Change of Topic: Spanking

[fab]

Should parents have the right to spank their children?

Here's a Rasmussen Report.

Thought i would change subject matter.

Post your opinions!

Eighty-five percent (85%) of American adults believe that parents should have the right to spank their children. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 5% disagree. Overall, 90% of men and 81% of women believe that parents should have the right to spank their children

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...spank_students

[meganerd]

Of course parents should have the right to reasonably discipline their children. Spanking should fall under this. But there should be a reasonable definition between spanking and child abuse according to law.

Personally, I can't spank my daughter unless I have to. However, sometimes talking about the problem or grounding just doesn't do it.

But going overboard where there are marks or trauma (physical and/or emotional), etc is not right.

[jasdon11]

Meganerd's right - a short, sharp shock is, sometimes, the last but only resort to show a child where the line in the sand is...

Some say that if you have to resort to being physical, then you're not doing it (parenthood) right; these are the same people who are either being ridden rough-shod over by their kids, or they don't have any.

I was hit by my parents on occasion, and I know I deserved it every time (and a lot of other times that they didn't know about too ) and it had nothing to do with abuse. A slap should be enough to get a child's undivided attention, so that you can impress on them your values...it shouldn't be aimed at hurting the child. Kids are happy to be shown what's right and what's not; they like knowing where that line is...

Just my 2p from a father of four happy children.

[Devil Dog]

I got spanked as a kid. Every time I got spanked, I deserved it, unfortunately for me.

[Gregcyber]

You should only spank a young one when what they are doing is worse then the beating, run in the street, drink drano or hit another.

Spanking a young one for talking after bed time, being late for dinner or not cleaning up a mess is abuse.

[nameslave]

Cut and pasted from my post in another forum:

To cut a long story short, only those who don't know how to teach a kid resort to violence. Yes, any physical contact with the intent to punish IS violence. Punishment itself is questionable, corporal punishment is abuse, no if's or but's.

This is coming from someone with a M.Ed degree and has coached high school teachers regarding classroom management and teaching methods.

[Devil Dog]

Originally Posted by nameslave

Cut and pasted from my post in another forum:



This is coming from someone with a M.Ed degree and has coached high school teachers regarding classroom management and teaching methods.

How many kids you got?

[Pink Misfit]

Hmm spanking. Depends on how you look at it. I think tapping them on the butt or hand and saying no is okay. I don't think that beating your child with anything or your hand leaving bruises or marks is alright and is a form of abuse.

[DomainsInc]

i'd rather slap their hand than spank them. spanking just seems kinda weird. i don't have kids or anything but I can't see myself spanking them.

[Acro]

I grew up in a society and at an age that parents AND teachers were allowed to physically discipline children; this seemed to work and although there were exceptions of recorded abuse, I believe that my generation grew up as the last one that held it together. Overall, kids grow nowadays to be disrespectful, rude, arrogant, demanding and overstepping of their "rank" - especially when both parents work and do not spend time with their children in order to forge a proper personality and to instill values. The proliferation of military type camps for kids is an indication of how failed the system is.

[tekz999]

There is a better way. Make a sandbag in a corner of a dark room. Make him sit if he has done something inappropriate. He will learn and think over himself. You don't even need to explain what is right and what is wrong. He will master it. Case solved.

[Devil Dog]

Originally Posted by Acro

I grew up in a society and at an age that parents AND teachers were allowed to physically discipline children; this seemed to work and although there were exceptions of recorded abuse, I believe that my generation grew up as the last one that held it together. Overall, kids grow nowadays to be disrespectful, rude, arrogant, demanding and overstepping of their "rank" - especially when both parents work and do not spend time with their children in order to forge a proper personality and to instill values. The proliferation of military type camps for kids is an indication of how failed the system is.

I lost count on how many times I got paddled in elementary school.

I can say (Tourette's flinch) that I don't seem (Tourette's flinch) to be affected by it. (Tourette's flinch)

[Onward]

Yes...I was spanked by parents and hit with rulers in school more times than I can count. I think there is a difference between 'hitting' and 'spanking' though...my parents tapped me on the butt...I was hit at school.

I have yet to spank my kids and can't see ever doing it...but I would not cast stones at those who choose to. I am really just not a disciplinarian....at least not that way.

[nameslave]

Originally Posted by Devil Dog

How many kids you got?

Does it matter if I have one or eight?

Originally Posted by Acro

believe that my generation grew up as the last one that held it together.

My dad thinks the same, so did my grandfather, and my great-grandfather.

[Adatise]

The 11th commandment.
Thou shalt not physically harm any kids, including their parents.

[DomainsInc]

Originally Posted by Adatise

indigo children

Namaste

Please. The whole indigo thing are just people in denial that their kids actually have something wrong with them.

[Adatise]

Originally Posted by DomainsInc

Please. The whole indigo thing are just people in denial that their kids actually have something wrong with them.

I beg to differ with you good Sir. Study it before you promulgate falsehoods! 100% of kids 12 years of age and under worldwide are now indigo children! The indigo aura can be seen around them with special cameras and proven scientifically.

Do you advocate giving Ritalin to all the terrible indigo kids? They are rebellious because they know they are being lied to and deceived! The government wants to stereo type them as bad children for not being a good sheeples and not excepting our governments brainwashing. The indigo's are to smart to be deceived and lied to so the Government labels them as problem children. Most children now are much smarter than their parents!


Namaste

[south]

Originally Posted by Devil Dog

I got spanked as a kid. Every time I got spanked, I deserved it, unfortunately for me.

Ditto here. And I think I turned out better for it. Reasonable discipline is a necessary part of parenting. Doing nothing will usually backfire when they hit the teen years, sometimes sooner.

Originally Posted by nameslave

Cut and pasted from my post in another forum:
This is coming from someone with a M.Ed degree and has coached high school teachers regarding classroom management and teaching methods.

Yes, our wonderful education system has done wonders with todays kids. Look at all the respect & responsibility many of today's kids have towards each other, their elders, women, society in general, and so on.

[DomainsInc]

Originally Posted by Adatise

I beg to differ with you good Sir. Study it before you promulgate falsehoods! 100% of kids 12 years of age and under worldwide are now indigo children! The indigo aura can be seen around them and proven scientifically. Do you advocate giving Ritalin to all the indigo kids too? Let me guess... You strongly believe in spanking your kids if they misbehave? I'll bet you are Catholic too. Gee, how did I know?

Why are Catholics so obsessed with control over the sheeples?

You couldn't have me more wrong. I posted above that I don't like spanking and I have absolutely no interest in organized religion. I also do not believe in medicating children and over medication in general. I just don't believe in auras or the idea that humans will evolve to have telepathy and other such things.

[nameslave]

Originally Posted by south

Yes, our wonderful education system has done wonders with todays kids. Look at all the respect & responsibility many of today's kids have towards each other, their elders, women, society in general, and so on.

Today or not, I'd say if any kid is not behaving well, that responsibility lies more on the parents.

But then again, every generation has been blaming the next for being unruly. It's funny that many simply don't see the weakness of themselves as well as the virtues of others. Reflect!

I'd say today's kids are as good and as bad as their parents, and grandparents.