Colin Powell endorses Obama

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by Raider

Republicans like xxxx or anyone else here as "Racist"

What I have been seeing is individuals making racists comments being called out on this.

Then again, as a registered Republican myself, I would not like to be categorized as racist. Hell, I don't even want to be categorized as anything anymore.

Personally, I now consider someone racist who is biased based on not only color but how on their appearance.

I was actually a patient in an ER a week or so ago. The rooms were divided by curtains with the nurses station outside the two divided rooms. Little privacy.

But the dumbass nursees must have thought that the curtains were sound proof.

Two nurses were outside our "room" with the curtain pulled arguing whether a guy was black or Arab. My wife and I were appalled.

My wife does work at that hospital and it will be addressed.

[dn-101]

Colin P is the last Black Republican standing.
Every normal person has defected the party of defects.

[tas38]

I think the bigger thing is Colin Powell, has seen what mccain and his supporters are doing. And he felt like he had to take a stand, his support for obama is much more about the rejection, of what mccain and his supporters are now doing.

Colin Powell had said he would not support, any of them as he did not want to get into it. But after seeing how mccain and his supporters, pushing hate and fear with out right lies. He surely felt he had no choice, but to take a stand on this stuff. Powell is a good man and was done wrong, by the bush admin and now mccain is trying the same road.

Only worst then ever before, if this keeps up it may well lead us close to a civil war. It's a real shame mccain, will be ending his political life in such away. He needs to stand up and be a men about it, and tell all his supporters out right to stop them kind of attacks. You win or lose as a men, not step to such lows when there is so many, problems going on right now.

[tldrental]

i hope that the things about Obama are not true, but we have no way of knowing right.

All this talk about Obama is speculation base on very little public fact. Really all you Obama supporters have no way of disputing the claims of Obama playing with unsavory characters in his past.

Just as the right wing thus far has not provided creditable facts to linking Obama to these guys.


It is more or less a deadlock until Obama comes clean and dispute this.

The way I see it Obama must squash this nonsense if that is what it is publicly to the United States under oath.


To me the fact that he has not leave me with heavy suspicions. To me it appears that he does not want to get caught in a lie that might haunt him later on in life.

But as you know Obama has it in the bag, so you guys might as well not even waste your time voting. Your vote wont matter since he has more or less already won by a land slide.


Powell is just sticking with his brother in skin is what it basically comes down to. I am sure he was also promised something in return, but what that is we wont know until later.

Who knows maybe Powell is mad that he wasn't picked for McCain's Vice President.

McCain and Powell would have been a winning pair.


For though of you here that don't already know from previous threads I am a registered Democrat and have been for 14 years, as well I have always voted Democrat for all election.

I am however voting for the other side this election and yes that is for John McCain.

However though I do hope that Obama wins. It will have a great impact on my domain portfolio with domains such as <removed>and <removed>as well as many other domains that all have a history theme surrounding Obama and this election.

I think my real goldmine will be the <removed>and <removed>after all the crazy things this election cycle with twist and turns and many 1st in our American history.

But again only speculation on my part.

Rich

[tas38]

Powell did in fact dismiss the BA lies mccain & supporters are claiming, there was not any real ties obama said that at the last debate. I want to know what ties mccain has to the nut case rev hagee, and rev Rod Parsley and palin has ties to even worst yet........ He sought their endrorsement, till he was found out....

( Senator John McCain on Thursday rejected the endorsements of two prominent evangelical ministers whose backing he had sought to shore up his credentials with religious conservatives. )

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/us...s/23hagee.html

Edited In:

How about Palin ties, why did mccain pick her with being so problematic.

(Sarah Palin's ties to Alaskan Independence Party are played down

The McCain campaign denies his running mate supports the party's separatist bent. )

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,6399468.story

[tldrental]

I am sorry, I dont feel that the questions have been answered. Anyone can lie and say it didn't happen.

I am sure many people believed Bill Clinton when he said he did not have sexual relations with Monica.

Later on we found out that was not true and Bill Lied under oath of the United States.
Hmm.. wonder what would happen to you or I for lying under oath in court.

Again I hope I am wrong, this democrat is voting republican. As well as I lost much respect for Powell. He can paint the picture any way he wants and sugar coat it.

It all comes down to being skin brothers, and some sort of incentive for future political gain.

Everyone has a price, what is Powell's?

[thevirtual]

Originally Posted by tldrental

i hope that the things about Obama are not true, but we have no way of knowing right.

All this talk about Obama is speculation base on very little public fact. Really all you Obama supporters have no way of disputing the claims of Obama playing with unsavory characters in his past.

Just as the right wing thus far has not provided creditable facts to linking Obama to these guys.


It is more or less a deadlock until Obama comes clean and dispute this.

The way I see it Obama must squash this nonsense if that is what it is publicly to the United States under oath.


To me the fact that he has not leave me with heavy suspicions. To me it appears that he does not want to get caught in a lie that might haunt him later on in life.

But as you know Obama has it in the bag, so you guys might as well not even waste your time voting. Your vote wont matter since he has more or less already won by a land slide.


Powell is just sticking with his brother in skin is what it basically comes down to. I am sure he was also promised something in return, but what that is we wont know until later.

Who knows maybe Powell is mad that he wasn't picked for McCain's Vice President.

McCain and Powell would have been a winning pair.


For though of you here that don't already know from previous threads I am a registered Democrat and have been for 14 years, as well I have always voted Democrat for all election.

I am however voting for the other side this election and yes that is for John McCain.

However though I do hope that Obama wins. It will have a great impact on my domain portfolio with domains such as obamahistorian.com and barackobamahistorian.com as well as many other domains that all have a history theme surrounding Obama and this election.

I think my real goldmine will be the 2008electionhistory.com and electionhistory2008.com after all the crazy things this election cycle with twist and turns and many 1st in our American history.

But again only speculation on my part.

Rich

You are buying into the McPalin scare tactics and your own ignorance.

[tldrental]

Originally Posted by thevirtual

You are buying into the McPalin scare tactics and your own ignorance.

well, I think "ignorance" would be voting for McCain purely on the basis of things that have yet to be confirmed about Obama.

So I think you misunderstand me if that is what you thought.

The decision to vote McCain came way before robo calls and other anti Obama propaganda came about.

I do not want to distract from this thread and tell you all the reasons why I am voting the way I am.

However I can understand how you coming into this thread may make that assumption premature.

I wish it was ignorance, because ignorance is bliss.

[tas38]

Obama and powell know some thing mccain and his supporters, seem not to know at all by the way they are acting. That is that history is watching, how do you think history will see mccain and his supporters ???

[tldrental]

Originally Posted by tas38

Obama and powell know some thing mccain and his supporters, seem not to know at all by the way they are acting. That is that history is watching, how do you think history will see mccain and his supporters ???

That is a good point, and the history surrounding this election is going to make me richer then I am already.

[BILLBO]

Just a very quick post as workload is now starting to tail off (thank goodness).

The General Powell endorsement is important on many fronts.

1) It shows that a senior Republican figure (General Powell) has selected to vote for the Democratic Party candidate. This will reassure maybe 0.5-1.5% of Republicans who were really wavering in whether to vote for Obama that they can cast their votes for Obama. (Although small numbers this represents a 1-3 point advantage to Obama over McCain in the election results.)
2) The endorsement of Powell when considered alongside other Republican endorsements for Obama will result in another 1-2% of Republican voters not voting for McCain, they will either vote for Obama or the third party or do a write-in on the ballot or just not vote come November 4th.
3) The Powell endorsement (when taken in conjunction with other Republican endorsements for Obama) as mentioned in previous posts will help sway independant voters towards Obama, this is of course the biggest clear numeric effect and is likely to increase Obama's lead by anything from 2-5% come election day.
4) Undoubtedly the Powell endorsement will also solidify the feeling that Obama is suitable for the position of Commander in Chief.
5) When John McCain equated the endorsement for him from Senator Leiberman with that of the endorsement of General Powell for Obama he again looked ridiculous to the electorate, the only ones who seem to agree are die hard Republicans - and they don't like McCain or Leiberman anyway but are just grasping at straws.
6) The General Powell endorsement is also important for the reasons he stated for choosing to endorse Obama which included that McCain's actions are eractic, that Palin is demonstrably not suited to be President, and that Obama has displayed the right qualities including choosing a qualified and able Vice Presidential candidate who is capable of becoming President from Day 1.

The General Powell endorsement should not be looked on in isolation and quantified directly with bringing voters to Obama, but when considered with other endorsements from other Republicans and Republican press it will be seen that his endorsement (General Powell's) will undoubtedly lead to a swing of 1-3 points in Obama's favour amoung Republicans in the polls and a 2-5 points increase in independant voters going for Obama, together therefore a swing in the polls can be expected of 3-8% to Obama. Of course the depressed voting for McCain on November 4 could increase these figures even higher.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by BILLBO

(General Powell's) will undoubtedly lead to a swing of 1-3 points in Obama's favour amoung Republicans in the polls and a 2-5 points increase in independant voters going for Obama, together therefore a swing in the polls can be expected of 3-8% to Obama. Of course the depressed voting for McCain on November 4 could increase these figures even higher.

You cant possibly be serious.

This is almost as ludacris as saying Joe Liebermans strong endorsement of McCain will swing 1-3 points his way, Where do you get this stuff from?

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by tldrental

I do not want to distract from this thread and tell you all the reasons why I am voting the way I am.

Respect to those that have at least thought this thru and rationalized it.

[BILLBO]

Raider the figures for consistancy are given as 'overall electorate', therefore assuming that the 0.5% - 1.5% of the Republican base will result in McCain figures dropping by this number and the Obama numbers growing by these numbers, hence a 1-3 point swing directly associated to the General Powell endorsement.

Lieberman does not have either the political stature or the public approval ratings that General Powell has, in actual fact it is widely believed he was and still is going to join the Republican Party after this election. If I remember correctly his Senate seat is next up for election in 2010 (it may be 2012), but it is extremely doubtful he will be re-elected.

We will just have to wait and see what happens on November 4, I am sure one of us will be proved right and the other wrong.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by BILLBO

I am sure one of us will be proved right and the other wrong.

Are you sure about that statement?

It is actually a testament to Bush's failed global policies and his closed administration that so many "foreigners" are following this election.

Regardless of the outcome, the next President must make mending relationships and foreign policy a top priority to regain the respect and support lost since 2000.

Failure to do so will further isolate this country. We have had an isolated administration far separating itself from its own nation and citizens.

We teeter on the verge of bankruptcy funding a war under the guise of "protecting our nation" yet our own borders, ports, and airports are not secure.

Whoever wins, that administration needs to be a government not by the people but for the people.

[biggedon]

i hope some of you guys aren't using the same logic to find domain names as you do when trying to defend mccainism.


it's so sad to read the "deep rooted" bias that some here have expressed.

all the years powell served for the bush's.

no one , not a soul doubted his experience, rationale, intelligence or ability.

now that he has endorsed obama...he's a racist or doing it only because he is black


to discard the weight of his reasons for doing this simply based on race is showing profound ignorance to the highest degree.

so sad....

imo

[Area52]

Looks like somebody straightened this brother out.

Powell is 71 yrs old (McCain's age). According to some McCain bashers here, that makes Powell too old to have a sane, coherent opinion.

A racial decision? If it looks and smells like it, it probably is.

[BILLBO]

Doc, the world is awaiting the outcome of this election, as I am sure you know.

I will say though that isn't it strange that people like Rush Limbaugh rather than debate the cogent points and analysis that General Powell stated as his reasons for endorsing Obama would not argue with reasoned debate but instead pull out the 'race card'?

Anyway the latest polls show Obama up by 7 in North Carolina, up by 9 in Ohio, and up by 6 and 10 in Virginia, oh yes a poll does show McCain up by 1 in Missouri (but I reckon that will soon change to Obama as well).

[seanboy]

Originally Posted by biggedon

to discard the weight of his reasons for doing this simply based on race is showing profound ignorance to the highest degree.

not to mention profound stupidity:

Originally Posted by Area52

A racial decision? If it looks and smells like it, it probably is.

Originally Posted by tldrental

Powell is just sticking with his brother in skin is what it basically comes down to.

Case in point..

[tas38]

Powell was mccain's good friend, and even give him as much money as he legally could as well. He is not throwing out the republican party view at all, but a rejection of mccain and his supporters. As they turn neg all the way now, and mccain's pick of palin as VP being a heart beat away, from taking over the most powerful seat in the world.

Obama must not leave mccain's charges unanswered, right now mccain been getting lots of news coverage. This needs to be countered by obama, he needs more news coverage and hitting back more. But not start anything, just hit back by countering the lies and hold his ground. He can not leave anything to chance, or let people think mccain could be right, because he and his supporters are not countering the lies.