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    Crony Capitalism - Where's my Health Care Waiver?

    Obama and the dumbocrats spent the great majority of the first 2 years ramming Nationalized Health Care down our throats, claiming that if every tax payer does not participate, the program wont work.

    Once passed, it didn't take long for Obama and the Dumbocrats to grant "waivers" to their closest allies, Unions and supporters, many of which donate heavily to their campaigns...

    And let's not forget the very congress and it's staffers who wrote the Health Care legislation are the same ones who chose to EXEMPT themselves from it.

    This double standard could be one of the reasons why 75% want the bill changed and 58% want it repealed, according to Rasmussen.


    Pawlenty: Pelosi's health-care waivers akin to 'crony capitalism'


    Republican presidential candidates spoke out against waivers granted to some of the biggest cheerleaders for the health care, with former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty calling Nancy Pelosi's waivers 'crony capitalism.'
    In April, the Obama administration issued waivers to businesses that had expressed a need to be exempt from the mandates required in the federal health care reform legislation, known as the Affordable Care Act.
    20 percent of the waivers granted nationally were for businesses residing in Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi's district.

    By many regards, Pelosi was the public face on the aggressive push to pass the government-sponsored health care bill, and the revelation that her constituents were among the first to seek exemption from the legislation and that Pelosi was granted such a generous waiver allotment has caused a stir among Republicans.

    Republican presidential candidate and former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty joined a chorus of Conservative criticism, saying of the waivers that it is "crony capitalism."

    Speaking with Fox News' Sean Hannity, Pawlenty said the mandate waivers are "another example of really crony politics or crony capitalism, if you've got the right connections, the right lobbyists, the right interest group, you get your special deal, and the rest of us get our wallet out, and that's in the tax code, it's in earmarking, and now you see it in ObamaCare," according to a column in The New American.

    "On May 13, the Obama administration announced the approval of 204 new waivers from compliance with the PPACA," The National Review Online notes in its analysis of the matter. "That brings to 1,372 the number of waivers HHS has granted in the 14 months since the law’s passage. The waivers are temporary, designed to prevent wholesale bankruptcies of insurance and other companies before most of the law’s provisions take full effect in 2014. “We are committed to making the waiver process transparent to the public,” an HHS spokesman offered reassuringly. But while the identities of those who have received waivers have been disclosed, the administration has so far declined to reveal the names of those whose waiver requests were denied. Nor has HHS explained its criteria."

    However, the waivers in Pelosi's district have been explained as a product of the health care administrator Flex Plan Services and not the result of Nancy Pelosi's influence.

    But Pawlenty attributes the waivers to the difficulties imposed by the health care law's mandates.

    "I don't blame people for trying to get out from underneath it — that it is an awful law," Pawlenty said. "But when you have that many needs for exemptions, it tells you that the law — it is a warning sign that the law is broken and doesn't work."

    Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/articl...#ixzz1MyHC9D6a



    Over Half of All Obamacare Waivers Given to Union Members
    The Weekly Standard - Mark Hemingway
    May 16, 2011

    In what is fast becoming a weekly event, the Obama administration granted 200 more companies waivers from the Democrats' sweeping health care law in the Friday night news dump. That brings the number of companies receiving waivers to 1,372. (You can get a full list of the companies exempted here.)

    Not surprisingly, it helps to be a Democratic ally when seeking a waiver. The Republican Policy Committee reports that over half of the workers that have been exempted so far belong to unions:

    The plans newly approved for waivers cover more than 160,000 people, bringing to nearly 3.1 million the number of individuals in plans exempted from the health law’s requirements. Of the participants receiving waivers, more than half – over 1.55 million – are in union plans, raising questions of why such a disproportionate share of union members are receiving waivers from the law’s requirements. The percentage of participants receiving waivers that come from unions also continues to rise – the number was 48% in April, and 45% in March.

    Unions already received a generous concession in the health care bill. Their generous "cadilac" insurance plans were exempted from being taxed until 2018, adding about $120 billion to the bill’s cost over ten years. For more on how the administration has helped unions, see my story in THE WEEKLY STANDARD from a few weeks ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CureCancer View Post
    Really? who cares!!! All this finger pointing at the end does not result in healing your soul. Politics is for the fools who run for office, blind sided by greed, lies and corruption.
    In 2014 when Health Care is implemented and millions of taxpayers across the USA are forced to purchase health care insurance they cant afford, or face penalties, your going to have a lot of people caring. Americans should be outraged over this.


    Quote Originally Posted by CureCancer View Post
    The world needs more reminders on people suffering in 3rd world countries that go nights, days with out a loaf of bread.
    I've been there and I couldn't agree with you more.
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    I thought we were socialists.

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    Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom

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    Look like somebody needs to be schooled on the meaning of "Crony Capitalism";


    "Crony capitalism" or "crapitalism" is a pejorative term describing a capitalist economy in which success in business depends on an extremely close relationship between the businessman and the state institutions of politics and government, rather than by the espoused "equitable" concepts of the free market, open competition, and economic liberalism. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, and so forth.

    Crony capitalism arises when political cronyism spills over into the world of business, and the relationships between powerful businessmen and powerful politicians form a kind of aristocratic social hierarchy, influenced by self-serving friendships and family ties, to the extent that it corrupts public-serving economic and political ideals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    Look like somebody needs to be schooled on the meaning of "Crony Capitalism";


    "Crony capitalism" or "crapitalism" is a pejorative term describing a capitalist economy in which success in business depends on an extremely close relationship between the businessman and the state institutions of politics and government, rather than by the espoused "equitable" concepts of the free market, open competition, and economic liberalism. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, and so forth.

    Crony capitalism arises when political cronyism spills over into the world of business, and the relationships between powerful businessmen and powerful politicians form a kind of aristocratic social hierarchy, influenced by self-serving friendships and family ties, to the extent that it corrupts public-serving economic and political ideals.
    A perfect description of the republican party and especially how it applies to the oil energy industry in this country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    A perfect description of the republican party and especially how it applies to the oil energy industry in this country!
    Socialism, capitalism, fascism...pick on.

    I am far from needing someone to explain to me crony or cronyism...my point was pick one, stick with it...are we capitalists? Or is it socialists?

    Why not crony socialists? Seemed to have been a shitpile of members here claiming we were heading to socialism.

    I do see, however, that she can not even think for herself and combine the two words. Crony Socialists works just as well as Crony Capitalists.

    The emphasis obviously is on crony and cronyism. But, the inability to think for herself again shows itself. She needs to see it said or mentioned by someone else so she can post it here. The obvious is just not so obvious to some.

    Ergo, crony capitalists goes totally against all the other regurgitated socialists claims made in thread after thread on this forum.

    So, again I ask...capitalists or socialist? How about facsism?

    The day I need schooling from Mother Eva of Domaindom is the day I pour lighter fluid on my balls and set them on fire and try to put the fire out with an ice pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    The day I need schooling from Mother Eva of Domaindom is the day I pour lighter fluid on my balls and set them on fire and try to put the fire out with an ice pick. Share
    WOW!!....what an imagination you have there Doc......that hurts me to even think about it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    WOW!!....what an imagination you have there Doc......that hurts me to even think about it!!
    Having to get "schooled" by it would be poisoning the water, the air, the food, the very ground I walk on.

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    Sometimes I think Doc just acts stupid and ignorant for the purpose of flaming.

    Wasn't it you who was slapped down a couple days ago for doing the very thing your doing here? Ah, here it is;


    Quote Originally Posted by Area52 View Post
    I have the right to question the president or anyone else in the government without having my loyalty questioned. That right is guaranteed by the Constitution, the very document that doc com seems to take so lightly and the one he apparently thinks that Obama does not need to abide by. By God's grace, I won't be silenced by this self-centered prick doc com or any others. That's exactly what he is attempting to do here. Silence any dessent against this administration. His ultimate insult however, is questioning my loyalty, the swine. You are the very lowest of the low for doing that, you MF.

    Speaking of that loose cannon, it looks like dnf's very own resident terrorist, doc com, has had a field day at my expense this past week. Hey, maybe he'll get lucky and make the president's top ten hit list.

    As many of you already know, he is an unapologetic distorter of the truth and a chief instigator of instability on this forum. He operates often by hijacking threads, making false, outlandish and provocative accusations and constantly hurling out self-serving, off-topic, off-color and harrassing comments. Without provocation, he has been openly rude, crude in his speech and quite brutish in dealing with many on this forum who simply don't share his "superior" views. He has carried that most undesirable trait to the ultimate extreme in this thread.

    I have asked that the slanderous comments he has posted about me be removed. I don't deserve those comments. They are completely false. If he were a standup man he would have apologized and removed the slanderous insinuations as I had asked. Did he do so? No. Now I have to defend myself because he got mad and wanted payback.

    In this very thread, he desperately attempts to attain sympathy from other like-minded members by making slanderous accusations. He went off on an outragous tirade when I commented that he is terrible with humans. That wasn't a dig. That was a honest observation of the way he treats many people on this forum. He's even gone so far as claiming to know what I'm thinking in this thread. The guy has posted at DNF more than once that the political thread should be closed, yet he still posts to this day as often as anyone in that thread. Duh! All this and the guy still roams this forum, undetered.

    He could have replied, in a civlized manner to the topic, whether Obama is operating within the law on this issue, but being the unstable person that he seems to be, and his agenda mentioned before, he chose, without provocation, to initally make a snide remark and then proceed to attack me personally, committing slander with intent to harm. In fact he continues to attack me, personally, committing slander with intent to harm.

    Sure, I know he doesn't seem to care. More the reason for someone to put a dam stop to it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    The day I need schooling from Mother Eva of Domaindom is the day I pour lighter fluid on my balls and set them on fire and try to put the fire out with an ice pick.

    That would be a welcome change from pouring Purina dog chow on your nuts and having your dogs go at it.
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    This thread. These posts. These quotes. All so very pathetic and sad.

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