.

    DNF users have learned over the years that a fresh dose of global warming medicine is just a click away thanks to H2FC. You built a strong brand based on a 'sky is falling' theme sprinkled with 'tipping point' and 'thin shell atmosphere' punch lines. The H2FC brand has been comfortably familiar, but some of your recent posts have shaken your green image. Specifically, you introduced a new calculation by which a person's allowable carbon footprint is based on his or her wealth and not, as you had previously taught, based on atmospheric science (aggregate CO₂ concentration and by extension per capita limits.) What happened to the tipping point? Do the polar bears understand your dollars and cents machinations? I suggest that you create a second DNF user ID to protect the H2FC brand and better manage your disparate points of view. H2FC can carry the torch for mother earth by railing against big oil, Wall street, skeptics, etc. while FH2C can defend exemptions for the wealthy and handle other messy contradictions.
    Thank you for your thoughtful assessment of my "brand" as you see it. Its just what I would expect from one who strongly opposes the notion co2 is more than just harmful to our planet, in fact huge deposits of it into our atmosphere can and will cause catastrophic changes in our world climates.

    Al Gore certainly chose the best name for his message with "An Inconvenient Truth". Inconvenient as it is I strongly believe we must all accept it and work toward solving the problem before it does reach the tipping point. Quite frankly it really doesn't matter that a few such as yourself (at this point in time anyway) reject the truth because of its "inconvenience". I have confident faith the great majority of humanity will eventually put its full support toward solving the MMGW problem before its too late to avoid disaster. As I've said before, the sooner, the better, the cheaper. Those who oppose this are only helping to add to the cost of it. Anyone with common sense can easily understand this concept but when one chooses to dwell on petty and/or misleading faults with everything from the messenger to the factual science of the problem, their common sense is often overruled.

    This problem is too big to allow that to happen.

    PS...I enjoyed reading your facetious biography.....it was very amusing, much like your assessment of my "brand".
    Politicians and diapers need changing often...both for the same reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    If every man, woman and child on earth had over 100 million dollars each, owned jet planes and had business connections all over the world I would think they would have the right to fly as much as Al Gore.
    "...we must become the change we wish to see..." - Mahatma Gandhi

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