Climate Denial Industry Costs Us $500 Billion a Year

[jasdon11]

I sometimes wonder why anyone with common sense could possibly believe that all the countries in the whole world are wrong in their belief of MMGW and the damage it's doing now and will continue doing as a result of climate change.

That would include your country would it? One of the worst polluting countries and right this moment is trying to wriggle out of doing too much to help the 'cause'.... oh, they're pretty good at introducing taxes but not so hot on commiting to reducing the 'problem'. Think about that.

Those who would take sides with the self-serving skeptics are doing all of us including themselves and coming generations great harm. They should be ashamed of themselves. I have absolutely no doubt they will be ashamed before this mess is over.

Don't hold your breath....

I'm glad you used the phrase 'self-serving' - who gets the most out of global-warming? Scientists who support it; tax collecting governments; I'm sure that governments around the globe are now dependent on the money they get from green taxes whilst using it for anything but.

Anone who deoesnt believe the globe is warming is being lied too. The glaciers have been retreating for years, just look at glacier before and after pictures on google. And check out exxonsecrets.org

Glaciers have been retreating ever since they were created.

[JMJ]

Anone who deoesnt believe the globe is warming is being lied too. The glaciers have been retreating for years, just look at glacier before and after pictures on google. And check out exxonsecrets.org

The main man behind this whole global warming deal is an oil billionaire, Maurice Strong. The same one who said this

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
- Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme


All of the major oil companies are in on this. Why? Because they know it's a scam and they want their cut. If these people wanted an open debate then they wouldn't be shutting out those who oppose it and actually make it an open debate. Instead they have done everything they can to shut out opposition including having their goons knock Lord Monckton out today.

[H2FC]

Revealed: the secret evidence of global warming Bush tried to hide

Photos from US spy satellites declassified by the Obama White House provide the first graphic images of how the polar ice sheets are retreating in the summer. The effects on the world's weather, environments and wildlife could be devastating
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...administration

A limit for carbon emissions: 1 trillion metric tons
To reduce risks of severe damage from climate change, humans should burn no more than 1 trillion tons of carbon in total http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gene...on_metric_tons

Over half of this amount has already been dumped into our atmosphere in recent years.

[jasdon11]

H2FC, you're pretty good at copy pasting articles, but do you ever consider the reality of the situation rather than just reacting to the hype surrounding us?

The reality is, that the people giving you your information, aren't acting in accordance with that information. They're just rasing taxes on the back of it - I assume you don't disagree with that as it's irrefutable. And right now in Denmark, those guys are wriggling hard to get out of using the money they've raised for the purpose it was (supposedly) intended for. That's reality. What's wrong with that picture?

Wonder if you'll address this point or ignore it as it doesn't fit in with what you believe...

[H2FC]

Whats wrong with that picture is what you're saying is not what the problem is at all.

The problem is in the amount of co2 being dumped into the atmosphere daily by the continued use of fossil fuels for energy. Its a very simple easily understandable problem. But the skeptics refuse to admit it or in most cases, as you've done in your post, even recognize it.

You see, its like this....just as you've done in your post, the denying skeptics use every angle they can dream up to confuse and cloud the importance of the issue simply for distraction. They know when the importance of the issue is clearly understood by the people they lose their argument.

The skeptics know no sane person would want to continue destroying their one and only earth simply for the sake of lining the pockets of the few major deniers who benefit from continuing burning fossil fuels for energy. Thats why they continue to confuse the issue and thats why others like yourself, for various personal reasons I'm sure, continue to support their lies.

When people and countries are honest they admit the truth of MMGW. Even China admits mankind is causing global warming but their problem is they are not willing to convert to green energies because of the high cost. For that matter all the industrial countries admit the truth but feel the same way China does. Unlike skeptics like yourself they do admit the truth and I give them credit for that.

You need to wise up and really make an effort to understand the problem and quit playing the little mushroom role.

[jasdon11]

It's like trying to converse with a recorded message...

I'll make this really simple for you;

Q. Have governments introduced a raft of new taxes under the guise of using that money to help combat the 'problem'?

Q. Does that money get used for the purpose?

Ask yourself why they are doing as little as they can towards solving the 'problem'. It's yet another gov protection racket.

You fudge over the reality of what's going on - either that or you're so devoted to the issue that your subconscious will not let you see some basic facts.

Linking to stuff and quoting it as being true does not get away from the true reality - that of where the cash is going; it's not going to fight your cause.

You need to wise up and really make an effort to understand the problem and quit playing the little mushroom role.

Me wise up? You're the one being used as a messenger - or are you financially invested into the 'problem'?

[H2FC]

It's like trying to converse with a recorded message...

I'll make this really simple for you;

Q. Have governments introduced a raft of new taxes under the guise of using that money to help combat the 'problem'?

OK...I'll entertain you for a bit...the answer is NO ...none I'm aware of anyway. What the Obama admin. has done here in the US is to put a stop to the hugh government subsidies Big Oil has been getting for the last decades.

Q. Does that money get used for the purpose?

the money saved by stopping the subsidies to Big Oil is now going toward developing green energies and jobs.

Ask yourself why they are doing as little as they can towards solving the 'problem'. It's yet another gov protection racket.

statements like this is why I referred to you as a mushroom.

You fudge over the reality of what's going on - either that or you're so devoted to the issue that your subconscious will not let you see some basic facts.

same as above.

Linking to stuff and quoting it as being true does not get away from the true reality - that of where the cash is going; it's not going to fight your cause.

if you only knew what you're talking about your posts would make a lot more sense.


Me wise up? You're the one being used as a messenger - or are you financially invested into the 'problem'?

As a motter of fact I'm somewhat proud to be a messenger of the truth about MMGW and how it will destroy our way of life if left unattended. The way I'm financially invested in it is by owning some alternative energy stocks and quite a few alternative energy green domains. If you're smart you'll do the same thing because its a no-brainer. The believers will be proven right and the deniers will be proven wrong....its only a matter of time.

[jasdon11]

if you only knew what you're talking about your posts would make a lot more sense.

Make that, 'if you knew what I was talking about, my posts would make a lot more sense (to you)'.

You've swallowed the whole hook, line and sinker.

I'll leave you to carry on wasting your time - mine's worth more than this.