Colin Powell endorses Obama

[randomo]

Originally Posted by BILLBO

I will say though that isn't it strange that people like Rush Limbaugh rather than debate the cogent points and analysis that General Powell stated as his reasons for endorsing Obama would not argue with reasoned debate but instead pull out the 'race card'?

Talk-radio celebrities like Rush are entertainers. Whatever complaints he makes about Obama, he could ridicule McCain just as strongly and easily, if he so chose. I put no stock in what people like him say.

[H2FC]

I'm sure there are many other republicans who will help safeguard and protect their country by secretly voting for Obama behind the curtain. The thought of Sarah Palin being only a heartbeat away from being president scares the hell out of many republicans as well as many democrats. The only difference between those republicans and Colin Powell is courage and honesty....he has it and they don't.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by BILLBO

Anyway the latest polls show Obama up by 7 in North Carolina, up by 9 in Ohio, and up by 6 and 10 in Virginia

North Carolina began early voting last week. Only at specified locations. I could have went to the county Board of Elections but there was a four hour wait in line.

There will be one at 5 miles from my house beginning next Monday.

I am listening to some odd issues being presented by news correspondents. Both deal with race.

Supposedly it depends on who approaches you. If a black person approaches you, you are likely to say yes you are voting for Obama. However, if it is a white person, many are likely to say no way am I voting for Obama.

Now, I am in the south - virtually the heart of Dixie. Although Dixie has never really been defined. So so sentiment is to be expected.

The not so surprising issue I keep hearing over and over in the polls is - when asked in private polls, many of those same whites that publicly say no to Obama say YES in private polls. The stigma of the south still comes out in many.

This could be get interesting. There is a very strong possibility that Virginia will go to the Democratic side for the first time in 44 years.

Many analysts believe that it almost doesn't matter who is running for the Dems as the general public is simply fed up with the GOP.

And right now the south has come a haven for political pundits and analysts to study because of all the possible scenarios setting up.

The Joe Sixpack, Hockey Mom and Joe the Plumber cheerleader routine is simply not working.

I could go on and on of all the articles and news stories and polls and talk shows I have listened to but it would be a waste on this forum as everyone here seems to have made up their mind no matter what.

The bottom line is nothing is a given and as you say we will know one way or the other on November 4th.

I am surprised that this thread has gone on for 4 pages. My goal was simply to inform what I perceived as noteworthy news.

I am, however, disappointed that it has evolved at times into a racial bigotry and issue at times.

[Fearless]

Why did he wait so long? Answer: Hedging his bets on who would likely be able to give him a job.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by Fearless

Why did he wait so long? Answer: Hedging his bets on who would likely be able to give him a job.

Not sure who/what your referring to here.

If you mean McCain wait so long to get desperate with the crap that happened when someone was born or who he met when someone was eight I would say yes...I think McCain is hoping someone would give him a job.

Or does he keep his seat in the senate? Not sure.

[Poker]

Originally Posted by Fearless

Why did he wait so long?

waiting so long is just further proof that the now clearly racist assclown Lush Windbag should be discredited and abandoned by anyone with a conscience. If it were truly about race Powell would not have waited so long, after all Obama didn't just turn black

[Doc Com]

Powell was visited several times by both candidates.

Yes, they were seeking his endorsement. That is how much both candidates value his opinion, his views, and his endorsement.

If folks would just take the time to listen to the link I provided in the initial post, it may answer many questions.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by H2FC

I'm sure there are many other republicans who will help safeguard and protect their country by secretly voting for Obama behind the curtain.

If voters were more interested in safeguarding and protecting this Country, Obama would DOWN in the polls, NOT up...
Use your head for once

You would have to be a complete ignoramous to think that Obama would actually fight the War on Terror and protect America from further attacks,

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

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Obama promises so much and yet nobody talks about where the money is going to come from, Taxing the Rich is not enough and were in debt up to our ears, So where are we going get it? AH! Complete pullout of Iraq, scaling back in Afganistan, Deep cuts in Defense spending and cuts in Homeland Security.... Leaving America vulnerable to another attack.

[thevirtual]

Originally Posted by Raider

If voters were more interested in safeguarding and protecting this Country, Obama would DOWN in the polls, NOT up...
Use your head for once

You would have to be a complete ignoramous to think that Obama would actually fight the War on Terror and protect America from further attacks,

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

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Obama promises so much and yet nobody talks about where the money is going to come from, Taxing the Rich is not enough and were in debt up to our ears, So where are we going get it? AH! Complete pullout of Iraq, scaling back in Afganistan, Deep cuts in Defense spending and cuts in Homeland Security.... Leaving America vulnerable to another attack.

The best way to safeguard and protect this Country: stop encouraging more wars. This War on Terror was never a war on ACTUAL terrorists but a war for money and power and a losing battle for the American people.

[tas38]

(>>>>>>> You would have to be a complete ignoramous to think that Obama would actually fight the War on Terror and protect America from further attacks, >>>>>>>)

Well the bush admin turn us over to the terrorists, biggest funding and support source, and drove our markets into the ground. And spent trillions warring and their world wide terrorist witch hunt, with out even getting the one person that really master minded 9/11.

Mccain voted with bush and turned us over to big oil terrorist country's, and did more to help bring are markets down. Then anything the terrorist could have done, sky rocketing oil prices. Only fund and support terrorist, and mccain backed all that bush has done to hurt us.

If you want to stop terrorist, you cut their funding and support source big oil. Then you get a few terrorist highest leaders to turn, use that info to prove they turned on them. Then let them take them self's out, then after they run them self's into the ground. You go help fund and support, the good people that want to stop them from their own country's.

That raider is how you stop terrorist, that is how you wipe them out, and that is how you keep them from coming back. Some one needed to tell bush and mccain, that you can not beat them. That you must get them to wipe them self's out, and the people around them to keep them, from coming back again moving ahead.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by Raider

You would have to be a complete ignoramous to think that Obama would actually fight the War on Terror and protect America from further attacks,

I can honestly understand where you are coming from.

But my concern is this; we are fighting a war in Iraq that was unwarranted.

It has now taken us longer to be in Iraq than our entire commitment in World War II.

We have been in Iraq longer than it took us to bring down Hitler and Hirohito, essentially one world war on two different fronts.

We are spending $10 billion a day in Iraq to supposedly fight the war on terrorism.

Meanwhile, here in this country, that war on terrorism in Iraq has done absolutely nothing to secure a 2700 mile border to the south, airports are still vulnerable to lax screeners and lax security (reported last week that thousands of passes across the nation's airports giving access to secure areas are unaccounted for), and security at our nation's seaports are a joke if they exist at all.

Seems to me to fight the war on terrorism, we would put more money into starting here at home than in a country where it has now been repeatedly proven to not have WMD's and was not involved with 9-11, had no active nuclear weapons program, and was not an immediate or even a short range threat to this country.

That $10 billion a day could have gone much further at home than the joke of a Virtual Fence along the Mexican Border, increased security checkpoints along the Canadian border where it has been proven that extremists and terrorists have entered into this country, better equipped/train/secure our nations airports, and done much more to secure our seaports.

I am gravely concerned that these goals are not being met here at home and we lost complete sight of our real objective and target. In the meantime, the Taliban have become much stronger, better equipped, and much more brazen in their attacks in Afghanistan.

So how much money and how many years do you suggest that we continue to waste on a war that can not be won let alone fought on foreign soil while this nation is just as vulnerable to a terrorist attack as we saw on 9-11?

[Raider]

Originally Posted by thevirtual

The best way to safeguard and protect this Country: stop encouraging more wars.

That's a load of crap and you know it.... Were weren't encouraging any Wars in the Middle East during the Clinton years, but yet we endured 8 years of terrorist attacks against the USA during his entire term.

After 911, we learned what doing NOTHING does.

[Poker]

Originally Posted by Raider

If voters were more interested in safeguarding and protecting this Country, Obama would DOWN in the polls, NOT up...
Use your head for once

You would have to be a complete ignoramous to think that Obama would actually fight the War on Terror and protect America from further attacks,

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

hmm...tough decision...should I trust the endorsement of Obama by Colin Powell or some random chic on a domain forum?

You do have a point though, don't you know. Why should we put any trust in Powell's interest in and ability to protect our Country, after all he's only been doing it for 50 years.

So lemme see, a retired US Army General, former Secretary of State, National Security Advisor and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during an actual War in the Gulf or some girl prone to parroting the pure garbage right wing nut jobs shove into her head every day on radio and tv...gosh darn it, you really have put us in a pickle don't you know...did i mention i come from alaska? (wink)...

[thevirtual]

Originally Posted by Raider

That's a load of crap and you know it.... Were weren't encouraging any Wars in the Middle East during the Clinton years, but yet we endured 8 years of terrorist attacks against the USA during his entire term.

Are you saying we should be more war hungry in order to defeat "terror"?

Also what exactly is 8 years of terrorist attacks?

After 911, we learned what doing NOTHING does.

Actually, I don't think you learned anything from 9/11, except for how to use it as a political tool.

[princehull]

I would love to see Powell run for president. I don't care if he ran as a republican or democrat....he automatically has my vote. I hd the chance to meet him while in the Air Force and I was very impressed...more than I was before meeting him.

[Acro]

Originally Posted by thevirtual

Actually, I don't think you learned anything from 9/11, except for how to use it as a political tool.

Post of the day.

[Doc Com]

Here's the point regarding Clinton and terroism...

Most attacks against Americans did not happen on US soil. But that does not mean that security here in the states was totally lax nor was the Clinton administration. Good intel pinpointed Osama bin Ladin's location but a cruise rocket missle missed him.

Several attempts were made by terrorists to enter into the US in the fall of 1999 from the Canadian border in attempts of blowing up major cities and sites during the Millenium New Year's Eve celebration. Known targets were Seattle and Times Square.

The link I want to direct you to contains some disturbing images and rhetoric.

The site is in English. It outlines all the known Islamic extremist attacks. It starts in 1968 and runs through 2006. You will need to cllick here and scroll down to the bottom of the page to see the list.

From 9/11/01 to 11/10/04 there have been 1705 major Islamic terrorist attacks involving loss of life.

So this so called War on Terrorism is not working, has not been effective, and has incited others to rise against not only the US but Europeans and all known Christian and Jewish interests.

[princehull]

Why does it all have to be about Islam???? It is the Muslim EXTREMISTS who initiate these attacks. Labeling Islam as a whole is wrong. It is like labeling the all of the white society by the action ok the kkk.

[tas38]

(>>>>>> Why does it all have to be about Islam???? It is the Muslim EXTREMISTS who initiate these attacks. Labeling Islam as a whole is wrong. >>>>>>)

You are right on the money, and it's worst yet because the only way the muslim extremists will be stopped all the way. Is when the good people they are labeling, fight the extremists at home to insure, that they can not rise again to start all over. We need these people helps, not label them when they dislike the extremists as much as we do. But are unable to fight them by them self's, we need to help them fight the real extremists.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by princehull

Why does it all have to be about Islam???? It is the Muslim EXTREMISTS who initiate these attacks. Labeling Islam as a whole is wrong. It is like labeling the all of the white society by the action ok the kkk.

It is much more complicated than that. But the site list attacks claimed by (and confirmed) by Islamic extremists. That is why.

I could go on in listing the Red Brigade, Black September Group, and Bader Meinhof group that primarily operated in Europe against American interests.

But the site's point is stated. Not all muslims are extremists.

Besides, the KKK is anti-black, anti-jewish, anti-catholic, and anti-immigrant.