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absolutely disgusting...
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By the Corporations, for the Corporations, of the Corporations...
It does not matter what side you stand with or where your beliefs lay, but yesterday's decision to not limit corporate spending for political candidates is an absolute shock.
Imagine a corporate lobbyist coming into a candidates office and saying,
"we will give you $10million to vote yes on this upcoming bill. If you vote no, we will give the $10million to your opponent".
Now we can finally say America is for sale, to the highest bidder.
While there are still limits on what individuals can contribute, there are NO limits on what corporations can contribute to a candidate.
You will start seeing more anti-this and anti-that adds than ever before because corporations will be funding them and sponsoring them. Finding the truth to the matter will be harder and harder as perception vs. reality will be blurred into one.
Personally, I think this is dangerous territory american politics is about to enter into. Some may say that politicians are already puppets of corporations.
This will truly be "bought votes" and "bought candidates".
And any registered voter, regardless of your party affiliation, should be concerned about this.
One the other hand, it may be a great time and a lucrative time to consider getting into politics.
Last edited by Gerry; 01-23-2010 at 12:17 PM.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
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absolutely disgusting...
Sunshine laws are really the only defense to this type of stuff. If we can get instant info on the originating source of all contributions, political ads, etc. then free speech is really free.
Pres. Obama raised more then any candidate in history, has the majority of the free press on his side, a majority in the House and Senate and is still failing.
People tend to pay attention when times are bad.
As they say, the devil is in the details...who, what, when and IF these corporations will be required to disclose.Originally Posted by tres
A 527 or 501(c)(3) can easily be set up with millions to spend and totally hidden from view (at the time) as to who is funding the attack ads.
So not only can a corporation openly support a measure or candidate, they will be able to do it covertly hidden in these 527's.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
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Disagree with it all you want to, yesterday's ruling was a victory for Free Speech.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
How so? Politics are perverted enough. Now it will just be a game of whoever has the biggest wallet, wins.Disagree with it all you want to, yesterday's ruling was a victory for Free Speech.
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Last edited by 500,000; 01-11-2011 at 06:26 PM.
WTF?
Nothing to do with free speech.
Everything to do with free money.
Who on earth is twisting this into a victory for free speech?
Those that think this is about free speech are casting a dark shadow on what this really means.
Yes, a corporation can be part of free speech.
But since when does that one entity decidedly speak for ALL of its members that make up that corporation?
Are the free speech advocates saying anything about the ability of the members within the corporation to freely speak that they are against supporting the corporations' efforts?
If you work to make profit for a company who then takes proceeds of those profits made to sway votes that you, as an employee, do not agree with - are you telling me that this is a free speech issue?
Since when does a corporation, as an individual entity, have the rights of a living human being. Those rights being able to cast a ballot.
Suddenly we have given life to non-living thing?
Jesus, I need to get my LLC and S corp up to par. Looks like I can cast three votes - one for me, one for the LLC, and one for the S Corp.
My god, who has been watching Fox NEWS again!
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
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A few of the constitutional lawyers on MSNBC disagree with you also. Some laws will have to be change but instant transparancy will benefit both parties. Unions can now spend as much as they want also. I'll spend a lot more time avoiding TV.
Like the unions? Where one union alone gave Obama $60.7 Million dollars? that kind of perversion?
And what about the Media?, aren't they corporations? Dont they influence campaigns?
And where in the First ammedment does it say corporations are not protected?.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
as an employee your job is to work as a ceo it is my job to do what is best for the company so you have a job tomorrow. Disagree all you want with it but it is free speech. I now have the right to run ads that may stop something that is going to hurt my business. What is funny is the dems are the business bashers and are the ones scared to death of this. T hey are sure about muslims wearing shirts in school showing airplanes striking the WTC though and consider that free speech
Last edited by paidvisit.com; 01-22-2010 at 08:16 PM.
Well, this will come as a surprise to many of you, I am sure.
Unions can now take your dues and pension funds and sponsor TV ads, whether you agree to or not.
The State of California can now take state tax payer money and buy ads on TV supporting Immigration amnesty.
The company you work for can now make a sizable chunk of your donations to buy a candidate to vote for Gay Marriage.
Why?
Because they are corporations.
We gave 80billion to AIG. AIG lost 60% of my wife's and my pension. AIG gave themselves bonuses. We gave AIG more money.
Now AIG can take the money we, the taxpayers, gave them and buy ads against any candidate who supports bank reform.
Praise god, you say. Praise god for free speech and all it has bought us.
See, it does not matter if you are GOP or DEM.
About the asinine comment regarding free speech and 9-11.
Consider this -
Corporation A is a shell company that raises money and donates to a radical organization in another country. Hands off. They did nothing wrong. Free speech.
Corporation B is another shell company for drug running and gun running. The donate tons of cash to multiple candidates to relax gun regulations and decriminalizing marijuana. Don't like it? Too bad. Free Speech.
Corporation C is a drug maker that wants to extend the copyright and patent to extend beyond the current 17 years to 25. They too give up billions of dollars to buy candidates. Result is the measure passes and now it take 8 years longer than present for a drug to become generic.
So, frankly...if you don't like something from this point forward, too bad. That goes for everyone.
The issue itself will no longer be the issue.
It matters who has the deepest pockets.
Your vote no longer counts.
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I am sure at some point this decision will be re-visited.
Granting a right to an inanimate object that is granted to a person makes no sense what so ever.
How can you limit a person in how much they contribute but impose no limits on a corporation?
Seems to me you have done a marvelous job at granting rights to that inanimate object and placing restrictions on a living, human being.
Seriously, one would have to ask why the limitations only apply to people (persons) but not corporations?
That is the bizarre constitutionality of this decision.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
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Exactly.... The fact that Liberals and Democrats are so upset about this, shows what a good decision this is
And when a Liberal or Dumbocrat tellls you their for Free Speech and protecting the First Ammendment, you can cite their reaction to this ruling that clearly shows otherwise.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
I find it absolutely ridiculous that a few of you want to make this a GOP and Dem issue.
Then again, knowing the mindset of many then I should not be surprised at all at some of you want to turn this into such an issue.
To think that this is not going to adversely affect each person at some point is foolish.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
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Great I'm glad somebody understands what its all about.Disagree with it all you want to, yesterday's ruling was a victory for Free Speech.
Are we for corporations or for people?
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That's why I changed by the people, for the people, of the people.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
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I think for some people, the obvious, whatever they think their 'party' is supporting, without knowing any of the details about the situation.
Mindless following imho...
The only reason raider thinks its a good think is because she knows the GOP will basically do anything to get huge donations. We'll give you x amount if you get this bill through for us..hmm sounds great. Look at the horrid bill passed for MBMA by Bush. That screwed a lot of people. If it benefited the dems she would have a very different view but since the republicans are known for letting big business run wild, its assumed that they are for sale on a whole new level.
That's rich.. You could say the exact same thing ofalmostevery leader in congress, as well as Pres Obama.
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